CO2 Sequestration Machine Debunked With Simple Math

Posted by Aeronca 10 months ago to Science
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I know a solar energy guru who ran a large company installing solar panels. He's an inventor and of course on the liberal side of things.

He showed me his latest invention to clean the CO2 out of the air. I listened patiently, wanting to yell. Then he sent me a CAD drawing and some specific numbers. I calmed down and decided I had to do some calculations to satisfy my doubt.

When I proved, as best I could, that his idea although interesting on a small scale, it not feasible on a global scale, he ignored what I did. Did not look at the numbers, he just kept dreaming of his wondrous invention.

Anybody who cares to check my calculations and assumptions would be appreciated.

His silence about my effort tells me he's unconcerned with the details, just like Cortex shows anger when we ask, How shall we pay for this?

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  • Posted by mccannon01 10 months ago
    When I was in third grade I enjoyed science projects with battery powered motors, lights, and crystal sets. When I saw a picture in a book of a hydro-power dam with a generator that supplied electricity to all sorts of things like lights and motors and toasters I got a brilliant idea! I made a drawing and showed it to my teacher. It depicted a motor driving a generator, which in turn supplied electricity to run the motor and other things - no need to build a power dam! He very patiently explained a third grade version of thermodynamics and I eventually "got it". It seems on some subjects your friend is still in the second grade.
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    • Posted by 10 months ago
      That's funny I had the idea too hooking a generator to a motor in a perpetually perfect way...
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 10 months ago
        Well, me dino just had a big fat memory jolt.
        Because this happened to little dino a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I can't remember if I saw the illustration in a comic strip or a comic book about Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon or whoever.
        What I saw that really sticks in me dinoo's memory bank was a drawing by a grown-up artist that looked this~~
        A future ridiculous prediction of powering a rocket ship was to put a great big generator (like one you'd see in the Hoover Dam) behind a much smaller living quarters with a pilot's seat up front.
        Even as a kid I could tell what was wrong with that picture. It was similar to drawing the interior of a car that included the motor and left out the gas tank.
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        • Posted by 10 months ago
          That car runs on Marxism.

          I can't stand the lack of scientific chemistry knowledge in climate "science." CO2 is the most stable form of carbon, completely oxidized. Entropy increases.

          Carbon, Oxygen, Coal, are at the top of a ski slope.
          CO2 is a boulder at the bottom of a ski slope.
          Boulders do not roll uphill.
          Boulders roll downhill.

          These climate jerks can't even understand gravity.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 months ago
    So? Have 55 million units. There are way more than 55 million computers. There are more than 550 million computers. That isn't the problem.

    How much power do the devices consume per unit mass of CO2, and where does that power come from? Where does the CO2 go? Converted back to oxygen and carbon?

    If it works, someone will pay for it. As long as it isn't my $, I don't care. Go get Sore-ass and Gates to fund the thing.
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  • Posted by mhubb 10 months ago
    Where Does the Carbon Dioxide Really Come From?
    Professor Ian Plimer could not have said it better!
    If you've read his book, you will agree this is a good summary.

    PLIMER: "Okay, here's the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland. Since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you.

    Of course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress - it’s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow, and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.

    I know.... it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kids "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50 cent light bulbs with $10.00 light bulbs..... well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.

    The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes, FOUR DAYS - by that volcano in Iceland has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at any one time - EVERY DAY.

    I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt. Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in all its years on earth.

    Yes, folks, Mt. Pinatubo was active for over one year - think about it.

    Of course, I shouldn't spoil this 'touchy-feely tree-hugging' moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keeps happening despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.

    And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud, but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year. Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you, on the basis of the bogus 'human-caused' climate-change scenario.

    Hey, isn't it interesting how they don't mention 'Global Warming' anymore, but just "Climate Change" - you know why?

    It's because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century, and these global warming bull**** artists got caught with their pants down. And, just keep in mind that you might yet be stuck with an Emissions Trading Scheme - that whopping new tax - imposed on you that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer.
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    • Posted by 10 months ago
      I thought the change from Global Warming to Climate Change was the usual suspect: The Left could not convince the Deniers that Global Warming was real. So they changed the name to Climate Change. How can anyone deny that the climate is changing? It changes every day, all day long! It's proven! Spike the football, touchdown!
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 months ago
      I'd love to validate the volcano assertion, but brief searching is not coming up positively.
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      • Posted by mhubb 10 months ago
        try this one

        questions for the followers of the human caused climate change religion

        how old are the glaciers said to be melting, millions of years??
        how old is the Earth??, 4.5 Billion years old

        so what was there before the "melting" glaciers?
        could there be cycles of glaciers forming and melting, long before human kind ever showed up??
        why is this cycle the work of Man and not nature??

        in the Sahara Desert are signs of people having lived in it, 4,000 to 5,000+ years ago
        cave painting show people and animals that can no longer live in the desert
        the climate changed, the desert formed, people moved to the Nile Valley and started the Egyptian civilization that created the Pyramids (along with other great structures
        again this happened BEFORE our tech civilization
        it is likely that over the past thousands of years the Sahara has gone from lush vegetation to desert over and over, the cycle repeating

        i won't mention the cycles of Ice Ages and melts, perhaps were are in between two Ice Ages now...
        likely so

        and on TV
        there is a show about bringing back animals from the last Ice Age
        the ground there is melting
        the fact is that those animals COULD NOT LIVE THERE if the land was ALWAYS frozen
        at some point that land was ice free, allowing animals to live and thrive there
        as it got colder, the animals changed and finally died off

        you followers of the Global Warming religion think history began only a few hundred years ago
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        • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 months ago
          I think you misunderstand my comment.

          I get all that, but it has nothing to do with CO2. I was looking for defense of the assertion of the relative volume of CO2 from volcanoes vs humans. That would demonstrate human-produced CO2 is a red herring. However, the paper I can find all disagree with our Australian comrade.
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