13

Only The Rich Will Be Able To Afford An Electric Vehicle - CEO of Dodge, Jeep, Ram

Posted by freedomforall 2 years, 1 month ago to Government
80 comments | Share | Flag

Excerpt:
"“The middle class will not be able to buy EVs,” said Tavares, bluntly. “Very simply put.” Of course. The typical middle class person doesn’t even earn $60k in a year. Much less net that sum. Federal and state taxes gyp that down to around $48,000 – leaving him about $4,000 on hand to pay his rent/mortgage – which likely cuts that sum in half, or close to it. He still hasn’t paid the utility bill or his phone bill – much less his food bill. If he is frugal, he might have $1,000 left – after he pays his fixed expenses – to pay for a car.

As it happens, the monthly cost – on the low end – to finance the purchase of a $60k car is currently just about every cent he has left. It leaves him nothing to pay for the insurance he’d have to buy in order to get (and maintain) the loan, which would require him to come up with another couple hundred bucks each month he hasn’t got.

Not to mention the cost of fueling the ride he can’t afford – whether electricity or gas.

Voila!

Bear in in mind that if the middle class will not be able to buy EVs, then the working class will be even less able to. That leaves only one class that will be able to. The wealthy. "
-------------------------------------------------

Yet the evil fascist government is forcing all vehicle makers to stop making internal combustion vehicles that most can afford.
The result is transportation and travel will be completely controlled by whoever controls mass transit.
No more freedom to associate.
No more freedom to speak against government tyranny.
No more freedom to take a better job outside your local allowed travel area.
Sounds like Soviet Union communist tyranny has come to America.

DC. NIFO.


All Comments


Previous comments...   You are currently on page 3.
  • Posted by $ gharkness 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm just surprised there's such a thing as the huge 18-wheeled EVs. Of course they are being sidelined now due to a parking brake issue (?) but they'll be back. I just don't know how electric drive can possibly save the owners of the trucks anything, especially with long haul driving.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by tutor-turtle 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Long Copper pipe.
    Long coil of wire wrapped around it.
    Cylindrical Neodymium magnet that just fits the inside of the pipe.
    A potent charge to send the magnet down the pipe at tremendous velocity.
    Depending on the size, The resulting electrical pulse can be devastating to any near-by electronics.
    The bigger the pipe, length of wire, force of charge coupled with sufficient height (say a balloon) One could really wreak a lot of havoc with commonly found objects and not a lot of financial investment.
    This is all theoretical, of course. I would never advocate such atrocious behavior.
    By the way, a miniature version of this device in the form of a drone on wheels was available to law enforcement at least 30 years ago to disable a suspect's fleeing automobile. Just guide it under the suspects car (easier said than done) and push the self-destruct button. It fries the electrical system in the car above it.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • 10
    Posted by 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    All of the reasons given for transition are lies.
    None of the alternatives being pushed are practical, yet they are being forced on people by
    government liars with no rational evidence they can replace hydrocarbon power at any price.
    The real reasons are hidden and will be hard to believe by the naive, trusting honest people.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    250 miles? I haven't driven that far in years. If I need to, could rent a car (assuming I didn't have 4 others). Range anxiety is a fabricated red herring for most people. EVs work fine. The fact that "progressives" support them, and come up with ways to use government force to implement them is not a reason for cognitive dissonance.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That's the truth. The numbers just don't work for EV's.
    Heck, the numbers don't work for any new car claiming to deliver savings due
    to efficient mpg's if compared to a used car, especially a diesel powered used car.
    That is the real reason that VW had to be punished by the Deep State EPA for
    delivering economical diesel cars.
    Now there are no new diesel cars available in USA.
    Everything about the benefit of EV's is based on red herring disinformation.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • -2
    Posted by CaptainKirk 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, we WILL run out of Gasoline and Coal. We've used about 50% of the worlds coal in the last 150yrs. And we are consuming it faster than ever.

    We MUST transition to something. We must change. I just don't like the obvious forced changes and the lies.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 years, 1 month ago
    Good thing he will have 15 minute Prisons!
    So no car is required.
    No freedom.
    Just work, eat bugs, die.
    Oh, and go online to get dopamine.

    Sperm counts are down like 50%
    Since nobody wants to live like we are, much less where we are going... I expect those to continue to crater.

    Kids don't even want to date any more.
    Kids don't want to learn to drive.
    Just a cell phone, and leave them alone.
    No need for a job.
    no need to live.
    Hate everything.

    The plans working...
    Starting to realize why they took the Georgia Guide Stones down... Because it was becoming obvious!
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    And the banksters have been destroying the USD for 110 years.
    It won't stop until the People act again with the same fortitude as those who pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ gharkness 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think if you invest the couple of thousand it takes to get a faster charger, you can....but then you've paid a couple thousand! There's NO WAY any of this is going to be economical.....and no way any liberal explanation is ever going to make sense.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Hard to imagine that we would trash 100 years of gasoline car technology just to please a dummy like Biden. If EV technology was what is needed, people would buy it without making others pay for their purchase.. They arent practical as of yet. Doesnt work in the cold, range is a bit unpredictable to say the least, and they use large amounts of rare earth items which are in short supply. I cant go from Vegas to Phoenix wihtout waiting for hours along the route to get enough charge.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    EVs were around in the early 1900's too. Not practical for automobiles. They are practical for golf carts and such things, but the state of the art isnt advanced enough for maintream use. I wouldnt touch one, let along pay 60k for one
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm sure you're right about Chrysler's agenda.
    But Cheapest Volt $27.5k per chevy site with no options. $31k+ with leather options.
    That's already double the most expensive car I have ever purchased.
    Much rather buy a 20 year old $6k-$10k Volvo/Subaru/Toyota wagon with luxury and 400-500 mile range.
    Save $20k now and $20k more when the Bolt battery has to be replaced.
    EV's are not a competitive option today for most needs unless IC fuel is insanely restricted by damn-fool government policy.
    I hope you enjoy your EV if it's practical for you.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Free electricity at night at your house isnt very practical due to the fact you dont get much really at home, even if you charge all night
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The BOLT is completely worthless unless you only want to go a few miles from home. The infrastructure and technology is just not there yet to compete with gasoline cars
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 2 years, 1 month ago
    Only the rich can come to vegas now, or even go out to eat at a sit down restaurant with the family, or buy a pickup truck. Inflation has struck big time unless you ARE in the rich class. Thanks government for destroying our dollar
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by tutor-turtle 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I confess I am a Geek-o-holic. I love the concept of electric transport, both personal and public... However, there are a few obstacles that just may be insurmountable at the present time.
    First: almost all of the main components ( i.e. batteries and control electronics) are coming from foreign sources, not all of whom are friendly to this country. Meaning they could cut our supply off at the drop of a hat. Even the ones that are neutral or even friendly to us are using slave labor and distinctly environmentally disastrous and physically dangerous mining techniques. All for about $1/day wages.
    Two: The batteries are not recyclable. They go into a landfill... and leak. And they are not cheap, costing as much as half the car.s value.
    Three: This country has one of the best electrical infrastructures in the world, and our 100-year-old system is already over burdened. Even if all other issues were addressed, There is no way we can support a mass transition over to electric transport. No how, no way.
    Four: Say we had a totally modernized electrical distribution system with charging stations all over, including induction coils implanted in the road ways so you can charge on-the-fly, Where does the electricity come from? There could never be enough Chinese wind turbines and Chinese solar panels to cover that need. Would you want one, two or three... in your back yard? Greenies hate oil, natural gas and coal fired plants, the most environmentally friendly source of all is Nuclear, the greenies go apoplectic when nuclear is even mentioned. Kinda leaves us S.O.O.L. don't it?
    Last, and perhaps the deal breaker: These vehicles are under the absolute control from the manufacturer. Ask anyone who owns a Tesla. The factory can shut your car off from recharging, They can shut your car off while you're driving it. They can turn your car on with out you being in it. They can drive it back to the factory or other location without you being in it.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Two cars, like most families. Saying it has to be $60K is just a lie, to keep people who wanted a Charger anyway feeling secure.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ Snezzy 2 years, 1 month ago
    1987 D150 gas
    1992 D250 Diesel
    1993 D350 Diesel
    1997 Ford Ranger gas, currently "off road" broken clutch bracket

    Our mechanic seems to be able to keep them all working.

    Also a 1910 bike-axle buggy, a 2-horse wagonette, a surrey with a (dilapidated) fringe, and a Meadowbrook cart, all of which our ponies can pull. We have harness, buggy whips, etc., and we know how to drive.

    If we actually get to working "Soviet-style" we'll need an ox-cart and a pair of oxen. I believe that oxen are more efficient than horses, needing to eat less of the feed produced by the farm. Producing pasture, hay and grain is of course "green" and it means that our transportation would be solar powered. Here's a published paper on cattle in the USSR; https://www.fao.org/3/ah759e/AH759E07...

    Look, here's another paper: https://archiviostorico.sdfgroup.com/...

    Y'all can come and join my collective farm. Collective? Yes, you will work, and I will collect whatever money we might happen to make.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by starguy 2 years, 1 month ago
    You vil own nuzzing, und like it!
    -- Klaus "Bond Villain" Schwab
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Ben_C 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That's fine for local commutes to and from work. However, I need my MKX to haul all kinds a stuff for my work and family. Back in the day it was a station wagon. Now it is an SUV.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ gharkness 2 years, 1 month ago
    See, I don't care if rich people have something I can't afford. What I DO care about is that I won't be able to buy a cheaper substitute (gasoline-engine car).

    On another note: I noticed that my local electric company is running an online ad offering FREE electricity at night (specifically mentioning that this would be the time to plug in your EV.)

    Texas is a strange state with electric rates. We all (sorry, most of us) get our electricity from the same place (that infamous Texas grid, which covers most but not all of Texas), but we can buy it from hundreds of different "providers" who then do every sort of obfuscation to keep a consumer from realizing no matter what he does, he's getting screwed.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 1 month ago
    Chevy Bolt is $25.6K before any ridiculous government incentives. This is completely affordable. No surprise Chrysler is saying this. Chrysler doesn't have a good option to compete with others.
    Reply | Permalink  

  • Comment hidden. Undo