Tucker Carlson Interviews Vladimir Putin
Posted by freedomforall 3 months, 1 week ago to Politics
Exerpt:
"Last week, Tucker Carlson traveled to Rusia to interview President Vladimir Putin. This sent the left into hysterics - some of whom have called for the journalist to face sanctions, or worse.
Prior to the interview - which can be seen right now in its entirety at tuckercarlson.com, Carlson explained that it's his job as a journalist "to inform people," as "most Americans are not informed" as to what's happening in Ukraine.
To that end, let's get into it.
Tucker starts the interview by asking Putin why he invaded Ukraine, "and the answer we got shocked us."
Putin proceeded to delve into the history of Ukraine, going back to the middle-ages. Tucker pushed back, saying "I'm not sure why it's relevant to what happened two years ago," to which Putin continued with the history lesson.
"But why didn't you make this case for the first 22 years as president, that Ukraine wasn't a real country?" Tucker asked.
"The Soviet Union was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it, including the Black Sea region. At some point when Russia received them as an outcome of the Russo Turkish wars, they were called New Russia or another Russia. But that does not matter. What matters is that Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, established Ukraine that way," Putin replied. "For decades, the Ukrainian Soviet Republic developed as part of the USSR. And for unknown reasons, again, the Bolsheviks were engaged in Ukrainization."
The trigger for the Ukraine war: "Initially, it was the coup in Ukraine that provoked the conflict... They launched the war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started."
NATO Expansion
Getting to the meat of the Ukraine war, Putin told Carlson that "The former Russian leadership assumed that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist and therefore there were no longer any ideological dividing lines. Russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the Soviet Union, and believed that this would be understood by the so-called civilized West as an invitation for cooperation and association."
"We were promised no NATO to the east, not an inch to the east, as we were told. And then what? They said, well, it's not enshrined on paper, so we'll expand.""
"Last week, Tucker Carlson traveled to Rusia to interview President Vladimir Putin. This sent the left into hysterics - some of whom have called for the journalist to face sanctions, or worse.
Prior to the interview - which can be seen right now in its entirety at tuckercarlson.com, Carlson explained that it's his job as a journalist "to inform people," as "most Americans are not informed" as to what's happening in Ukraine.
To that end, let's get into it.
Tucker starts the interview by asking Putin why he invaded Ukraine, "and the answer we got shocked us."
Putin proceeded to delve into the history of Ukraine, going back to the middle-ages. Tucker pushed back, saying "I'm not sure why it's relevant to what happened two years ago," to which Putin continued with the history lesson.
"But why didn't you make this case for the first 22 years as president, that Ukraine wasn't a real country?" Tucker asked.
"The Soviet Union was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it, including the Black Sea region. At some point when Russia received them as an outcome of the Russo Turkish wars, they were called New Russia or another Russia. But that does not matter. What matters is that Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, established Ukraine that way," Putin replied. "For decades, the Ukrainian Soviet Republic developed as part of the USSR. And for unknown reasons, again, the Bolsheviks were engaged in Ukrainization."
The trigger for the Ukraine war: "Initially, it was the coup in Ukraine that provoked the conflict... They launched the war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started."
NATO Expansion
Getting to the meat of the Ukraine war, Putin told Carlson that "The former Russian leadership assumed that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist and therefore there were no longer any ideological dividing lines. Russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the Soviet Union, and believed that this would be understood by the so-called civilized West as an invitation for cooperation and association."
"We were promised no NATO to the east, not an inch to the east, as we were told. And then what? They said, well, it's not enshrined on paper, so we'll expand.""
Compared to those terminal cancerous lesions on humanity, Putin's dreams are insignificant cold viruses.
All that said, USA needs to think about USA first, as does European countries. We need less government, less controls on the economy, no money printing, and a strong moral fiber as well as impenetrable defenses. Russia will do what it does and we should stay out of it
One very interesting post by a Polish officer stated that if Russian troops stepped over Poland's border their army would roll right over them, and in a few days be in Moscow. They would burn it to the ground like they did during the Polish-Muscovite War of 1605-1618.
American and European business persons weren't trained to deal with the introduction of their way of conducting things to people that had no exposure to the high risk environment of western markets. There was no ill intent on the part of western players, but they didn't realize the effect on Russians who had no skill or desire to operate in such an environment. When ventures failed, or payment wasn't made because a product wasn't delivered, or didn't meet standards, the Russians felt betrayed.
If there had been a strategy to create a kind of middle ground, to meet Russians halfway as they were introduced to how to deal with western folks that had so recently been their enemy, and who might as well have been beings from another planet when it cam to the conduct of business affairs, things might have turned out differently.
fall of the USSR are pissed that foreigners stomped on their dreams.
I take no side in this as I have little to base a rational conclusion.
Some who lived in Soviet satellite countries said they sometimes longed for the stability they had under the Soviets.
This surprised me, coming from people who had learned to prosper in a freer 'western' world.
Xi has established such absolute control that if something happens to him, there's no real successor. When things fall apart, as I suspect they will, things will become brutal in the Middle Kingdom as he lashes out to punish anyone he thinks enabled failure.
The EU and NATO both indicated the door was open for Russian membership, but the Russians viewed those as traps to make them subordinate to foreign rule. Putin was smart enough to recognize it was easier to support the Russian ego and pride than to convince Russians that joining those organizations could be a positive thing.
Call it a culture clash, and Putin had a personal vision of remaking Russia into a superpower again, which led to supporting the other side of whomever the western countries didn't get along with. He appears to have felt the Cold War was a good thing, keeping the world in balance, and wanted to restore that balance.
Wanting to avoid the problems of the Soviet economy, Putin went the fascist direction, with the state directing the economy, rather than trying to own it, and it appeared to be working, until he decided to stop the move for independence of some of the former socialist republics, diverting the nation's wealth into increasing military ventures.
We had a fantasy of a new Russia that would become part of one big family of developed countries, and Putin spoiled that vision, so a lot of Americans are pissed that he stomped on the dream.
Nuclear weapons are not going to save the Russian Federation. He who first uses nuclear weapons will result in immediate expanded use of nuclear weapons and the end of civilizations. So, every country really might as well get rid of them.
2) There is a lot of ingenuity inherent in the people, and I think Zeihan doesn't take that into account. Policies could change as demographics change
It's probably always been that way.
Please accept my apologies if I did call you a liar.
That was not my intention, which was to express my mistrust in reports from both sides of the conflict.
I have no reason to doubt your personal Russian contacts, although I'm sure your observations often get discounted because those with opposing view tell you anecdotal experiences don't count in "the big picture." It has to be difficult for anyone from either country involved to get the facts out (just like I don't trust nearly every official source of information in our own government and media).
Gitmo all the most obvious traitors including many in the con-gress.
Otherwise the con-gress will just impeach him again and 4 years will
pass with nothing done and another traitor tyrant Democrat as incoming
potus after the election is stolen again will pardon everyone who is a
traitor and arrest thousands who are innocent.
The Jan 6 committee should be executed immediately for treason.
I tend to rely on France 24 and the Indian news service, CRUX, which seem to be more even handed in their coverage of the whole affair.
Constructive destruction is the likely path.
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