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My Strangest Rant For This Month, and Question

Posted by $ Abaco 9 months, 3 weeks ago to Culture
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Went into town to the grocery store to pick up a few items. One item was a 6-pack of beer. I know the ladies who work the registers there. All really nice people. We usually get caught up with each other when I come through (gotta love a smaller town). This time the lady asked to see my ID for the beer. I had left it in the truck. I said, "Look at me. I'm near 60." One of the other ladies said they have to ask now due to some ordinance and that if they don't it's a $2000 fine....and stores have been getting fined. Then it hit me. Why do local governments do something so farcical? I said, "That's like fining me $2000 if I don't put my shoes on in the preferred order." I understand that some local ordinances require that everybody get carded for booze even if they're clearly approaching 100 years old. What say you? Is this from the ole, "If we pass enough laws everybody eventually becomes a criminal."? I can't think of any other reason.

To add to my experience...There was an old man in line behind me. He looked terribly feeble - like Joe. When he spoke to me about our conversation the slobber just poured out of his mouth. When I walked out of the store with my daughter (and my beer) the thought hit me, "We're f&%ked." So often I feel like I'm the only guy in the room asking the obvious questions. 85% of people just blindly do as they're told...like they've given up, or have just shut down the critical part of their brain to save energy. What can be done to incentivize thinking anymore?...


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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    I have no problem with being carded or refused service for being intoxicated, nor businesses being fined for contributing to illegal activities, just to make a buck.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    As for where paper comes from, though years back I can still recall Rush Limbaugh saying on my radio that "trees are a renewable resource."
    Crops are for growing.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    You are correct....but hasn't it always been like that? Not saying that it is right but those in power or influential, in the old days nobility, whatever, have always gotten away with what ever they want and we have to toe the line.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess it's hard to cover all bases at the same time. The rules (laws) set out by our politicians are to protect (harass) businesses by insuring nothing gets between the cracks. Like murder, in order to strop it, put a 10 day wait on buying a gun. If an FFL cheats, shut his business down and perhaps throw him in jail. But if Hunter lies on his paperwork, have the FBI protect him, like they are protecting Alex Baldwin, by destroying the evidence or some other means. It's, like everything else it's all controlled by power.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    That's not all it checking, that's for sure. It reminds me of Google Timeline, it knows when and where your device is day and night, and how it got there. Do not take it with you if you're planning on doing something against the rules. Obey the rules strictly if you've had any recent surgery, you might have gotten and unknown implant. Think about it, your device could be used to give you a speeding ticket. Telling the judge that you threw it probably wouldn't work either. I still have no cellphone, and it's wonderful, no robocalls.
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  • Posted by term2 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    maybe the really intelligent and rational people don't go to that kind of store and buy beer...

    I have to say that lately, people don't exist for me when I am out and about. I don't look at them, and certainly don't talk to them. I would prefer ordering food by kiosk or on my phone to avoid contact with the vapid people that take orders.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe someone should take on a collaborative writing from the horror stories on Galt's Gulch forum. Just a thought.
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  • Posted by Sealofapproval 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    It is wise to pick your battles. They are subject to the fine if they don't ask. I would not grief them about it.
    If you want to hit the state where it hurts think like a rational information warrior.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    A paper bag (or plastic) here in Washington State will cost you an extra $0.07, Governor Inslee's edict. He's not running for reelection this time, so be cautious, I think he might make a bid for DC. God save us.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm sure everyone here noticed that those are all government mandated rules. What's next?
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  • Posted by NealS 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Speaking of rants, my response. It's an exercise of government power, the politicians allow it to happen. I just had a new purchase sent to my local FFL. I went to do the paperwork on Tuesday, the 9th. I was informed I could pick it up on Wednesday (ten days later), the 24th. Apparently the new math has been instituted in our government, 24-9=10. The only days that count are business days. My FFL is open Tue-Sat, but Saturday doesn't count because it is not a normal business day by the governments rule. I thought about it all day, how I should sue the government for harassing me. It's pure harassment, because I go through this routine all the time. They already know (approximately) how many guns I have, and still make me go through the harassment garbage every time. What's next, meat, bread, milk?

    I'd guess the idea is to expand the harassment routines, like liquor and gun purchases, until the people just shut up and accept it without argument. It's like politics, the left is so confused they just keep voting more conforming politicians in. Just be pleased that you didn't have to wait 10 normal business days to come back and pick up your beer. Now while I'm hyped up, what about our free government controlled internet, what about your spam and ad free email accounts? I'd sure glad I don't even own a cellphone. I just bought a dozen, "I'm voting for the convicted Felon" hats, and from China (TEMU). If the government is so afraid of China (that's what they tell us) , why do they allow them commercial internet space here in the USA? Just shut them off, and arrest Hunter. They allow Hunter to do big business with China, so why shouldn't I be able to do small business with them? It's all pure harassment, to get us all to conform to their ultimate goal of extreme rule. I'm just sorry it took me this long to figure it all out. My kids will soon have to work it all out to their personal content. Hunter is now mononymous, just like Oprah, Groucho, Cher, Beyonce, Prince, Madonna, Liberace. etc. What is that all about? It's time the human part of population in the USA start telling their government, "No". There really are fewer freaks than the media try's to tell us. Todays military makes me sad, well actually mad, and again it's the leaders that have destroyed it. Enough of my rant.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Colorado is no different. It's the concept that is important. The authorities tell you to jump and the majority ask "how high". Just like the Covid jab. Kill the People's will to resist and they can get away with anything they want to do.
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  • Posted by CrustyOldGeezer 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    neighborhood one room schools where the older kids teach the younger kids that WILL TEACH THEIR KIDS in a few short years.
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  • Posted by KRUEG 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Lemmings, following the lemmings to the edge?
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  • Posted by rhfinle 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    On the slobbering guy:
    The best thing we can do is to (collectively, although I hate that word) dismantle the government 'public' school system.
    I consider myself a victim of public schools, and swore i would not inflict that PS BS on my kids.
    I'm fairly broke from it, but my kids went to private school. My daughter just got a Masters degree in Engineering in June and, instead of blindly going to get a job, just started her first LLC company.

    The way out of it is: don't fall into the trap of believing their BS and playing their game, to lose. This was the message of Atlas Shrugged.
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  • Posted by skidance 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Supposedly, here in Oregon, the problem arose because checkers were selling alcoholic beverages to minors. So, rather than fire or fine those checkers, it was decided to force them to check the ID of anyone and everyone seeking to purchase such a beverage. Nonsense, I say!
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  • Posted by rhfinle 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Abaco,
    They just did that to appear impartial.
    My wife used to get carded all the time, long after they stopped doing it to me. Now, the age difference isn't as noticible as when I was in college and she was in junior high (yes, things were different in the '70's, but, hey, I married her, after she started college) but she has for years since looked a lot younger than her real age, so she got carded well into her late '40's.
    Having a wife who looks good helps a lot, considering that getting married is like getting a lifetime subscription to Playboy, except that what shows up in the mailbox every month is...the April 1986 issue.
    Or maybe, unlike me, you just have kept yourself well and look young. I've never met you so maybe the girl at the counter thought you were hot looking.
    Or, sadly, maybe it's just bureaucrats run amuck.
    Read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy sometime and find out what (disturbingly) happened to the Golgafrinchans.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Me old dino don't, having to obey the stupid rules of other jobs before I fully retired. Sometimes I say, "Thank you. I feel so flattered."
    People say I don't look 77 but anyone with eyes can tell I'm over the hill.
    Walgreens used to always ask my age. They don't anymore because they stopped selling Carlo Rossi Sangria. I'm picky about that.
    Winn Dixie used to do that. They went bye-bye and Piggly Wiggly moved into the building. The Pig does not care. I bought my sangria there until the Pig began to sell other Carlo Rossi sangrias but not the original,
    Well, I'm picky about that too.
    Publix and an independent operation called Hill's Grocery still sells the original Carlo Rossi and they only check ID's of people who look way younger than me. Well, duh! How about that?
    Publix will even let me leave with a whole jug of Carlo Rossi completely unbagged. Me dino am NOT picky about that. Paper bags get in my way and is a stupid for an antiquated blue law as far as I am concerned.
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  • Posted by GaryL 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Can't buy beer without an ID but you can vote without ID or proof of citizenship. Thank you to all the Democrat losers in 2024
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    While I completely agree with your premise. Let me take a different approach to what happened with you that day. Cashiers are required in to check ID. Most places set some standard of a person looking above a certain age 30 or 40 to not need to be checked. However, if you have a cashier who makes the mistake of selling to someone underage and getting caught or maybe a new manager just around the corner cashiers revert back to the standard of checking no matter the age of the customer.

    Here's a story for you. I served my time in the Army and came home just over 5 years. My dad asked me to pick him up a 6 pack. I stopped at the gas station that my family owned. My aunt was at the register and she carded me and then refused to sell to me as my ID must be fake as I couldn't be old enough. I was 23 at the time. I had to make her call my grandfather, her dad to confirm that I was old enough to buy beer. She still didn't believe me but she did what her dad told her to do.
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  • Posted by JakeOrilley 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Here some places scan the ID and some don't. I always pay cash for the booze, so if a place asks to handle the ID so they can scan it, I politely (it is not the cashiers fault) thank them and leave the booze on the counter. And yeah - I'm 70. Asked one that was chatty about it, and she said that when it get scans it pings the great "computer in the sky" if the license is expired. So it is not just checking the age - it is checking validity.....
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    10,000%.
    I could drink at 18, but only by a 6 months, then 19, then 21, grandfathered each time. I thought it was discrimination back then (even though I drank less in all of high school and college than in 3 months now). Older people said: "You'll think differently when you are older." Well, I'm a phucking lot older now, and I still think the same. When you are an adult, you are an adult. That is it.
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  • Posted by katrinam41 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    So far, the only people carded in my area are under 40 and folks buying alcohol. Yep, that's what the sign on the counter says. Insanity! Sheeple! Besides nifo, I want to add bohica.
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  • Posted by mhubb 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    you can vote at 18
    you can get drafted at 18
    you can buy a gun at 18

    buy alcohol at 18, nope

    double standards are 100% unconstitutional
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