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“uh, Ukraine has, uh, biological research facilities.” -Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland

Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago to Politics
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"Self-anointed "fact-checkers” in the U.S. corporate press have spent two weeks mocking as disinformation and a false conspiracy theory the claim that Ukraine has biological weapons labs, either alone or with U.S. support. They never presented any evidence for their ruling — how could they possibly know? and how could they prove the negative? — but nonetheless they invoked their characteristically authoritative, above-it-all tone of self-assurance and self-arrogated right to decree the truth, definitively labelling such claims false.
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Unfortunately for this propaganda racket masquerading as neutral and high-minded fact-checking, the neocon official long in charge of U.S. policy in Ukraine testified on Monday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and strongly suggested that such claims are, at least in part, true. Yesterday afternoon, Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), hoping to debunk growing claims that there are chemical weapons labs in Ukraine, smugly asked Nuland: “Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?”

Rubio undoubtedly expected a flat denial by Nuland, thus providing further "proof” that such speculation is dastardly Fake News emanating from the Kremlin, the CCP and QAnon. Instead, Nuland did something completely uncharacteristic for her, for neocons, and for senior U.S. foreign policy officials: for some reason, she told a version of the truth. Her answer visibly stunned Rubio, who — as soon as he realized the damage she was doing to the U.S. messaging campaign by telling the truth — interrupted her ."


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    Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you Sir, that is much appreciated.
    My agenda is to try to Red Pill 💊 as many as I can.
    It is needed because the MSM has pulled the wool over so many eyes.
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    Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Hah, you are definitely NOT a Russian troll, Dobrien, but you do put ALL the facts on the table, whether they are liked or not. Good for you, I say!
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  • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Seems Fir the last 2weeks all i’ve Been doing is pointing out the fabrication and the lies about Putin and Ukraine story. Phony stories and lies that are so blatant yet still believed by too many.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Just pointing out that almost two weeks ago,
    I said there Bioweapon labs. I have been accused by a few (not you) on this board for being a Russian troll.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 1 month ago
    I just watched Tucker Carlson ream the MSMM for previously calling US backed bio labs in Ukraine a conspiracy theory or Russian disinformation. He did a good job of it. If I can relocate the YouTube video later I'll put up a title or link.
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  • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 1 month ago
    Late news, Russia informs US, we have the bio-weapons labs.

    .. Yes the ones that got put in 18 hours ago.
    The staff have diplomatic immunity, ok.
    But the material, would you like it back? How?
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    Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The article was posted to point out that the feds admitted, perhaps accidentally,
    that there are biolabs in Ukraine, which was exactly the opposite of the lies
    being told by the media, the administration, and the traitorous neocon CINO Sen. Rubio.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I do not understand your comment, DOB.
    The article was posted to point out that the feds admitted, perhaps accidentally,
    that there are biolabs in Ukraine, which was exactly the opposite of the lies
    being told by the media, the administration, and the traitorous neocon CINO Sen. Rubio.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago
    A Ukrainian Dozen #27
    Posted by $ Dobrien 1 week, 5 days ago to Entertainment
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    Here is my take, go ahead and call it fake.
    Match it up with the MSM Fake News , if you do you may find this and the memes , have more trues and clues for a reasoning mind to use.
    Ukraine The land of the Color Revolution designed by Norman L. Eisen , he is an American attorney, author, and former diplomat. He is a senior fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution, a CNN legal analyst, and the co-founder and executive chair of the States United Democracy Center. Great Credentials!!! He is the author of the “Playbook” how to over throw a govt. Now you actually have witnessed his game in 2020 election here.
    Eisen also sued Trump over 2 dozen x’s. He simulated a what if Trump doesn’t leave the office war games . Oh and the Brookings institute is tied the “spygate” , imagine that. Maybe the main stream media is telling you this info about Obama’s “ Ethics Czar” . Eisner did a good job , right ? as Hussein was soooo Ethical. Ukraine is one of the filthy cabals largest money laundering headquarters. Ukraine the Largest donor to the Clinton foundation ( need I say more?) George Soros formed not 1 but 2 anti-corruption NGO’s two decades ago. How has that worked out for the people ? Billions and Billions have poured from IMF and USAid to be dispersed to NGO’s the more humanitarian the name or the more WOKE the name the more $.
    Certainly there is ZERO accountability. The fake news is probably screeching about how we need to help those Ukrainian folks right now.
    Those NGO’s then donate to campaigns just like planned parenthood does with our tax dollars.

    U.S. bio labs (approx 8 of them) were also stationed there.

    Plenty of criminal activity in Ukraine involves, and is controlled by the filthy cabal. Ukraine’s current President was elected by the people, but like Trump, he too is fighting against the filthy cabal to no avail. Of course MSM is claiming that Putin is targeting innocent civilians. No he’s not. Note the 2 memesof an apartment that had a gas explosion and the same image as what the Russians attacked. He’s only blowing up targeted locations that need to go up in smoke. And once again… not our war! What if Putin will hand Trump EVIDENCE which will help DrainTheSwamp?
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  • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago
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    Posted by $ Dobrien 4 days, 10 hours ago
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    It’s Official – White House Ukraine Crisis is Manufactured – Pelosi Says if Russia Doesn’t Invade Ukraine, It Proves Strength and Brilliance of Joe Biden Policy. (Hang the Traitors.)

    It was multiple Bioweapon labs. I am glad to see you have such a strong opinion with little to no knowledge of the topic .Hahaha you are deluded if you think the UN is your friend. Put your thinking cap on.
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  • Posted by Aeronca 3 years, 1 month ago
    That was a great article. I sort of used to like Sen. Rubio. Not so much now that I see him comprising a cover-up on command impromptu. WOW.

    Thanks for the article.
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  • Posted by mhubb 3 years, 1 month ago
    i doubt it was a deliberate Russian attack on that hospital
    the media and governments cannot be trusted to tell us facts
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    Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
    Additional Excerpt:
    "At the very least, Nuland's surprising revelation reveals, yet again, just how heavily involved the U.S. Government is and for years has been in Ukraine, on the part of Russia's border which U.S. officials and scholars from across the spectrum have spent decades warning is the most sensitive and vulnerable for Moscow. It was Nuland herself, while working for Hillary Clinton and John Kerry's State Department under President Obama, who was heavily involved in what some call the 2014 revolution and others call the “coup” that resulted in a change of government in Ukraine from a Moscow-friendly regime to one far more favorable to the EU and the West. All of this took place as the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid $50,000 per month not to the son of a Ukrainian official but to Joe Biden's son, Hunter: a reflection of who wielded real power inside Ukraine.

    Nuland not only worked for both the Obama and Biden State Departments to run Ukraine policy (and, in many ways, Ukraine itself), but she also was Vice President Dick Cheney's deputy national security adviser and then President Bush's Ambassador to NATO. She comes from one of America's most prestigious neocon royal families; her husband, Robert Kagan, was a co-founder of the notorious neocon war-mongering group Project for the New American Century, which advocated regime change in Iraq long before 9/11. It was Kagan, along with liberal icon Bill Kristol, who (next to current editor-in-chief of The Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg), was most responsible for the lie that Saddam was working hand-in-hand with Al Qaeda, a lie that played a key role in convincing Americans to believe that Saddam was personally involved in the planning of 9/11.

    That a neocon like Nuland is admired and empowered regardless of the outcome of elections illustrates how unified and in lockstep the establishment wings of both parties are when it comes to questions of war, militarism and foreign policy. Indeed, Nuland's husband, Robert Kagan, was signaling that neocons would likely support Hillary Clinton for president — doing so in 2014, long before anyone imagined Trump as her opponent — based on the recognition that the Democratic Party was now more hospitable to neocon ideology than the GOP, where Ron Paul and then Trump's neo-isolationism was growing.

    You can vote against neocons all you want, but they never go away. The fact that a member of one of the most powerful neocon families in the U.S. has been running Ukraine policy for the U.S. for years — having gone from Dick Cheney to Hillary Clinton and Obama and now to Biden — underscores how little dissent there is in Washington on such questions. It is Nuland's extensive experience in wielding power in Washington that makes her confession yesterday so startling: it is the sort of thing people like her lie about and conceal, not admit. But now that she did admit it, it is crucial that this revelation not be buried and forgotten."
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