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An Alternative Observation: The Chinese 'Spy Balloon' Story As Manufactured Crisis

Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 2 months ago to Politics
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A convenient distraction?
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"Previous constant headlines of the Ukraine-Russia war were put on pause Friday into Saturday as the American public's attention and discourse got temporarily consumed by the bizarre Chinese 'spy balloon' saga, which grew more dramatic by the hour until it was shot down by the Pentagon over the Atlantic Ocean.

But few are currently asking the necessary deeper questions related to the timing. Given the last major balloon crisis to take over 24/7 network news coverage ended up being a complete hoax (remember the "balloon boy" stunt of 2009 which had the world breathless and on edge for a full news cycle?), the current context to the Chinese balloon story and the question of cui bono is worth a deeper dive...

Entrepreneur and geopolitical commentator Arnaud Bertrand, who as a Westerner has spent many years living in China and frequently attempts to correct the often misleading analysis of mainstream press reports, offers an 'alternative view' of what's fast unfolding below [emphasis ZH's)..."
SOURCE URL: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinese-spy-balloon-story-manufactured-crisis-alternative-reading


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  • Posted by Dobrien 1 year, 2 months ago
    Irregular warfare . Interesting that Biden told the military Thursday to shoot it down and the military snubbed him . Two days later Trump “Truth socialed “ a message to SHOOT IT DOWN.
    next thing you know….
    This incident sure did not help Buy Dems cause.

    Just saying , but This technology of extremely high altitude surveillance 🎈 likely was stolen from US.
    What if BuyDem had top secret documents on high altitude surveillance?
    Pure speculation , but he had top secret documents.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 2 months ago
      For that matter, the Clintons could have sold that tech to the CCP years ago for a nice boost of bucks to the Clinton Foundation by their Chinese donors. Anyhow, what bothers me is the tech to transmit collected data in real time is nothing new, so why all the foot dragging in bringing it down? I mean, did our military really have to let it cross the WHOLE country before taking it out? Who the H_LL is in charge here?

      Your observation about foot dragging until Trump spoke up is a good one.
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      • Posted by 1 year, 2 months ago
        Interfering/intercepting the data stream would have been possible, too.
        A little time taken to analyse it and replace the stream with disinformation could explain the delay.
        Just speculation without any evidence.
        The military does have excellent resources on the 'ground' if the (likely corrupt)
        managers ordered such a response.
        Of course, if it was a news propaganda distraction instead, the delay would have
        been intentional as long as needed for the hidden agenda.
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        • Posted by mikeofallon 1 year, 2 months ago
          Yes - reading messages sent from the balloon & also feeding disinfo should be SOP, basic spy vs spy ops having nothing to do w WH orders. President is considered a temporary office holder by agencies - not at the top of the security food chain. But who knows now??
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  • Posted by Aeronca 1 year, 2 months ago
    In Vietnam the VC put yellow ribbons in the trees up high so that the soldiers would look up right before stepping on a landmine.

    Hey everybody! Look up at the balloon!!! Nothing to see down here.
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  • Posted by term2 1 year, 2 months ago
    I think that the chinese flew a TRIAL BALLOON over the USA to assess how fast we would react and what we would do. Its pretty easy to figure their motive. If it was to deliver a bomb or EMP they would already have done it. But what they learned is the the USA took so much time to react that if it were an EMP device, china could have delivered the blow anytime they wanted.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 2 months ago
      "...But what they learned is the the USA took so much time to react..." Yeah! Holy smokes I'm glad it wasn't a real missile or something ultra fast like a WWI era biplane!
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  • Posted by $ blarman 1 year, 2 months ago
    What bugs me is that the military knew the thing was aloft and approaching US airspace. Why wasn't it shot down the second it crossed into US airspace? Because Biden was told not to shoot it down - by the Chinese. And when he finally did shoot it down, it crashed into the Atlantic where the Chinese can salvage it. I don't for a moment believe the "well it could crash and hit something" nonsense.
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    • Posted by term2 1 year, 2 months ago
      I dont believe what we are told by our government. Sometimes we have to consider what makes sense and just go with that.
      In this case, either the military knew about the drone as it corssed into the usa, OR they are just a bit stupid and werent looking at something that high. Either way, it doesnt look good for the USA.

      Once it became public that there was a balloon, I think the military wanted to shoot it down and biden was the one who said to hold off. He needed to see what the chinese wanted us to do, which was probably to just let it go where it wants. Finally, biden had to cave in to public pressure and figured to crash it off the coast, but WITHIN the 12 mile limit of US aurhority. The chinese said ok, but that they would scream and yell and talk about retaliation.

      They found out what the trial balloon was for, and they got their answer. Next one will have an EMP device or worse, and they will set it off.
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  • Posted by bubah1mau 1 year, 2 months ago
    More than anything the balloon incident was a probe to see how stupid, paralyzed, and moribund Biden's administration and the American people have become.

    I think they got their answer as all MSM can come up with is the lame, smoke-screen charge that Trump had Chinese spy balloons flying and covered it up, or at least didn't shoot them down at all--where at least Biden finally got one shot down. (Bolton claims he never had any knowledge of any Chinese balloons in US airspace.)
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    • Posted by bubah1mau 1 year, 2 months ago
      I posted part of my above comment, "More than anything the balloon incident was a probe to see how stupid, paralyzed, and moribund Biden's administration and the American people have become.", on Facebook at the "Californians for Trump" page, and got the message today that it was blocked by FB censors as "hate speech."

      So obviously, some "alternative" media outlets are being screened by censors to try to make their sites conform to MSM standards.

      Twitter is an interesting case as it was heavily censored to conform to MSM standards before Musk bought it. Now, perhaps not so conspicuous in its efforts to conform although this morning, on local TV news, I saw that Republican US Senator Steve Daines had his Twitter account suspended because of a photo he messaged showing him and his wife with a hunting trophy, maybe an African prong horn of some variety, in the field. So obviously some folks at Twitter are doing their best to keep Twitter in line with MSM standards--i.e. censor American nationalists and defenders of Constitutional liberties whenever possible.
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    • Posted by LibertyBelle 1 year, 2 months ago
      What does MSM stand for?
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      • Posted by bubah1mau 1 year, 2 months ago
        Mainstream Media: generally the commonly accessed networks, especially ABC, CBS, NBC, but also including their subsidiaries and offshoots such as CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, (and, more recently, some would include FOX News, as they have banned much coverage of Trump, including his rallies). MSM Newspaper syndicates would include WaPo, NYTimes, LATimes, SFChron, Lee Enterprise newspapers, AP, Reuters, BBC, and quite a few more. Some would even include WSJ.

        Sources that are not MSM, or "Alternative," would include Newsmax, NYPost, Epoch Times, AmericanWireNews.com, Washington Times, Daily Wire, Breitbart, BizPacReview, etc., and quite a few AM radio talk-show programs that have their own regular hosts (e.g. Rich Valdes who recently replaced Jim Bohannon after his death, and "Clay & Buck" who replaced Limbaugh after his death). Also YouTube and Facebook programs and podcasts that frequently contradict and oppose MSM reporting. Not all counter-MSM/"alternative" sources are conservative; for example, a wide variety of opinions can be found on Sirius XM that has hosted Howard Stern for about 17 years.
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  • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 2 months ago
    it was a distraction
    but, it was also a test on several fronts

    it seemed to be guided, so there was a test of that concept

    it could also carry a drone swarm
    drones to attack our planes on the ground
    drones to jam missile silos closed
    drones to attack the power grid

    a test our our ability and willingness to respond

    a test of biden to follow orders from china, as the biden crime family is owned by china
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    • Posted by $ blarman 1 year, 2 months ago
      Jamming takes a tremendous amount of power and a balloon that size can't carry a big enough source short of a radioactive one - which you know would create an incident.

      Drone swarm? Problem - again - is battery power and its source. Have several extended family members who play with drones either recreationally or professionally (and the professional ones can't talk about what they do) and they're constantly griping about the actual flight times they can get - which isn't much. A common recreational drone about 12" square has only enough battery to fly for about 90 seconds while taking HD video.

      Only really practical thing in a balloon like that is monitoring/surveillance electronics.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 1 year, 2 months ago
    It may have been a dumb way for the Chi-coms to try to get information. But that doesn't mean they weren't trying it. It am not sorry that Blinken's visit over there was canceled. I don't think we should have diplomatic relations with a totalitarian state. I was against it when Nixon brought it in in 1971, and I am against it now. I wouldn't put such an attempt past them. I am glad it was shot down, and think it should have been done sooner.
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  • Posted by $ katrinam41 1 year, 2 months ago
    The chi-cons are making a big fuss over a weather balloon. The media is making a big fuss over a weather balloon. The Pentagon is not. This whole thing is a tempest in a teacup designed to stir us all up like Pavlovian dogs. They've trained the masses well.
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 2 months ago
    The alternative is we have no country worth defending, no military worth it's salt, No commander-in-chief with two working neurons to rub together.

    Think about it.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 1 year, 2 months ago
    So, they took the aggressive move of shooting it down, and waited till it was out over the ocean, just in case it contained a bomb and should not fall on inhabited land areas? Looks like a test of U.S. fighting two countries simultaneously. That's some distraction.
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