Police MURDER Innocent Man Who Does Not Consent To Tyranny
Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 2 days ago to Government
Excerpt:
"An interesting thing about government – about government workers – is that they can legally do things that would be criminal under the law if we were to do them.
This begs the question about the morality of what government does – unless one takes the position that legality and morality are synonymous. In which case it is hard to understand why the leaders of National Socialist Germany – always important spell out the socialism that was at the core of that murderous regime – were prosecuted after World War II, given that the crimes they were charged with weren’t criminal, as a matter of (German National Socialist) law.
Government morality seems to boil down to this: If you do not follow its laws, government workers will – ultimately – kill you.
A young man named Chase Allen, who was 25-years-old, is dead because of a chain of events that began when a government worker decided to enforce a law requiring his car (all cars) to be “registered” with the government. Chase did not believe he had a moral obligation to “register” his car with the government and so he didn’t, apparently.
You may think the government has the right to enforce such laws, though it is difficult to understand how “government” – which isn’t a living being – can have any rights at all. It certainly has power, of course – but then, so did the National Socialists in Germany."
Original report:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...
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Government is out of control.
Agents of government are not being trained to honor individual rights guaranteed by the US constitution.
Instead they are provided with military weapons and trained to shoot first and ask questions later.
"An interesting thing about government – about government workers – is that they can legally do things that would be criminal under the law if we were to do them.
This begs the question about the morality of what government does – unless one takes the position that legality and morality are synonymous. In which case it is hard to understand why the leaders of National Socialist Germany – always important spell out the socialism that was at the core of that murderous regime – were prosecuted after World War II, given that the crimes they were charged with weren’t criminal, as a matter of (German National Socialist) law.
Government morality seems to boil down to this: If you do not follow its laws, government workers will – ultimately – kill you.
A young man named Chase Allen, who was 25-years-old, is dead because of a chain of events that began when a government worker decided to enforce a law requiring his car (all cars) to be “registered” with the government. Chase did not believe he had a moral obligation to “register” his car with the government and so he didn’t, apparently.
You may think the government has the right to enforce such laws, though it is difficult to understand how “government” – which isn’t a living being – can have any rights at all. It certainly has power, of course – but then, so did the National Socialists in Germany."
Original report:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...
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Government is out of control.
Agents of government are not being trained to honor individual rights guaranteed by the US constitution.
Instead they are provided with military weapons and trained to shoot first and ask questions later.
He was being an idiot. Then (sure looked to me like) he pulled a gun out of a holster. I have trouble getting excited about this one, compared to innumerable others where the police shoot people under far more benign circumstances.
"You can't require me to register my vehicle"? Come on.
As the law is currently written, driving is a privilege, not a right.
As Chris Rock pointed out in his PSA the eight simple rules to follow:
"How not to get your ass kicked by the police"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mt...
> Obey the Law
> Use Common Sense
> Stop Immediately
> Turn That Shit Off
> Be Polite
> Shut The Fuck Up
> Get a White Friend
> Don't Ride With a Mad Women
I can't count the number of times I've been pulled over for traffic violations over the past 48 years.
"Yes Sir, No Sir" can make all the difference of getting off with a warning, or getting your ass kicked.
I got myself a few tickets, but never a beating.
Hint: If you want a warning, instead of a ticket, when the cop asks "Do you know why I pulled you over?" Be honest. Works almost every time.
At least now he knows how one particular guy feels about his disgusting filthy mouth.
In the context of 'who was harmed' by his action, the acts of the police were acts of tyranny.
Many acts of governments today are tyranny under the original constitution and bill of rights.
I still want to see the entire video. I saw no gun in his hand (or on his body) in the clip that was released.
If he had a gun and drew it in this situation behaving like that, he deserved death by cop.
I completely agree police often behave badly, they systematically abuse and somehow have “special rights” that civilians don’t get. For example they get out of speeding tickets, and in many states, can possess and vary firearms (even in retirement) that we “peasants” can’t have. Oh, all this and the highest instance of domestic violence of any profession. I just don’t see this as a likely example of that entitled behavior.
He may have acted foolishly, but the entire policing situation should be reassessed and
police should never put anyone in a position of pulling a gun when the only thing the
police are doing is collecting a tax for the looting scum in power.
I'd string up the guys who put the police in that position and set an example for petty tyrants everywhere.
Armed police should not be used for petty tax collection.
Speed traps should also be a felony, imo.
Why am I thinking Chase Allen wanted to "commit suicide by police."
I wouldn't have behaved the same. I would bend to the will of the government to stay alive. I'm a Civic Wimp in that regard. In a traffic stop situation. I think first of survival and not rights.
If we're dead we can't stand up for rights.
I have to say, despite the fact that he was murdered, he also won the Darwin Award. It's not only Black people who win the Darwin Award, White people do too.
I really can't take the side of the individual in this one. He acted brazenly stupid according to all accounts. There is a time and place to contest the legality of law enforcement actions and it ISN'T by trying to pull a gun on officers during a traffic stop.
I would claim the same thing, but in the sense I am a sovereign citizen such as those with inherent rights emanating from a larger source, but also humbly recognized as such by a compact amongst like minded sovereign citizens - i.e., the United States founding documents. Not the hollow, compromised caricature that passes as legitimately authorized government these days.
Not unless you want to die.
Why does the video cut away at that particular moment? Where is the rest of the supposed video showing a gun?
Show the entire video or be assumed to be lying because you are an armed government thug.
Reminds me of the pocket holster for my concealed carry pocket pistol.
I wouldn't suddenly move my hand toward any pocket. Even an empty one.
You're supposed to keep your hands in sight.
Once I was pulled over for an illegal U-turn.
Cop got spooked by the way I was eye-balling him in my left rear view mirror. Saw him unsnap his gun restraint on his holster.
So I stuck both my hands out the window. Kept them on the steering wheel when he reached me.
By then he was smiling. Let me go without a ticket.
At the end of their shift, cops want to go home to their families.
So either there is a problem with the actions, or the people who assembled the video just want to create confusion among the viewers - which happens a lot these days intentionally.
All that shooting definitely sounded fear-driven.
Maybe all that shooting alone was viewed as a PR problem for the violence and perhaps also a gory mess.
Nevertheless, that deprives us of complete transparency. I'll give you that.
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPPJ96QFfX4
It's still not clear since it is not the cam from the policeman who went inside to force out the driver, and this cam is blocked by that policeman.
Are they hiding something?
We don't know that either.
The police cams should be public record and the original digital video should be
available to determine if the cops overstepped or the guy killed was just foolish or both.
This could be another case of government agents hiding the evidence
- similar to the results of vaccine side effects, mask effectiveness, etc.
Without full disclosure, we don't know.
The police cams should be public record and the original digital video should be
available to determine if the cops overstepped or the guy killed was just foolish or both.
I agree with that.
The free individual is the only thing that stands in the way of tyranny.
The courts obviously have little if any concern for justice any longer.
The police close ranks and hide the evidence any time their actions are questionable.
The local authorities should just release all the video and the police should
make their case with all the evidence in view.
IF I had a link to the entire video I could watch it and decide for myself. The video in the link has been edited from several different sources.
"Police Chief Eric Johnsen shared a compilation of body camera footage from the five officers involved and dash camera video from the incident"
Police are human beings. They could be mistaken about seeing a gun and trying to hide that act.
Shouting "GUN,GUN,GUN" does not mean there was a gun in the hand of the driver.
It means that whoever started shouting thought he saw a gun, and others repeated what they heard.
The video is public record and the public should have full access, not just an edited version created by an unknown person.
If you are asking 'do I trust the police?', the answer is "NO."
Without that, society fails, because, simply put... Every bad outcome becomes a life-long Hatfield, McCoy situation (gang banger/competing gangs). In fact, even most gangs learned to "put their own out" for crossing some lines, to keep the peace. That's how obvious this is.
If your son killed my daughter, and I then kill your son, and then you kill my other son... I've watched this play out in Michigan with friends who were literally being killed attending the funeral of a murdered man, because they "killed" the person who did it, and the driver. The drivers family shot up the funeral, killing a couple more, wounding others.
Our society is FRAGILE at best. Only government employees should be subjected to that kind of retaliation (LOL).
by design
for more control of We the People
murder?
likely
This kid was stupid. Hands down. You do NOT draw a weapon.
I've seen plenty of videos where the police have to let the people go,
when they know the law. They can mail them a ticket.
The problem happens ONCE you "sign in" to the system, then you agree to abide by it's rules.
I am no expert, but I've been paying some attention to this.
Why did he think that he was being attacked by armed "thugs" and go for his gun? Probably because he had seen many previous examples of police shootings emanating like video stench from the provocative, hate-mongering, divisive, pro-violence media and (anti)social media
The kid did not reach for the gun which was on the floor. It is visible that his hands were always near the steering wheel and the door. He would have to lean over and down to reach the gun. He didn't. The policeman who saw the gun on the floor reacted to the fact that a gun was there. The kid made no mention of it, did not threaten to use it, and did not reach for it.
Don't try to educate the ignorant. Be polite and compliant. The state does not have the right to indebt your property and make you pay to use it, and that is irrelevant because every court will claim that right. The arguments for liberty in this situation cannot be won because of the current acceptance of the public and all levels of government declaring that it is their right.
Warrant Next time? What is he gonna do in between. How many warrants are there gonna be for all the illegal aliens in America who do not show up for their court date? At some point the warrants become useless paper.