Military Vehicles

Posted by zzdragon 9 years, 7 months ago to News
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Can anyone explain to me just why police dept’s need Military Vehicles? Why does a school district need a 18 ton armored Military Vehicle? Is this Obama’s civilian army? We mothball Navy ship’s why not Army vehicle’s?


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  • Posted by $ TomB666 9 years, 7 months ago
    Current members of the US military are forbidden by law from participating in police actions within the US. Obama is arming his own "Brown Shirts". Do not expect him to go peacefully when his term is up - I'm betting on a national emergency to 'force' him to declare his 'need' to stay in office and suspend elections 'for a short time until the emergency is over.'
    Is he not now 'practicing' just how far beyond the law he can go without serious opposition? I wish I was joking about this :-(
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    • Posted by wiggy1 9 years, 7 months ago
      what you don't know but I THINK is the case, 0 is sending all of these military vehicle all over the country so they are in place for HIM to use when he tries to as you correctly point out make a move to take over , etc. the reason he is not sending troop to the middle east is so they can be here to take orders from the commander in chief. I also suspect that the border business is tied in so he can have jihad types coming here as it appears is happening. the only thing that we can hope for is the joint chiefs just stop him. or that the members of the military NOT follow orders against their fellow countrymen. NealS I don't know how old you are but if less than 75 you will see what Tom B is saying is more than likely to happen
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    • Posted by gtebbe 9 years, 6 months ago
      I am of the same mindset. Let's talk about all those pre-fab coffins being stored in Atlanta, and the alarming amount of hollow-points His High-ness has been accruing over the years.

      Being the self-declared "expert" on Constitutional Law, Barrack Milhous Obama knows he has already commited several Crimes Against the State from which he will not escape, so really there is nowhere left for him to go but Out with a Bang.

      This is my opinion.
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    • Posted by RevJay4 9 years, 7 months ago
      Since shortly after his election in '08, I have had this thought that his administration would create a "crisis" which would require via Martial Law a complete shutdown of Constitutional law and the rights of the citizens. I still think this will happen, if and when it appears the progressives will lose the measure of control they have enjoyed thus far.
      J.
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      • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 7 months ago
        If they lose the Senate, it is virtually guaranteed that this will occur.

        The only question is what will be the causus belli? I'm betting that this whole southern border issue is the foundation for the crisis. Will it be economic (too many illegals that are not being taken care of by the states) or will it be terroristic (many terror cells infiltrating).
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 7 months ago
    You might also ask why certain government agencies which supposedly have nothing to do with the military or law enforcement are being armed.
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    • Posted by gtebbe 9 years, 6 months ago
      Of course, the Forestry Services, the Bureau of Land Management, but most importantly the Department of Education. We all can see why they need to carry. So what's the issue? lol
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 7 months ago
    Because we are just cattle. Sometimes the livestock gets uppity, especially in the short history of our nation. Gotta keep em under control or they'll take over the farm house....

    I have known many cops over my life. I helped campaign for a family friend who became chief of police in Santa Clara. Frankly...I couldn't be a cop today. I pity those who have a brain. The empty-skull ones are doing fine, though.
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 7 months ago
    They have to keep the lunatic right wing people under control. [Sarcasm] Or how bout forcing the right to fall in line like sheep just like the left does. :)
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 7 months ago
    I have gone over this before. The institution known as "police" predates Rand but does not predate the United States of America. At least, not in America it doesn't.

    And now we see American police becoming paramilitary forces in all but name. Like the Mounties of Canada, or the Gendarmerie, or the Carabinieri.

    This is something out of several fevered motion-picture projects of the 1980s. The RoboCop franchise springs to mind. So does Blue Thunder (1983).
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 7 months ago
    Humvees make good emergency response vehicles for flood, tornado, hurricane, earthquake, when roads may not be in such good shape. Up-armored surplus Humvees more than adequate for standoffs, explosives. The MRAPS have no logical place in civilian police use.
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    • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 7 months ago
      I agree, a HumVee makes an excellent vehicle in a natural disaster - flood, etc., MRAPs shouldn't be given away at all, considering we're rushing back into Iraq/Syria now, might have been handy to still have some in inventory. Realistically, my Armada weighs as much as a HumVee, just has a few more creature-comforts. Capability is a big deal though though, and the difference between a little mini-SUV / Toyota Highlander / etc., versus a full-size Suburban, Armada, HumVee is pretty astounding. The nice thing about a HumVee (for police use during disasters) compared to other full-size SUV's is the gigantic plain-metal dashboard & center console areas that can mount radios, a computer, etc. very easily while still providing a lot of room for the occupants wearing their protective gear.

      I don't immediately cry conspiracy every time, government contracting is something I know quite a bit about (professionally), its entirely possible that the competition for the initial sale was so tight that the manufacturer built in some required-subscription payments annually to have access to spare parts or technicians or something for them (as you don't really put a warranty on an infantry fighting vehicle going into a war zone - you can't really sell insurance on one either).

      It could just be something like being willing to transfer the asset to someone else in the US just to get rid of the annual cost of keeping it.

      Nonetheless, I completely agree, MRAPs have no place in civilian police forces. While, they are probably no different than any other carrier if just used as a carrier vehicle, they considerably up the "fear factor" of the populace and probably with that intention to do so.

      "We the People" can change that though. We need to clean the slate with elected officials and bring in candidates that will specifically get rid of these changes that have been made.
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      • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 7 months ago
        I stopped watching that show about Red Jacket Firearms when I noticed they seemed focused on providing paramilitary gear to law enforcement. Like an armored vehicle sporting a 50 caliber machine gun. Or a patrol boat with four grenade launchers... or a 50 cal mount for "civilian" class police helicopters.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 7 months ago
    It would be even easier to "mothball" army equipment. All equipment needs to be used to stay in working shape. The navy pays contractors to maintain the mothballed ships. The army could must park the equipment and then rotate the use of it for exercises, which would solve the need to pay for external maintainers.
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