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Start Taking Secession Seriously

Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago to Philosophy
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Excerpt:
"The Left's Unionists Want to Run Your Life
A second reason to take secession seriously is the fact that the Left doesn't seem to be learning anything from the rise of separatism. Just as many Americans appear to be embracing a posture in opposition to rule from the center, the Left is doubling down on the idea that more local autonomy is not to be tolerated.

A clear example of this is the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act introduced in the US Senate. The legislation, if passed, would give Washington vast new powers in regulating and controlling how states conduct their own elections. Originally, of course, state governments had almost total control over how elections were governed and conducted within each state. This makes sense in a country that began as a collection of sovereign republics. Just as EU member states conduct their elections in a way that's locally controlled, the same was once true for the US. Over time—as in most policy areas—the federal government asserted more control. But with the Voting Rights Advancement Act, local control over elections would be virtually abolished, with most any changes subject to a federal imprimatur.

Naturally, opposition to surrendering state elections to federal control is denounced as motivated by racism and other nefarious goals. And this is reflective of the Left's opposition to secession and decentralization in general. The idea is "we can't let those people run their own affairs, because they're sure to use local prerogatives for evil."

For example, when condemning secession in New York magazine, Democratic strategist Ed Kilgore made it clear he has no intention of letting people do much of anything without federal "oversight." He writes:

So might we drift apart more or less peacefully this time around? Possibly, but count me out when it comes to agreeing to a National Divorce…. [H]ow could I happily accept the accelerated subjugation of women and people of color in a new, adjacent Red America, any more than abolitionists could accept the continuation and expansion of the slavery they hated? Would it really be safe to live near a carbon-mad country in which the denial of climate change was an article of faith? And could I ever trust that a "neighbor" whose leadership and citizens believed their policies reflected the unchanging ancient will of the Almighty would leave our fences intact?

Kilgore can barely contain his contempt. He might as well be saying, "If those red state troglodytes are allowed freedom, they'll surely embrace a racist and misogynistic dystopia that fills the air with poisonous fumes. These are religious zealots, after all!"

Anyone who doesn't want to live out his or her life as subject to the whims of men like Kilgore should take his few moments of candor as an ominous warning. These people will never "happily accept" self-governance outside Washington's purview, because they quite literally equate it with slavery and the hatred of women.

In other words, the more the Left condemns secession in detail—as they must now do because dismissive scoffing no longer works—they only provide additional reasons for why secession is likely the only real solution to the national divide."


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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The last 'good' mayor of San Antonio was a lady! When the lights went out all over town (oh I like that) she deployed a police cruiser to the top of the highest bldg in San Antonio to act as an antenna and contact was made even though the lights were out. I was attending a State meeting of the League of Cities...all city council members. The police were out in the streets with flashlights. Elevators didn't work in the hotel. My husband drove from Houston to SA...knocked on the door of my hotel room, came in and asked if I was okay, kissed me and drove back to Houston. (400mile round trip). He had to be at work the next day! Our mayor (who didn't particularly like me) was really impressed! He got a lot nicer after that.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Okay but look who is Mayor of Houston. He ran so many times they elected him to shut him up. FEMA is now withholding funds from Houston because he gave all of the last received money to his buddies on funny contracts. You get what you vote for!
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  • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry about your dog. I can still shovel snow, but it's getting harder and I have to take more frequent breaks.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Too old to shovel snow. Took my back several days to recover from burying our dog last month (with no snow.)
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  • Posted by 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The term has suffered redefinitions over time, I think. It is better expressed as 'states powers' as it is in the Tenth Amendment. Those powers should also be limited to protecting the rights of the people from the powers of the state. (imo)
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  • Posted by 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately, it 'sells' with the majority of 'voters' in Austin, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio. (Not yet with the majority in the state of Texas.)
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am a devotee of Ayn Rand but I am a Texian... look up the definition...both sides of my family came here in the early 1830's. They, however, did not fight at the Alamo. But to us 'State's Rights' means State's rights. Not in any way meaning 'right of some men to violate the rights of others'. That would never sell in Texas.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 3 years, 6 months ago
    I do not want everything controlled by the Federal government. But neither do I want the citizen handed over to be a serf of his state government. Ayn Rand said the the term "states' rights" was a "contradiction in terms; there can be no such thing as the 'right' of some men to violate the rights of others." She also said that the term "individual rights" was a redundancy; there is no other kind of rights and no one else to possess them."
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  • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 6 months ago
    My earlier post didn't address secession as in the author noting: "...living in denial about secession won't improve things. And, of course, the matter of secession is not one of "if" but "when."..." Historically I agree with the author as he continues on with pointing out the breakup of Rome, etc.

    So, what of an American breakup? I dare say it will likely be messy with a number of new countries emerging because geographically creating two (one red and one blue) new nations like a Union and Confederacy in the past is not likely at all. If one looks at a two color county map of the US you see an awful lot of red with a smattering of blue islands. Even more, many of the blue and red designated areas are actually purple as their populations are divided more evenly. It will be messy.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 6 months ago
    From the above: "...[H]ow could I happily accept the accelerated subjugation of women and people of color in a new, adjacent Red America, any more than abolitionists could accept the continuation and expansion of the slavery they hated?" The premise is false in as much the Neo Communists (Blue areas), like the Ed Kilgores, are obsessed with superficial traits like skin color and whats between the legs, where Free America (Red areas) really don't give a damn about those things as long as we all get along. Followed with: "Would it really be safe to live near a carbon-mad country in which the denial of climate change was an article of faith?" Again a false premise where the man made climate change religion IS an article of faith adopted by the Neo Communists who have no tolerance for anyone not genuflecting to their chosen dogma.

    "Anyone who doesn't want to live out his or her life as subject to the whims of men like Kilgore should take his few moments of candor as an ominous warning." And Kilgore isn't the only Neo Communist broadcasting the warning.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know the answer, but I LMAO yesterday at the Polls when I saw a speaker attached to a parking indicator and a sign that read "Curbside Voting Available Use Phone for help". I don't know why, but it struck me as humorous considering all the baloney we've been through. A little light humor. The last time I voted I'd forgotten to eat and fortunately one of the ladies had some of those little candy bars and gave me three. This time there were bowls of little candy bars sitting around the voting area. Lovely!
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    Posted by 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Secession as a remedy to election fraud is the one I'm supporting, if I can convince someone with the courage to introduce it.
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    Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 6 months ago
    We voted on 8 Propositions in Texas yesterday. One was to prohibit trying to keep us from our churches. Another was to limit school taxes along with our Homestead Exemption should the primary person die to his or her survivor if the primary was 65 and the survivor 55. A really great one was to award a waiver of school taxes to the survivor if someone in the military died while in combat. And I loved the one that prohibits a hospital or nursing care home from blocking the patient's visits by his/her designated person t o visit. Not a bad day's work.
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