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The God of the Machine - Tranche #7

Posted by mshupe 10 months, 3 weeks ago to History
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Chapter 3, Excerpt 1 of 3
Rome Discovers Political Structure

To sentimentalize Roman law and gloss over its harsh and faulty aspects is to miss the point. Its solid virtue was its mere existence, since at worst it proved preferable to the unpredictable will of either king or people. In their ordinary conduct the Athenians were probably more humane than the Romans; but the quality of Roman law was that it was dependable. A man must be charged with a specified act having known the penalties and convicted on something more than opinion.

The practical use of the concept of law in founding the empire began with international relations. Their habit of mind made the Romans more reliable in keeping treaties and more steadfast against reverses, and therefore made their alliance desired. Citizenship being formulated as a legal condition rather than an accident of birth; Rome could bestow it on the people of another nation. A general grant took effect on individuals; the orbital attraction first exerted on the mass thus acted on the particles separately.

The result was true fusing or welding, a chemical compound rather than a simple mixture. Time and distance are the two factors that necessitate formal government. The structure must accommodate the mechanism, and each must correspond respectively to the mode of conversion of energy. These forms and mechanisms do not occur and assemble fortuitously by material determinism. They are created by conscious intelligence. Production methods will catch up with advanced political ideas.


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  • Posted by $ katrinam41 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    "true fusing or welding". When we were a melting pot, we remained strong and united. Now that we are just shake-n-bake, there is no cohesive force to maintain stability. This article is great reading. Thanks, mshupe, for posting the series of excerpts.
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    • Posted by 10 months, 3 weeks ago
      My pleasure, thank you! You bring up an essential point. Politicians at every level and both parties promise unity, but the kind of which they speak is bullshit and they are ignorant of the kind that matters. In politics, the only unity that matters, because it respects natural law, is to agree to the protection of individual rights. Prior to immigration quotas and the welfare state, people came here to be left alone to succeed.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    "...Citizenship being formulated as a legal condition rather than an accident of birth; Rome could bestow it on the people of another nation..." A crucial step in the recognition of an individual's rights as more important than as a member of a class, his country of origin or religion. He could now be judged on his merits and actions.
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    • Posted by 10 months, 3 weeks ago
      Yes, a radical idea, and one not recognized again until America. Today, it's primary to solving America's immigration quagmire created by the collectivist forces of progressivism and conservatism.
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      • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 months, 3 weeks ago
        Exactly! The immigrants represent dislocated mass similar to loose cargo aboard a ship in a storm. Unconstrained, the cargo will capsize and sink the ship. Perhaps this is the intended outcome of the open borders policy of Obama/Biden?
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        • Posted by 10 months, 3 weeks ago
          I don't think that is the context of the 'dislocated mass veto." In fact, this line may very well be the inspiration behind the strike - the unique and powerful literary tool as the focal point of Atlas Shrugged. These people merely quit, stopped producing, stopped contributing to a political system being used against them. In today's context, they are coming to America to rejoin the long energy circuit. Obozo and eunuch Biden aren't smart enough to understand Paterson's theory.
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          • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 months, 3 weeks ago
            But is "the long energy circuit" still in existence or have those people in government drained and diverted so much energy as to make rejoining impossible? At what point do the lights go out as depicted at the end of AS? And how long will it take to rebuild?
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            • Posted by 10 months, 3 weeks ago
              Yes, of course the long energy circuit is operating best in the least regulated industries, particularly high tech. It is so profitable and so ubiquitous that they can buy protection and deliver voters. Of course, that will eventually be their demise in the long run. However, the extreme intrusion blamed on the Wuhan virus caused ntense supply network disruptions that will never be quantified.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    Rome didn't make others "citizens" of the greater Roman Empire unless they either retired from service in the Roman Legions (and lived through the process) or were politically connected enough to get a local Praetor to grant you citizenship. They put many countries under tribute, however.
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    • Posted by 10 months, 3 weeks ago
      I think the emphasis on the fact that their was such a thing as citizenship thst allowed those lucky enough to have it to have some semblance of objective law.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 10 months, 3 weeks ago
        Hillsdale has an excellent primer course on the Roman Republic here: https://online.hillsdale.edu/courses/...

        There were two classes of "citizen" in Roman culture. Those who were true Citizens had land and were represented in the Senate. The working-class stiffs or plebians had no such representation and (after a revolt) the Romans created an office specifically to represent them. Nations under tribute, however, had neither representation in the Senate nor were they part of the Plebian class of representation: they had to resort to their local Consuls and Roman leaders for governance, and though the Romans generally tried to allow the various sub-cultures to do their own thing, Romans were the law and enforced it.

        If you were a Roman, you got representation of a sort. If not, however...
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