If Trump, or another non-Dem, wins in 2024--does S. Africa reoccur here in US?

Posted by bubah1mau 2 months ago to Politics
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Recent events in S. Africa could be the future of the US--under certain conditions. (See the ZeroHedge article.)
SOURCE URL: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/america-only-one-step-away-south-african-style-social-implosion


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  • Posted by mhubb 2 months ago
    BLM and other commie traitors think they will win
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    • Posted by mccannon01 2 months ago
      The problem is, IMHO, right now they are winning and I don't see much slowing them down.
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      • Posted by mhubb 2 months ago
        agreed
        but their path leads to bankruptcy for the nation and world, not that they care

        me, i feel bad for my step-grandkids
        even though some of their parents buy into this insanity
        no one that could stop this mess acted
        the Oath Keeper have failed to keep their Oath, too busy watching football (you know, watching those that hate us Americans)

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        • Posted by mccannon01 2 months ago
          There's the rub, mhubb. The younger generation, even in my own family, are bringing and keeping the Neo Communists in office. When I hear them complain, I ask, "Did you vote Democrat?" and when they answer, "Yes.", then I tell them to quit your bitchin' because you're getting what you voted for. If they try to argue I just remind them I'm an old guy and no longer care about the hell they are bringing on themselves because I'll be dead and they will have to lie in the bed they made.
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  • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 2 months ago
    Don’t fall for the Fake Left and the Fake Right paradigm.
    Swamp thing was NOT based. He had 4 years to clean house and didn’t do it. Was he afraid the Twitterati would tweet mean things about him?
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    • Posted by 2 months ago
      Never noticed Trump trying to enact gun registration or regiment gun sales. Trying to restrict or confiscate guns is the litmus test for dictators, dictator wannabes. Sorry you don't see any significant difference between Trump and Biden.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 2 months ago
    I think we already had that phase in 2020.
    If the GOP wins back the con-gress and the POTUS, then they will continue to follow the same old path: big government spending and bankruptcy.
    Of course, GOP control is not likely because the left still counts the votes.
    There are no heroes in DC. None of them have the guts to do what is required for solvency.
    Unless there is a reversal of the 2020 election results, this is already a banana dictatorship.
    The American people are slaves.
    It will take armed action by patriots to change that. Riots are nothing by comparison.
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    • Posted by 2 months ago
      It seems that most of those who posted on this topic don't think the GOP has any real chance of winning in 2024, or that a GOP victory would have startling or phenomenal consequences.

      I suggest here that Trump remains anathema to the violent, race-driven SJW elements in this nation, and that a 2024 Trump victory would have the same result as a full and total acquittal of Derek Chauvin in the George Floyd case. I'd like to know if anyone here can imagine what insanity would have transpired in nearly all major US cities in that event.

      Brandon Smith, author of the linked article, most assuredly does—and points analogously at recent scenes in S. Africa.

      If Trump or another Trump-approved GOP nominee wins the White House in 2024, then the "armed action by patriots" you suggest will probably be focused on just keeping the enraged BLM / ANTIFA mobs at bay and out of their own neighborhoods—just as whites and east Indians were recently doing in Durban and Johannesburg suburbs.

      That isn't exactly the point Brandon Smith was making. Smith didn't seem to know what would touch off rioting à la S. Africa here in the US, but it doesn't take much to put two plus two together and foresee that a Trump victory in 2024 is what would surely fulfill Smith's premonitions.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 2 months ago
        I guess I wasn't clear enough. I have no confidence in the election process. Unless there is a reversal of the 2020 election results, and a complete overhaul of the vote counting and vote casting mechanism, the deep state will count the votes in 2024 and our votes are meaningless.

        If deep state counts the votes as they did in 2020, and Trump isn't deep state, then he has no chance to be declared the winner in 2024. If there is another GOP candidate, it is likely that they will be deep state controlled just as the Dem candidates are. The candidates for con-gress are virtually all deep state controlled selections. The choices for judges are virtually all deep state controlled selections.
        The federal government is controlled by corrupt looters.

        Armed action by patriots is the only way that freedom will be regained and the constitution obeyed, imo.
        War or serfdom. That is the choice.
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        • Posted by 2 months ago
          I don't share your nonconfidence that Trump (or a non-deep-state, Trump-endorsed facsimile) can be reelected in 2024 on essentially the same populist-nationalist platform that got Trump elected in 2016—even with deep-state, SJW types collecting and counting blue-state ballots.

          Montana, for example, is more solidly Trumpist since the 2020 election than in 2016, including landslide Democrat governorship elimination. Montana is now a Constitutional Carry state thanks to 2020—never would have happened under a Democrat (deep-state) governor like Gianforte's predecessor Bullock.

          I sincerely believe that many other states, as many as 20, have enacted serious election reform that will eliminate many 2020 abuses (eg. SJW ballot harvesting/curing and zero-ID ballots). So I think my vote, at least, will be even more secure than it was in either 2016 or 2020. I don't share your pessimism about that particular point—that people’s votes necessarily mean nothing in the future.

          Having been screwed once in 2020 in several swing states, I doubt Trumpists will be caught quite so flatfooted next time around. But we may not need wait for 2024 to address Brandon Smith's premonitions. If deep-state SJWs aren't happy about 2022 election results, Smith's S. African scenario may materialize in front of our eyes sooner than either of us thought possible.

          This leads to a Götterdämmerung scenario closer to what you apparently envision: the Biden administration overplays its hand and crams too many SJ-agenda reforms (e.g. CRT, "transgender equality," “restitution,” semiauto handgun/rifle confiscation, etc.) onto an already simmering Trumpist electorate—or seizes upon fomented South-African-style riots after losing an election to Trump/Trumpists as a last-ditch, martial-law mandate to impose those SJ agenda “reforms” by armed force. Then I would expect the type of "armed action by patriots" that you refer to.

          In any event I believe we will first see Brandon Smith's South African-style rioting in major US cities--and sooner than many thought possible. .
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