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  • Posted by $ 9 months, 2 weeks ago
    I would wish the Blessings of Abraham on these poor people (on both sides) in this battle going on over land rights in Israel. Someone told me they weren't fighting of land, they are fighting over oil? nb
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  • Posted by $ 9 months, 2 weeks ago
    Needless to say we grew up color blind and so did our children. I saw a little girl this morning saying 'I hate the Jews, we need to kill them'. She learned that from an adult.nb
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  • Posted by mshupe 9 months, 2 weeks ago
    No doubt, to teach children to hate is child abuse. In a similar vein, to teach children that we are all sinners and must spend our lives in repentance is child abuse. Conversely, to demonstrate to a child that the world is orderly and intelligible is virtuous. To a young child, learning must be fun, and it is the most fun for them to learn. The goal is independence, integrity, and pride. Their self-esteem is derived from the own efficacy. To teach them hate is make them dependent on the actions of others. A life without purpose is depraved, and that is depravity.
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  • Posted by mhubb 9 months, 2 weeks ago
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    This is not about LAND and it has never been about LAND. Israel occupies LESS that one sixth of 1% of the land that ARABS and MUSLIMS occupy. There has also never been a country or state called Palestine it therefore LOGICALLY follows that it cannot be OCCUPIED or INVADED and you cannot be a REFUGEE from it. The 'Palestinains' were INVENTED by the EGYPTIAN HOMOSEXUAL PAEDOPHILE Yasser Arafat in the 1960's before that they were known as what they STILL are the MUSLIM ARAB INVADERS of the Holy Land. ITS ALL ABOUT MUSLIMS KILLING JEWS.
    There is a myth hanging over all discussion of the Palestinian problem: the myth that this land was “Arab” land taken from its native inhabitants by invading Jews. Whatever may be the correct solution to the problems of the Middle East, let’s get a few things straight:
    As a strictly legal matter, the Jews didn’t take Palestine from the Arabs; they took it from the British, who exercised sovereign authority in Palestine under a League of Nations mandate for thirty years prior to Israel’s declaration of independence in 1948. And the British don’t want it back.
    If you consider the British illegitimate usurpers, fine. In that case, this territory is not Arab land but Turkish land, a province of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years until the British wrested it from them during the Great War in 1917. And the Turks don’t want it back.
    If you look back earlier in history than the Ottoman Turks, who took over Palestine over in 1517, you find it under the sovereignty of the yet another empire not indigenous to Palestine: the Mamluks, who were Turkish and Circassian slave-soldiers headquartered in Egypt. And the Mamluks don’t even exist any more, so they can’t want it back.
    So, going back 800 years, there’s no particularly clear chain of title that makes Israel’s title to the land inferior to that of any of the previous owners. Who were, continuing backward:
    The Mamluks, already mentioned, who in 1250 took Palestine over from:
    The Ayyubi dynasty, the descendants of Saladin, the Kurdish Muslim leader who in 1187 took Jerusalem and most of Palestine from:
    The European Christian Crusaders, who in 1099 conquered Palestine from:
    The Seljuk Turks, who ruled Palestine in the name of:
    The Abbasid Caliphate of Baghdad, which in 750 took over the sovereignty of the entire Near East from:
    The Umayyad Caliphate of Damascus, which in 661 inherited control of the Islamic lands from:
    The Arabs of Arabia, who in the first flush of Islamic expansion conquered Palestine in 638 from:
    The Byzantines, who (nice people—perhaps it should go to them?) didn’t conquer the Levant, but, upon the division of the Roman Empire in 395, inherited Palestine from:
    The Romans, who in 63 B.C. took it over from:
    The last Jewish kingdom, which during the Maccabean rebellion from 168 to 140 B.C. won control of the land from:
    The Hellenistic Greeks, who under Alexander the Great in 333 B.C. conquered the Near East from:
    The Persian empire, which under Cyrus the Great in 639 B.C. freed Jerusalem and Judah from:
    The Babylonian empire, which under Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C. took Jerusalem and Judah from:
    The Jews, meaning the people of the Kingdom of Judah, who, in their earlier incarnation as the Israelites, seized the land in the 12th and 13th centuries B.C. from:
    The Canaanites, who had inhabited the land for thousands of years before they were dispossessed by the Israelites.
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    • Posted by mhubb 9 months, 2 weeks ago
      As the foregoing suggests, any Arab claim to sovereignty based on inherited historical control will not stand up. Arabs are not native to Palestine, but are native to Arabia, which is called Arab-ia for the breathtakingly simple reason that it is the historic home of the Arabs. The territories comprising all other “Arab” states outside the Arabian peninsula—including Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia, and Algeria, as well as the entity now formally under the Palestinian Authority—were originally non-Arab nations that were conquered by the Muslim Arabs when they spread out from the Arabian peninsula in the first great wave of jihad in the 7th century, defeating, mass-murdering, enslaving, dispossessing, converting, or reducing to the lowly status of dhimmitude millions of Christians and Jews and destroying their ancient and flourishing civilizations. Prior to being Christian, of course, these lands had even more ancient histories. Pharaonic Egypt, for example, was not an Arab country through its 3,000 year history. The recent assertion by the Palestinian Arabs that they are descended from the ancient Canaanites whom the ancient Hebrews displaced is absurd in light of the archeological evidence.
      There is no record of the Canaanites surviving their destruction in ancient times. History records literally hundreds of ancient peoples that no longer exist. The Arab claim to be descended from Canaanites is an invention that came after the 1964 founding of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the same crew who today deny that there was ever a Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Prior to 1964 there was no “Palestinian” people and no “Palestinian” claim to Palestine; the Arab nations who sought to overrun and destroy Israel in 1948 planned to divide up the territory amongst themselves. Let us also remember that prior to the founding of the state of Israel in 1948, the name “Palestinian” referred to the Jews of Palestine.
      The only nations that have perfect continuity between their earliest known human inhabitants and their populations of the present day are Iceland, parts of China, and a few Pacific islands. The Chinese case is complicated by the fact that the great antiquity of Chinese civilization has largely erased the traces of whatever societies preceded it, making it difficult to reconstruct to what extent the expanding proto-Chinese displaced (or absorbed) the prehistoric peoples of that region. History is very sketchy in regard to the genealogies of ancient peoples. The upshot is that “aboriginalism”—the proposition that the closest descendants of the original inhabitants of a territory are the rightful owners—is not tenable in the real world. It is not clear that it would be a desirable idea even if it were tenable. Would human civilization really be better off if there had been no China, no Japan, no Greece, no Rome, no France, no England, no Ireland, no United States?
      Back to the Arabs: I have no problem recognizing the legitimacy of the Arabs’ tenure in Palestine when they had it, from 638 to 1099, a period of 461 years out of a history lasting 5,000 years. They took Palestine by military conquest, and they lost it by conquest, to the Christian Crusaders in 1099. Of course, military occupation by itself does not determine which party rightly has sovereignty in a given territory. Can it not be said that the Arabs have sovereign rights, if not to all of Israel, then at least to the West Bank, by virtue of their majority residency in that region from the early Middle Ages to the present?
      To answer that question, let’s look again at the historical record. Prior to 1947, as we’ve discussed, Palestine was administered by the British under the Palestine Mandate, the ultimate purpose of which, according to the Balfour Declaration, was the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. In 1924 the British divided the Palestine Mandate into an Arabs-only territory east of the Jordan, which became the Kingdom of Trans-Jordan, and a greatly reduced Palestine Mandate territory west of the Jordan, which was inhabited by both Arabs and Jews. Given the fact that the Jews and Arabs were unable to coexist in one state, there had to be two states. At the same time, there were no natural borders separating the two peoples, in the way that, for example, the Brenner Pass has historically marked the division between Latin and Germanic Europe. Since the Jewish population was concentrated near the coast, the Jewish state had to start at the coast and go some distance inland. Exactly where it should have stopped, and where the Arab state should have begun, was a practical question that could have been settled in any number of peaceful ways, almost all of which the Jews would have accepted.
      The Jews’ willingness to compromise on territory was demonstrated not only by their acquiescence in the UN’s 1947 partition plan, which gave them a state with squiggly, indefensible borders, but even by their earlier acceptance of the 1937 Peel Commission partition plan, which gave them nothing more than a part of the Galilee and a tiny strip along the coast. Yet the Arab nations, refusing to accept any Jewish sovereignty in Palestine even if it was the size of a postage stamp, unanimously rejected the 1937 Peel plan, and nine years later they violently rejected the UN’s partition plan as well. When the Arabs resorted to arms in order to wipe out the Jews and destroy the Jewish state, they accepted the verdict of arms. They lost that verdict in 1948, and they lost it again in 1967, when Jordan, which had annexed the West Bank in 1948 (without any objections from Palestinian Arabs that their sovereign nationhood was being violated), attacked Israel from the West Bank during the Six Day War despite Israel’s urgent pleas that it stay out of the conflict. Israel in self-defense then captured the West Bank. The Arabs thus have no grounds to complain either about Israel’s existence (achieved in ’48) or about its expanded sovereignty from the river to the sea (achieved in ’67).
      The Arabs have roiled the world for decades with their furious protest that their land has been “stolen” from them. One might take seriously such a statement if it came from a pacifist people such as the Tibetans, who had quietly inhabited their land for ages before it was seized by the Communist Chinese in 1950. The claim is laughable coming from the Arabs, who in the early Middle Ages conquered and reduced to slavery and penury ancient peoples and civilizations stretching from the borders of Persia to the Atlantic; who in 1947 rejected an Arab state in Palestine alongside a Jewish state and sought to obliterate the nascent Jewish state; who never called for a distinct Palestinian Arab state until the creation of the terrorist PLO in 1964—sixteen years after the founding of the state of Israel; and who to this moment continue to seek Israel’s destruction, an object that would be enormously advanced by the creation of the Arab state they demand. The Arab claim to sovereign rights west of the Jordan is only humored today because of a fatal combination of world need for Arab oil, leftist Political Correctness that has cast the Israelis as “oppressors,” and, of course, good old Jew-hatred.
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  • Posted by $ 9 months, 2 weeks ago
    When I was a frisky teenager, I once slid my car off the road and landed in a ditch. When the tires quit spinning two very large black gentlemen were looking in the window of my car. I rolled down the window and one asked, 'Are you the little one or the older one?' I said 'Little'. They pushed my car out of the ditch and directed me to pull in their driveway where they washed mud off my car. I thanked them and drove home. When I got home Chief Red Face was standing in the driveway! He announced to me...I can get another car! I cannot get another daughter!' Uh oh busted.. phones work faster than we do. nb.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 months, 2 weeks ago
    I raised my kids to be colorblind. Sadly, now I've had to explain to them that some of the kids of color were raised by ignorant scumbags and that's why the kids act like they hate my kids. Truth should be encouraged...
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  • Posted by $ 9 months, 2 weeks ago
    I am old enough to remember WWII and I do not want a repeat of that. Rationing, blackouts, death notices (also Korea, and Viet Nam. I lost my brother in law (a field grade officer in VN and my husband served in Korea and in VN twice. Enough. Nb
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    • Posted by $ 9 months, 2 weeks ago
      My father served in WWII and he was gone so long, I didn't recognized him when he returned My daddy wore a white Navy suit and a sweet little hat and this man came home and told me he was my daddy and he had on a dark blue suit, different hat and weighed over 200 pounds
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      • Posted by $ 9 months, 2 weeks ago
        That's what happens in wars. It took three days for me to recognize him...when he got amused by something and started laughing, I almost knocked him down rushing to him. I was 5 when he left and 8 when he came home. nb
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