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Stick a Fork in California

Posted by Abaco 3 years, 9 months ago to Culture
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It's done. California is dead. I see on social media the dumbest people I know are passionately attacking people who express disappointment in the failure to recall the Gov. The place is a cesspool. They've taken one of the most beautiful places in the world and turned it into a collectivist, feces-polluted mess. Now, finally, my wife is talking of leaving. We have our place in Nevada which I love. But, we're really looking at Arizona, Florida and the Carolinas. Any input appreciated. I even said I'd consider the place where my dad's side came from - Oklahoma. It's a quiet place with a simpler life, and centrally located for my consulting work.

I'm going to have to clean up some real estate and sell it and I plan to have that done by next summer. The only relative with my last name who will remain in California is the guy who smokes tons of weed and doesn't work. That's fitting...


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  • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The NC Coast has been invaded by Yankee (and some west coast) leftists for decades.
    I spent wonderful times there in the 50's-80's, but it ended when Nabisco (NYC) bought RJR (Winston Salem NC)
    and the Yankee invasion became a flood.
    Note today's headline about leftist "doctors" discussing how they need to frighten more people into getting jabbed is happening in Wilmington NC.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The area is geographically pleasing. BUT..too close to the border. I would not live anywhere close to the border....300 miles.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 9 months ago
    I used to live in california. It was a land of opportunity in the 70's and 80's. I moved out in 2000 as it was headed to disaster. I havent been back since, and sold whatevere real estate I had there and moved my business to Nevada.

    Since then, Nevada has been infiltrated by the california mentality, so I wouldnt suggest people move here now- assuming that one was going to move FROM california to somewhere better. Texas, Florida woul be better bets. Arizona is slowly slipping into the statist camp, so although better than Nevada presently, it wont stay that way.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 9 months ago
    I'd advise Oklahoma, but act quickly. It's high on the list of reliable conservative states, and many leaving blue states are driving the home costs up rapidly.
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  • Posted by katrinam41 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    After spending 12 years living aboard a 30' sailboat and raising two active kids at the same time, I hate seeing what progressive policies have done to a magnificent state. Eastern Washington is a good alternative if you can avoid government interference long enough for the collapse to happen. North-eastern end is way too dry, but there are places to live. I love the coast around Hoquim and north, bit the San Juan fault makes me a bit nervous :)
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  • Posted by SheelaVegas 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why the Colorado comment. I am actually seriously interested in Ouray (Galt's Gulch) or Telluride. I live in Las Vegas right now. Too many wackos.
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  • Posted by katrinam41 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Normal progressives of all stripes will, but Russia has a walk-on part up there. Things will get a bit dicey once our country collapses. Alaska is a great place, with a temperate zone that grows huge crops, but the storms start arriving in September. Nasty biting flies, no-see-ums that will drive any mammal mad, subsistence hunting and fishing for residents, but land prices are rising fast. I spent two summers up there as bookkeeper/ office manager for two different canneries and I loved it. Too hard now for this old bod to handle.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes OK has tornadoes, but I was up there six years and the scariest thing I experienced was an earthquake.... 5.2, I believe.

    But then I grew up in North and East Texas, where tornadoes are basically yawn-worthy. To rephrase; the tornadoes themselves are sometimes big and dangerous, just like Oklahoma, but you learn to live with it. We did have a small tornado a block north of me in OK, but it was really no big deal!

    Every state has something to be "afraid" of. Don't fall for that.
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  • Posted by NealS 3 years, 9 months ago
    And all this disgusting California election results is being perpetuated by another stolen election. I've seen reports that 70% (hard to believe, would rather see the real facts) of Republican voters had claimed that they were told they had already voted on this recall. While that is hard to believe, I do believe that the corruption and crooked voting is a real issue, so big, so gross, and over the top, that most people can/will not believe it. It just accepted as that's just the way it is. And it's that way even in supposed Democratic states. How can you talk to so many people that appear to think the same way you do, and yet a minority of opinion keeps electing the same leaders and representatives over and over again? It's been going on for so long we just can't recognize it.

    My fear is the things that come out of the Durham Report, if it ever comes out, will be argued with rhetoric and overall just ignored. We need to get back the "rule of law", and public executions, or this country is gone, if it already isn't. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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  • Posted by JohnWesley 3 years, 9 months ago
    PAY ATTENTION! It seems some of us are just now waking to the truth. California may be the largest pimple to pop but ALL of America has incurable acne.
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  • Posted by preimert1 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I went through Nay flight training in Pensacola (then daned training in Corpu). White sandy beach that runched under foot--and YOUTH! Open beach from Pensy to Ft. Walton. Everything changes overr time. Hang on to the memories.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks. I have not ruled out eastern Washington. I lived in the Puget Sound area a few times. I liked it except until it became overcrowded and gridlocked. The weather in Puget Sound would drive my family crazy, I think.
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  • Posted by katrinam41 3 years, 9 months ago
    Best case for decent climate and beautiful, productive land would be Washington State, but getting rid of parasites would be a large problem. My own research over the past few years finds similar political conditions all over, livable conditions are getting harder to find because of that. Wyoming is top of the list in several categories, followed by Oklahoma (hubby disagrees--tornados scare him), South Dakota, Texas, Tennessee (family members like that one, as long as it's in the mountains). I am pulling together a list of rv parks in each state on the list, with a trip planned for early next year to get a first-hand look at the areas I have in mind.
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  • Posted by nanovation 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is good advice. When price controls go into place on food, farmers are going to stop growing it, and people will starve. With that in mind, go where you have water and can grow your own food. Homestead of 100 years ago is ideal. Not much to do out there, but at least you'll be able to feed your family while the cities riot and burn.

    Also, commies hate to work, so I recommend moving somewhere that requires work to survive, like Alaska, as commies will avoid it like the plague.
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  • Posted by $ splumb 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Before too much time has passed, I don't think there will be anyplace to hide.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 3 years, 9 months ago
    This recall election and the 2020 presidential election have proven (at least to me) that the Republic is dead. Sad to say it's much bigger than California.
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  • Posted by drjmetz 3 years, 9 months ago
    I advise you to avoid mentioning that you are coming from California. Emigrants from there have made a really bad name for themselves in their new adoptive cities and states.
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  • Posted by pkundl 3 years, 9 months ago
    Just an FYI - People coming from the northern states (NY,NJ, PA) have driven up housing pricing thru the roof, if you can find anything at all here in the Carolinas..
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  • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have only visited the Corpus/North Padre Area briefly, about 20 years ago. I was looking for a place to live and was considering that area. It didn't satisfy my needs at that time.
    I'm not sure that anyplace in the US would be satisfactory to me today given the corrupt fedgov, but government is an enemy everywhere that I have been in the world. The grass sometimes looks greener, but often beneath the surface are the same problems.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't know about the Pensacola beach but the only time I ever saw gray water at Panama City was when it reflected an overcast sky.
    The Panhandle is as hot and humid as Alabama but when I was younger I was more used to it. Summer jobs during the Sixties often consisteed of loading and unloading boxcars and 18-wheeler trailers. Hot work? Hell yeah! Couldn't do it now. Now I an old dino lots more need my AC!
    Don't recall horseflies at Panama City Beach. At what used to be my secondary home at Compass Lake, Florida, halfway between Panama City and Alabama, horseflies? Yeah!
    Especially in August. Worse were halfway as big yellow flies that can light on your skin three or four times before you felt those itchy bites. Don't recall any biting gnats. They can get all in your face if you're working outside, though. There's bug repellent for that. There's snakes and alligators, but they never bothered me when I went swimming. Even when I spearfished breathing through a snorkel and wearing flippers
    Heard the police cleaned up drinking in Panama City. Drinks aren't allowed on the beach but don't tell that to a lawbreaker.
    Overpriced condos that weren't there when I was a kid? They ruin my memories of better times.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Funny....I just texted my buddy in the Dallas area about that area - Corpus and Portland. Any input, Freedomforall?
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