Get a bayonet!!!

With the price of BULLETS these days. After you wound them with the gun, just a little slice on the sides of the neck, insides of the thigh, and let father time run his course.

Washing the bayonet is much cheaper. Besides, when you are out of ammo... It's still a useful weapon! (especially if you are the only one who knows)

I think auditory weapons already exist (in government hands), but I don't know how effectively they can be aimed.

That is what I thought,..it would be number 1. If we were to believe the MSM.
So, you mean there is an outside chance they were telling the truth?

I think guns were a great investment in personal safety, but the hatred of guns by the government has made it much more difficult to actually use them for defense now without suffering major attacks from the government.

Its time to develop new weapons which will immobilize from a distance, but not kill the attackers. Foil the attacker, but not give them or the government the ability to drag us into court and perhaps jail us for a long time. Develop these and one would become rich before the government tries to make even these illegal to own.

10 The Springfield Armory Saint is an AR15 design.
I think that many AR15's are manufactured by small companies
so the total is spread over many companies.
If the total number of AR15's sold was included, it would probably be number 1.

...What!...no AR15?. Interesting

there are some reviews here that agree with that:
https://palmettostatearmory.com/liber...
(Palmetto does not have the best price, just some reviews.)

Agree Thor. I have a Canik Mete SFx, and it has an excellent trigger cycle. I shot combat competition
for many years, and it has for a striker fired pistol an incredibly tite reset.

Actually, I have an AR, but it isn't a real self starter, no kills, no job, no girlfriend. But I have seen it hanging out with the Lady Smith.
But at least it chose her instead of that sleazy CZ..

Eastern European guns smell like cabbage and are just after your ammo……

Thanks, Thor; I will.

And the hot coffee is a willing accomplice!
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Thanks, exitsr. 👍
That looks very good, 1.40/rd at present (plus shipping and tax.)
As Thor indictated, you don't need to stack them too deep ... yet.
I have liked the performance of Winchester Ranger T in reviews, too, but this would be an excellent one to load.

Ruger and Mossberg are just great companies.

Ruger is totally doing the Marlin line right, moving it, making the designs manufacturable, and doing one line at a time.

I really wanted a Ruger GP100 for my revolvers, but can't reach over the frame to the hammer with my thumb.

I'm shocked S&W hasn't given MA the bird yet. Colt is moving out of CT, and Mossberg did too.

I was all done with Colt after machining the seer-block out of an AR lower so I could put a normal upper on it, and finding out why they put them in. They had a Army general as CEO who though civilians should not own firearms. He was happy to screw them up like this, and only wanted military sales. When they lost AR manufacture due to poor quality, they almost went under. That company was a complete mess, surviving on name only ... until CZ bought them last year.

CZ from Czechoslovakia, the country that voted in their own, new 2nd Amendment a couple of years ago!!! Those people are minded like us, and disparately from Europe! CZ may turn the Colt-cesspool around.

I wondered about this. You only need 50-100 for self-defense. Can practice with normal ammo, right?

The Palmetto State Armory Dagger has received good reviews for an economy 9mm, too.

My FFL is a big Canik fan. He thinks they have the best triggers of striker-fired pistols. I haven't shot one, but have held and few and dry fired. Real nice.

I have a mental block against HKs. They are like BMWs. Nice, but expensive, snotty service, and from a country where you can't own them.

One of my soccer buddies who I got into shooting has a full size VP9. Nice gun!

I'm really in to CZ 75s. With my Shadow 2, I can put 4-5 mags into a 6" circle at 75 ft. Take a look at the CZ 75 compact. It feels SOOO good in your hand!

Sort of. I went with am 8 3/4 inch barrel. Looks like a big S&W 686 (which I love too).

Whatever you folks purchase, stay away from this one. Allosaur would have to come out of retirement and put it in prison.
https://youtu.be/3ZV9ZV5kHs0
And don’t even think about mugs….

I would've done the 500mag. However, the 460 shoots: 45 long colt, 45 Schofield, 454 Casul and 460 S&W. Nice flexibility.
These rounds in a lever are pretty awesome too.

I plan to range test a friend's 365 soon.
The XL extra inch probably adds 50fps and 50ft-lbs.
Plan to also try a Kimber Mako and a H&K VP9SK ... looking for a CCW.

Liberty Civil Defense mfgs a 9 mm 50 grain hollow point that scoots along at 2200 FPS in a SA pistol, 2600 FPS in a 16” carbine.
That is a game changer.
I reload and make cast bullets, but I can’t find a die set to cast this bullet, nor a bullets sales source. But for now, I buy LCD ammo for my back up, in case I’m attacked by angry mutant watermelons…

This one?
https://www.guns.com/news/reviews/rev...

Canik makes a nice 9mm pistol
inexpensive too
i love mine, i want another

nice option also