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  • Posted by 1 week, 5 days ago
    $80 a month for insurance if you own a gun? Is this per gun or do you get a group rate for owning more than one?
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    • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 6 days, 15 hours ago
      I intend to pay exactly what I have for the past 50 years ... drum roll ...ZERO! What I have in the way of personal possessions is none of the government's damned business. Lexington and Concord is coming again, I think.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 1 week, 1 day ago
      Where did you get that number? From the bill:

      “(d) Firearm Insurance.—

      “(1) IN GENERAL.—The Attorney General shall issue to any person who has applied for a license pursuant to subsection (c) and has paid to the Attorney General the fee specified in paragraph (2) of this subsection a policy that insures the person against liability for losses and damages resulting from the use of any firearm by the person during the 1-year period that begins with the date the policy is issued.

      “(2) FEE.—The fee specified in this paragraph is $800.”.

      https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-c...
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  • Posted by NealS 1 week, 1 day ago
    I guess the theory is the more money the government can take from you the safer your guns will be. I'll just have to become a criminal. Notice too that the SCOTUS recently said something about having to commit the crime before you can be charged or tried for it. Wasn't that the basis for not looking into voter fraud? It was like you have to prove something actually took place before you take it to court. I alway thought it was the up to the court to decide on the proof when the parties couldn't agree. So that must make the SCOTUS a political party now.

    This bill could only result in hundreds of thousands of new criminals in this country. Maybe we should devote our prisons to the innocent people, since they are letting the guilty go free now.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 1 week, 1 day ago
      "...thousands of new criminals in this country." Actually, millions.

      My guess is the black market in arms and ammo to the gangs and criminals is going to expand immensely when all the new "criminals" are added to the consumer rolls. Prohibition anyone?
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  • Posted by term2 1 week, 1 day ago
    The democrats platform is to increase governmental income and power- thats it in a nutshell. What they do is not the important thing- its how much power it gives them.
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  • Posted by chad 1 week, 1 day ago
    The insurance fee is to be provided to the federal government and there is no indication in the bill as to what damage it might cover or protection the insurance will provide. The "law" will require all information about weapons and ammunition be provided and then distributed to all government agencies. If any person or people they know or associate is deemed unfit their property (weapons) will be seized. If you lend your weapon to anyone else you must specify to whom, when, why and when it will be returned.
    Any government that fears its armed citizens should be feared and avoided.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 1 day ago
    Me dino does not think Beijing JoeBama's Marxist handlers (who prepares his executive orders) care far more about their power and control of the We The People they despise than with whatever the heck happens to the economy.
    As for immigration, they WANT it to overflow to obtain future voters to obtain one party rule forever.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 5 days, 15 hours ago
    I talked to the local gun range and found out that the ATF form that you fill out when purchasing a firearm doesn't go any where. Also, if you have purchased a firearm and that has went out out business those records either go into storage or destroyed. If anyone in the Gulch knows anything different I would like to know.
    So, the Feds would have to sue or physically seize sales records from every firearms supplier and gun range in the US. So, I doubt that if that bill so how manages to get through the House & Senate then signed by mindless JB that they would send out ATF/FBI agents to such invasive seizures. That scenario could be very well be unconstitutional. The alternative is that every legal firearm owner if to bury them in a waterproof storage locker deep enough not to be detected by a Fed metal detector.
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