Rational Self-Interest vs. Self-Serving

Posted by khalling 12 years, 1 month ago to Philosophy
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I am having a little debate with an Objectivist, about this sentence in our book.

"He was being protected by the immoral, self-serving culture of Washington DC. Hank’s face flushed with anger.”

Do you see a problem with using "self-serving" next to "immoral" ? If so, what other word(s) might you use in place of "self-serving."

We were attempting to get across the 'we'll save our own tribe' culture of government. it's not crony-because we want to just focus on from within the government. We saw it last week, with many republicans like Sen. Rubio, backing McConnell's actions. Or I wonder how many park rangers relished the high handed tactics of keeping citizens from using their own property, etc.
I would appreciate your thoughts on this.



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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years, 1 month ago
    Well you want a word that implies the person operates from a false premise using a bait and switch tactic. Offers you the carrot to beat you with the stick? Sorry, I can’t think of a word for this, but I’m sure Terry Pratchett could.
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  • Posted by Rozar 12 years, 1 month ago
    Don't read the book like it's Holy and infallible. I think it's best to get the moral and move on.

    That being said self serving is immoral if you are using others involuntarily to serve yourself. Also self serving can be irrational and thus immoral.

    You could have put slave culture maybe?
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 12 years, 1 month ago
    self-perpetuating ?

    adjective 1. continuing oneself in office, rank, etc., beyond the normal limit. 2. capable of indefinite continuation.
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  • Posted by LionelHutz 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I'd say in representing government, the primary focus should be on faithfully discharging your duties according to the oath of office. I think it handles the conflict you speak of regardless of whether the representative personally benefits from the immorality or not.
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  • Posted by LionelHutz 12 years, 1 month ago
    I don't see a problem with it. The people in Washington DC were sent there on the premise they were representing the interests of others (their state). When they get there and are self-serving, it is immoral. It's not immoral to be self-serving, but it is immoral to say you're going to go there to represent me, but instead you go there to represent yourself.
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  • Posted by 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    an Objectivist might say even in representing government, you should use your rational self interest. You may represent your constituents, but if they wanted you to do something immoral should you?
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