Thanks, and of course you are correct about "MSMM". I forgot to include GGOL as alternative media--AFAIK, the last (and best) laissez-faire site.

"...But what they learned is the the USA took so much time to react..." Yeah! Holy smokes I'm glad it wasn't a real missile or something ultra fast like a WWI era biplane!

Freakin' Awesome, dino! LOL!

Nicely described, bubah1mau. I've been using the more sarcastic MSMM (Main Stream Marxist Media).

Just as an update on the suspension of Daines' Twitter account, here's the URL for a story on that containing the photo that provided pretext to got him suspended:
https://americanactionnews.com/breaki...

I posted part of my above comment, "More than anything the balloon incident was a probe to see how stupid, paralyzed, and moribund Biden's administration and the American people have become.", on Facebook at the "Californians for Trump" page, and got the message today that it was blocked by FB censors as "hate speech."

So obviously, some "alternative" media outlets are being screened by censors to try to make their sites conform to MSM standards.

Twitter is an interesting case as it was heavily censored to conform to MSM standards before Musk bought it. Now, perhaps not so conspicuous in its efforts to conform although this morning, on local TV news, I saw that Republican US Senator Steve Daines had his Twitter account suspended because of a photo he messaged showing him and his wife with a hunting trophy, maybe an African prong horn of some variety, in the field. So obviously some folks at Twitter are doing their best to keep Twitter in line with MSM standards--i.e. censor American nationalists and defenders of Constitutional liberties whenever possible.

Mainstream Media: generally the commonly accessed networks, especially ABC, CBS, NBC, but also including their subsidiaries and offshoots such as CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, (and, more recently, some would include FOX News, as they have banned much coverage of Trump, including his rallies). MSM Newspaper syndicates would include WaPo, NYTimes, LATimes, SFChron, Lee Enterprise newspapers, AP, Reuters, BBC, and quite a few more. Some would even include WSJ.

Sources that are not MSM, or "Alternative," would include Newsmax, NYPost, Epoch Times, AmericanWireNews.com, Washington Times, Daily Wire, Breitbart, BizPacReview, etc., and quite a few AM radio talk-show programs that have their own regular hosts (e.g. Rich Valdes who recently replaced Jim Bohannon after his death, and "Clay & Buck" who replaced Limbaugh after his death). Also YouTube and Facebook programs and podcasts that frequently contradict and oppose MSM reporting. Not all counter-MSM/"alternative" sources are conservative; for example, a wide variety of opinions can be found on Sirius XM that has hosted Howard Stern for about 17 years.

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I dont believe what we are told by our government. Sometimes we have to consider what makes sense and just go with that.
In this case, either the military knew about the drone as it corssed into the usa, OR they are just a bit stupid and werent looking at something that high. Either way, it doesnt look good for the USA.

Once it became public that there was a balloon, I think the military wanted to shoot it down and biden was the one who said to hold off. He needed to see what the chinese wanted us to do, which was probably to just let it go where it wants. Finally, biden had to cave in to public pressure and figured to crash it off the coast, but WITHIN the 12 mile limit of US aurhority. The chinese said ok, but that they would scream and yell and talk about retaliation.

They found out what the trial balloon was for, and they got their answer. Next one will have an EMP device or worse, and they will set it off.

What does MSM stand for?

It may have been a dumb way for the Chi-coms to try to get information. But that doesn't mean they weren't trying it. It am not sorry that Blinken's visit over there was canceled. I don't think we should have diplomatic relations with a totalitarian state. I was against it when Nixon brought it in in 1971, and I am against it now. I wouldn't put such an attempt past them. I am glad it was shot down, and think it should have been done sooner.

I think that the chinese flew a TRIAL BALLOON over the USA to assess how fast we would react and what we would do. Its pretty easy to figure their motive. If it was to deliver a bomb or EMP they would already have done it. But what they learned is the the USA took so much time to react that if it were an EMP device, china could have delivered the blow anytime they wanted.

Yes! Treason!

imo, it was treason.

The chi-cons are making a big fuss over a weather balloon. The media is making a big fuss over a weather balloon. The Pentagon is not. This whole thing is a tempest in a teacup designed to stir us all up like Pavlovian dogs. They've trained the masses well.

What bugs me is that the military knew the thing was aloft and approaching US airspace. Why wasn't it shot down the second it crossed into US airspace? Because Biden was told not to shoot it down - by the Chinese. And when he finally did shoot it down, it crashed into the Atlantic where the Chinese can salvage it. I don't for a moment believe the "well it could crash and hit something" nonsense.

Jamming takes a tremendous amount of power and a balloon that size can't carry a big enough source short of a radioactive one - which you know would create an incident.

Drone swarm? Problem - again - is battery power and its source. Have several extended family members who play with drones either recreationally or professionally (and the professional ones can't talk about what they do) and they're constantly griping about the actual flight times they can get - which isn't much. A common recreational drone about 12" square has only enough battery to fly for about 90 seconds while taking HD video.

Only really practical thing in a balloon like that is monitoring/surveillance electronics.

The alternative is we have no country worth defending, no military worth it's salt, No commander-in-chief with two working neurons to rub together.

Think about it.

We know Clinton sold proprietary wing technology to the Chinese while he was President and yet that action wasn't considered an "impeachable offense" ...

In Vietnam the VC put yellow ribbons in the trees up high so that the soldiers would look up right before stepping on a landmine.

Hey everybody! Look up at the balloon!!! Nothing to see down here.

Yes - reading messages sent from the balloon & also feeding disinfo should be SOP, basic spy vs spy ops having nothing to do w WH orders. President is considered a temporary office holder by agencies - not at the top of the security food chain. But who knows now??

Our crack MSM will surely ask Potato about the release Tues evening.

So, they took the aggressive move of shooting it down, and waited till it was out over the ocean, just in case it contained a bomb and should not fall on inhabited land areas? Looks like a test of U.S. fighting two countries simultaneously. That's some distraction.

Interfering/intercepting the data stream would have been possible, too.
A little time taken to analyse it and replace the stream with disinformation could explain the delay.
Just speculation without any evidence.
The military does have excellent resources on the 'ground' if the (likely corrupt)
managers ordered such a response.
Of course, if it was a news propaganda distraction instead, the delay would have
been intentional as long as needed for the hidden agenda.

Source on drone swarm??