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  • Posted by 1 month ago
    A 16 year old cannot be tried as an adult in Texas, but Pelosi & her cartel want them to vote? Give me a break!
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 1 month ago
      Yep, she knows how impressionable they are, and how good "free stuff" looks to them. Many/most of them have no real understanding of earning one's own way. And if they can vote the proceeds of the treasury to themselves, they'll do it in a heartbeat. In short, young people WILL vote D, almost as a whole.

      I was listening to Shelia Jackson (the D. Houston Rep) talk this morning on the news about all the wonderful stuff her district is getting from this new "rescue" package. What a shameful person she is, promulgating a shameful, immoral law.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 1 month ago
    The Founders originally wanted voting restricted to those who were property owners or held steady jobs, regardless of age, as that was considered to be a sign of maturity and responsibility. It was also logical in their minds, because any law which placed tariffs or fees on financial activities would affect those people, who should have a right to decide on them. Very logical and non-progressive.
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  • Posted by chad 1 month ago
    How to wisely choose leaders is a question for the ages. Is there such a thing as a benevolent dictator? How do you find them?
    Perhaps the only way to avoid the problem is to not choose someone.
    As far as who should choose, being old enough does nothing to guarantee that people choose wisely. Therefore the only wise choice would be to have a contract with the governing officials that could be enforced against those who claim authority; such as a constitution. Which America has but it has been turned on its head and is now used to enforce the demands of the governors on the governed.
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    • Posted by $ TomB666 1 month ago
      You'll think I'm crazy but think about this: What if we drafted people to serve in government? People over xx years of age drafted for a 2 or 3 year hitch just like we used to do for the military. I know we'd get some idiots but don't we get them now?
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      • Posted by Rex_Little 1 month ago
        This brings to mind the system Robert Heinlein portrayed in Starship Troopers. A person could only vote after serving a term of government service--and they could not choose the service. They might be assigned to paper-pushing--or they might be in the Infantry.
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        • Posted by freedomforall 1 month ago
          Heinlein was a brilliant writer. He is by far my favorite sci-fi writer. (Note that Heinlein wanted a career in the Navy, but his physical condition got in the way and he became a writer to pay his bills. )
          On occasion, in his writing, Heinlein made a naive suggestion. This was one of those occasions. While service to the country could be an admirable trait and might provide some useful experience, there is no correlation of service to ability to think rationally about political issues. Starship Troopers was,iirc, a voluntary system, however.
          Drafting people is using force and suppressing free will. It is the way of dictators, not free people.
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      • Posted by chad 1 month ago
        Suppose at the end of each term (before they were allowed to run for re-election) each congressman, judiciary or executive were put on trial and if found in violation of the contract (constitution) they were sworn to uphold they would be imprisoned for a minimum term of twice what their term of office had been and disallowed from every running for office again?
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  • Posted by walkabout 1 month ago
    The biological and psychological data are very clear. Children are not "done" becoming adults (the developmental processes of brain and body) until somewhere around the age of 25), thus they shooul NOT be allowed to do many "adult" things until at least that age. In that vein Voting tops the list followed by breeding.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 1 month ago
    Yep. Things are bad enough, but now adolescents (the real ones, not the older ones that haven't grown out of it yet) will be handed the nations wallet.

    Actually, the way the Marxists are heading in this country the winning candidates will be pre-selected by the Party and elections won't matter anyway. Elections will continue to be held and require mandatory participation, but won't actually do anything but make the sheeple believe or pretend they've done something.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 1 month ago
      Winning candidates have been pre-selected for decades, until Trump upset the Deep State plan in 2016. The People haven't had a candidate of their own since 1984, and Reagan was by that time controlled by the Deep State, too.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 1 month ago
        Yeah, Trump was a fluke - the people actually got what they wanted. I guess the big thing learned from the 2016 election is "they" didn't rig the election well enough and the big thing learned in the 2020 election is "they" didn't hide the rigging as well as they should have. "Their" 2020 plan B (rig the courts and DOJ to throw out any complaints) seems to be working rather well, though.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 1 month ago
    Let's throw it in the laps of the oligarchs. Let 16 jobless brats sign contracts for cars and houses and then default. Make sure they must sign up for the military. Kick them out of parents houses and let them pay their own college, or get a loan they will never repay. Not sure who wold scram first, kids or oligarchs. Voting is something you should grow into, be mature enough to read and discern what candidates support, not what Taylor Twit wells them to do.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 month ago
    21 to buy/drink alcohol. 18 to be drafted and go to war. 18-21 to buy a firearm. 18 to buy cigarettes. 18 to be tried as an adult... Blah, blah blah.

    Pick a date people are adults, and then they are adults. End of story.
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  • Posted by 1 month ago
    In order to secure a mail in ballot, i had to request same from the County Clerk, fill it out, send it back. Then I received the ballot and filled it out and mailed it back with my signature on the back of the envelope. Then after the election, I was advised by mail my ballot had been counted.
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    • Posted by bobsprinkle 1 month ago
      My home is in Florida. I spend time in Georgia during summer/fall. While in Florida I went to county elections office and requested a mail in ballot be sent to me in Georgia. Filled out all the paperwork. Got my ballot by mail in Georgia and signed and returned it.
      Like you in Texas, this is the way it is SUPPOSED to be done.
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 1 month ago
    The Dems are pushing this because something very dire happened when they lost the WH to Trump.

    The Congressional reactions (both emotionally and in legislation) to the last election remind me of dysfunctional parents excessively punishing their children because the parents hate each other.

    They are very afraid of the voting public and of reality.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 1 month ago
    I want 16 y/os to be able to vote, but I would be open to some sort of test and/or even limiting voting to people who pay some federal income tax (not just Social Security payroll taxes, but actual income tax). If they didn't the income tax requirement, it would disqualify almost all teenagers and half the adult population.

    I know this idea has a horrible racist history, and maybe it wouldn't work. I just think it would be better if it were harder to vote. I would be cautious, though, that politicians would take advantage of a test or other requirements to undermine their opponents.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 1 month ago
      At 16 most people have no clue what their government does, what their vote means, or what the constitution says. They have little life experience to draw on to make decisions and no investment in the outcome because they are almost exclusively parasites on their parents (and on the taxpayers.) Most have not been taught to make rational decisions.
      Letting anyone vote (regardless of age) without ability to think rationally, or without the experience to make a rational decision, or without the understanding of the true history of the constitution and bill of rights, socialism, free market capitalism, monarchy, corruption from power, and many other things is utter foolishness and a recipe for disaster. This is what changes to the original constitution that have widened suffrage and expanded government political power have wrought. Expanding suffrage to more irrational beings is more foolishness.
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