Terminator has Arrived!!
Posted by DrZarkov 2 months, 2 weeks ago to Technology
Terminator has arrived! Ukraine is starting to deploy autonomous drones that use AI to identify Russian armor and truck targets, without a human operator involved. This means jamming is ineffective, since communication isn't required for the drone to hit the target.
Actually, Israel has had such a weapon for a couple of decades, with its Harpy drone, but that weapon was not cheap, while the Ukrainians expect to produce their new autonomous drones in substantial numbers. While the new drones will be used strictly against vehicles, for the time being, by using GPS coordinates, such a drone could be sent against human targets in a narrowly defined area, such as Russian fortifications.
The use of autonomous weapons in warfare is no longer an oblique philosophical or legal discussion. Academic discussion as to whether or not the use of such weapons would constitute a war crime is ignored when a country is fighting for its existence.
Actually, Israel has had such a weapon for a couple of decades, with its Harpy drone, but that weapon was not cheap, while the Ukrainians expect to produce their new autonomous drones in substantial numbers. While the new drones will be used strictly against vehicles, for the time being, by using GPS coordinates, such a drone could be sent against human targets in a narrowly defined area, such as Russian fortifications.
The use of autonomous weapons in warfare is no longer an oblique philosophical or legal discussion. Academic discussion as to whether or not the use of such weapons would constitute a war crime is ignored when a country is fighting for its existence.
Land on the person. Inject a small amount of a serious toxin (like mercury). They will be dead soon enough.
I mean Gates is doing this with REAL mosquitos.
If any make it through Russian defenses, payback will swift and terrible.
May God have mercy on their souls.
Apparently Russia doesn't have enough antiaircraft systems to protect everywhere, and the mayor of St. Petersburg has told his residents that they can't expect to be protected from drone attacks. It's a big country, and now that Ukraine has drones with a 700 mile range, Russia has to decide if it should concentrate on the front, or protect their cities.
Russia recently lost one of its AWACS aircraft, which they claim was a strike by a Ukrainian Patriot missile. Given the range from Ukrainian territory, I'm suspicious that the plane was actually hit by one of Ukraine's old Soviet missiles we called the SA-5, and they call the S-200.
According to Russian sources, the Ukrainians have staged "ambushes" of their light bombers, the Su-34, knocking down four in just the last month with Patriots. The trick is to "paint" the aircraft with short range radars to distract their use of ECM, and hand off the track to Patriot crews, who don't turn on their radar until they can go direct to targeting without search, giving the Su-34 no time to avoid the missile, which has its own terminal phase narrow band radar.
After Ukraine was successful intercepting several of Russia's hypersonic missiles with the PAC-3 Patriot missile, that Putin claimed were "unstoppable," he's had the scientists who developed the missile arrested, apparently convinced they've sold the technical secrets to the US. It seems he's begun channeling Stalin, suspicious of even patriotic Russians.
like in Hammers Slammers where the Tanks had defense against Buzz Bombs, explosives that would send lots of pellets out to defense against short range hollow charge anti-tank RPGs
David Drake was a Vietnam Vet, in Armor, he passed a short time ago....he work Hammers Slammers, he had a clue about Armored Warfare
This is a definite and obviously necessary move beyond the simple reactive armor that's been added to every modern tank, and retrofitted to older vehicles. It's going to be interesting to see how this develops, as I think those who are saying the day of the tank is over are being a bit hasty.
low, low radar observable materials(??)
also, it depends upon just how good and what kind of radar the Soviets, i mean Russians (LOL) have. example would be from "Debt of Honor" from Clancy and how Doppler Radar works and just how much ground clutter you want to see (how you set the filter for the doppler, what speed it sees and reports)
NATO is up to its eyeballs in war crimes in Ukraine, and Big Pharma still has 23 bio-warfare labs in Ukraine, developing new strains of viruses far more deadly than Covid, complete with drone delivery systems.
Anti-Drone weapons.
I would assume sound/light sensors followed by wide spread laser.
Also, if these things are using GPS, blocking those signals may help hinder the accuracy of the reporting data. Since these devices LIKELY Communicate back to command just before attacking (I would), you might be able to detect some of that.
The race to the bottom has begun.
Of course I wonder if Ukraine developed this tech on their own? (LOL). Or if this is an act of war against Russia on Behalf of the USA...
Finally... WHY?
I watched HUNDREDS of news stories about how UKRAINE, from day 1, was CRUSHING Russia. And that the Russian soldiers were wetting their beds, writing sad letters to their families, and how Russia was so desperate for "bodies" they were kidnapping average citizens on buses to turn into human fodder... BECAUSE Ukraine was doing such an amazing job, proving Russia was a paper tiger... Every battle that Ukraine did anything positive in, was highlighted PROVING Russias weakness.
And now this?
And they need more money?
They need more arms? (And legs, and torsos apparently).
Maybe we were lied to about what is going on in Ukraine? methinks we were...
Russian forces still managed to roll over and capture a lot of Ukrainian territory, succeeding in creating the land bridge between Russia and the Crimean peninsula. However, their contempt for the Ukrainian military made them cocky and unprepared for the fast-moving armored assault the Ukrainian conducted to reclaim a lot of the Kharkiv region.
After that embarrassing lesson, the Russians dug in with an effective defense. Western media and political hacks had the fantasy that the sweeping counteroffensive in Kharkiv was going to be the usual result of subsequent action, ignoring the stiff defense that Russia had put in place. Zelensky tried to tell them that Ukraine didn't have the arms or manpower to pull off a repeat performance, but he was careful not to use the word "stalemate" for fear the flow of arms would stop. General Zaluzhny was probably sacked for using that word.
Ukraine was a major arms supplier to the USSR, so they have the technological ability to be creative. Their use of drones (including drone boats) has helped them overcome their lack of air and sea forces to match the Russians.
The anti-drone weapons deployed today are designed to stop remotely controlled drones, so an autonomous drone isn't as vulnerable. GPS can be blocked, but a backup inertial navigation system can serve the guidance purpose if the drone is a target seeker that just needs to fly into the vicinity of possible targets. I don't think the Ukrainian drone asks permission before executing its mission. That idea has always been as much a fantasy as all the existing "rules" about how a war must be conducted by a civilized people. Russia has been using WP (white phosphorus) from the beginning, which is a supposedly banned weapon by the Geneva convention.
Spy Vs Spy is always fun to watch.
(well, when real lives are not involved).
I simply wish WE were not involved. And that WE did not push the color revolution, etc. etc.
I also don't like that WE are the ones refusing to negotiate! Sending Boris to kill the deal.
Youtube has designs
our Military has them
the whole Russia / Ukraine story is longer than the US existed
It was a radical concept to me.
1. Control education, raise the youth to hate their country, elders, and freedom.
2. Control the news media, use it to reprogram the easily controlled (useful idiots)
3. Eradicate half of the population through self-administered mRND gene therapy in the disguised as a vaccinee.
4. Install weak, freckles leadership through stolen election, let everyone know of the stolen election to promote rebellion, squash rebellion. Concentration camps would be the best outcome here.
5. Flood the country with cheap and plentiful drugs, producing an expensive subclass, burdening our economy.
6. Pass laws making food more expensive and scarcer.
Good thing none of this is happening yet or I’d have to say that AI (or the people controlling) has the upper hand.
The significance of this move is that these vehicles are too light to set off antitank mines, and too robust to be affected by anti-personnel mines or return infantry fire. They're also much cheaper than other armored vehicles, which means that taking out these vehicles with ATGM will be an expensive exchange, if anything more sophisticated than a simple RPG is used.
Russia has announced development of a remote controlled BMP, which could reduce personnel losses, but it will still be vulnerable to antitank mines and is much more expensive to lose. No reports of such a vehicle on the front yet.
hovercraft won't setoff mines that use the weight of something
but there are other ways to set off mines...
I would think IEDs would be a simple way to respond to UGVs, with modified mines wired to remote triggers that troops can set off by turning a switch, but that requires a lot more work. The mines themselves only have pressure detonators, so those would have to be replaced with electrically activated firing caps, which is time consuming for an effective number of mines.