I had not use for McCain, Obama, for that matter Johnson or Bush Sr. I would not have trusted them with my cat! None of them did a thing to help the blacks help themselves into independence. Always the gov. plantation. Thier flackies.

I find it interesting that many candidates go through the rectal exam when questioned about natural born citizenship, and yet not a peep in a blatantly obvious case.

"They" tried it with a remotely plausible Republican named John McCain and then defended Barry Saetoro to the hilt.

And now not a peep from either "side"?.

Yeah, who picks up the phone when that call at 3:00 AM come in?

"Can't read enough and have way too many books weighing down the household."

Yup!

On "Socialized Germany" availability, that link I included is the scanned PDF of it. :) For Herf it is an F: https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Enemy-P...

Leonard Peikoff's book filled in a large gap for me, amongst others, as to why Ayn Rand embraced Aristotle and not Plato.

You sound like I was - and am still - an avid reader when young and old. My "problem" is I am interested in everything. Can't read enough and have way too many books weighing down the household. In part it comes from an English teacher mother and librarians for aunts and cousins. Public school just got in the way.

So, I am interested in your other references. Is that Herf or Hert? Hard to tell without applying a glass to the computer screen for these eyes.

Another thing I like is going back to older references. The time frames when things were written can be important. Especially when seeing how many modern works (<50-100 years given the topic) are well hidden or not so well hidden hit pieces by collectivist revisionists. "Socialized Germany" in 1915 sounds like a must read.

I hope it can be found. Great stuff!

Oh man, I wanted to take those cruises back then. But for me and my health at the time I had to GTFO of the area I was living. I had basically become horribly allergic to something in the area after a particularly nasty bout.

I don't think the veganuts will win this battle though. It has been becoming ever more clear and the results ever more tenable. It is enough so far that I see many doctors adding the fact that they focus on dietary changes over medicine in their bio. Sure, some of them will push the vegan agenda, but the vast majority don't. Like Tom's doctor in the movie most are confronted with "wait, that ... didn't go as expected" and most doctors will at such a point become interested. Particularly the ones who went into the business genuinely to help people.

I see more and more restaurants sporting gluten-free and "animal/protein/carnivore-style" options. Some are even getting clued in about just how nasty soy is. There are now more top-end athletes, even in high endurance stuff, that are going low/slow/no carb than there are "vegan/vegetarian" ones - and outperforming them hard. It is slow, but that ship is turning. It may be another several decades, but that is one of the few areas I think are looking up.

Yeah, there is something about feudalism, and the difference between that and a Monarchy. One of my driving goals has to answer a question I asked myself a few years ago:

People seem to like to claim the Nazis and Fascists were, as Peterson puts it "The Right gone too far"; yet they were the Left by pretty much every indicator. So if that is not the right example, and assuming there is such a thing as "too far to the right", what would the structure of that government look like?

My top two contenders have been the "Old West" period in America, and a Monarchy, though a feudal one might be the better descriptor for the latter. I wouldn't say the Old West was "too far", but might be a genuine "far right" under the understanding that "Right" means individualist.

Yeah, Leonard can be a small hurdle to a present-day mind, but usually worth it. He is one of the few that have successfully traced some of the conception and basics of collectivism back to Plato. I practically lived at the library in my childhood, and one had a veritable encyclopedia of Plato's writings. Of course given the name I devoured them. My senior year of HS my political economy teacher (it was an "advanced" class that was pretty solid - this was decades ago) asked if I had read any Plato. I informed him practically everything that was available. He said he doubted that and asked me what I thought of Plato. I said he was an overrated prick.

This kinda shocked my teacher who sat there for a moment and then said "well, perhaps you have read enough of him." >.<

What he didn't know at the time is that earlier in my education an English teach had assigned us "Anthem." After Anthem, Plato's whole notion of destroying the individual practically made him persona non grata for me. Since that and his notion of a perfect reality and what we perceive are so core to his writings, I didn't care for him or them, much.

Have you read Herf's book on Nazi propaganda ""The Jewish enemy"? It really helps demonstrate the path and the parallels, repetition, and similarity to the same self-style "progressives" and their propaganda.

I've been rereading a bunch of the older stuff - and by older I mean some of it centuries old, including by the proponents of those collectivist ideologies. It is a rough read overall, but the goal was to determine if there was something that was consistent in the terms left/right throughout history that would stand as core principles. The standard things we consider to those just don't stand up to a review of even the last several decades.

But two things do tend to be common: the Left has been always collectivist minded, while the Right was not. IMO, so far, it is the reason why the Left is always behind the draconian regimes. Collectivism demands authoritarianism because in a sense it is so brittle because it can not stand against the individual otherwise.

Oh and I forgot to mention the specific book by Howe, my apologies. It is "Socialized Germany", 1915. It is public domain now, so https://ia800909.us.archive.org/11/it... is an image scan of it I've found. I've been meaning to OCR it, but let us just say the scan quality is ... not stellar. Thus I expect it will be quite the undertaking.

Except when it is the Harris-Biden Adm.! How is she supposed to take over when she is not a naturalized citizen, mother citizen of India, Father citizen of Jamica? Just one more law for them to break. They will be happy when all white people not in Congress or CEO of an oligarch is locked up, then they can screw over the blacks as they want to and always havae done!

Well said. For further advanced reading into this very subject of how the hell Germany became what it did - try The Ominous Parallels by Leonard Peikoff. Not an easy read, but essential.

Tom's a real cool guy, and so is his family. We met him on the first low carb group cruise we went on around 2011 and became friends, cruising together several times since then as well. Then one year we got seated for dinner every night with Tom and his family and THAT was a real treat. Too bad we won't be cruising with them for at least a while, because neither of us is interested in getting the vaccine.

Re: your last sentence. Interesting to me that science is beginning to understand the dietary practice stuff, but WILL be shouted down by the vegans and planet-do-gooders. I hate to be so glad I'm old. But it's just so depressing to see what's happening right before our very eyes.

I'm an amateur student of history, but I'm also the daughter of a southern Baptist minister.
While I'm not religious myself, my dad warned us for years about one world government.
What he described was feudalism.

Pretty cool you're friends w/Tom! I loved that movie and his approach. Particularly when the doctor could not understand the results. He really demonstrated how SuperSize Me was blatant propaganda and deception.

IMO more should be interested in the carnivore stuff. Medical science is only slowly but surely beginning to understand how much of the modern ails are from our terrible dietary practices.

you mean "them" and "everyone beneath them"?

"Their only goal is to destroy the country, and run what's left like feudal overlords."

Funny you should put it that way. Way back in the beginning of the 20th century, Howe explained why he thought the Germans were so eager for socialism (and he was a supporter of both btw). They difference (correctly!) he identified was that the Germans were in a feudal empire with a monarchy, whereas in England the rising "capitalist class" eroded the landed aristocracy (in part by ahem marrying into it) and in the U.S. we were dominated by our frontier-oriented and self-reliant history.

He goes on to explain things that the only things we'd find shocking is that this was published in the beginning of the 1900s rather than today. For example,

"socialism always comes from the cities." An eye-opener is also that the capitalists were the Liberal party back then and the landed aristocracy were the Conservative party.

That last bit matters because it is important to know that when reading about how Hitler and the Nazis railed against "the Liberals". Also that the landed aristocracy was who already controlled the industries. People don't realize just how paternalistic Germany was before Hitler rose to power. Hitler basically just doubled down on what had been going on for well before him - most notably how much Bismarck had begun everything Hitler then doubled down on.

But anyway back to the main point: Nazi Germany was literally built on the feudal society that pre-existed them, and relied on that structure to convince the people to allow the government such power. So "feudal overlords" is more apropos than you may have realized. :)

No, reality does indeed suck. That is part of why they will never be happy: they don't understand that. They think reality is the fantasy in their heads and it is being cut down by their mystical white patriarchal supremacy demon.

One can be happy recognizing that reality sucks and life is hard (as in you won't get out of it alive) and thus knowing that what matters is how you handle the reality and learning to handle it better. One can not be happy believing that reality is perfect if not for those evil bass turds.

The reality is that this reality sucks....aka left/liberals

I'm not sure who stated this, or where I heard it from (maybe here?) but it's so true:
"Some people are mad at you because you are not suffering the way they expected you to. May God keep on disappointing them."

Reality is not what sucks, but rather those who want to erase reality like Biden and Harris are trying to do.

Communists are never, ever happy.

The US ARMED FORCES has been too powerful for our enemies to defeat us. The cost would be too much. So, the only way to get us, is from the inside. You are now seeing it being done. It’s not too late. We must all get behind the effort to stop HR1 b4 the 2022 midterm. If we get the house and senate back , we could stop the slide.

Lighten up, folks: George Soros bought the 2020 election, fair and square.
Now, we are finding out how much it will cost us.

Start here:
https://charlescarrollsociety.com/201...
Go to http://www.survivalblog.com
Also the Book “Going Galt: Surviving Economic Armageddon” by Daxton Brown
The time for arguing over who gets to be Captain of the Titanic is over. Fashion a life raft and leave early to avoid the rush. You don’t want to be in “the boats” with the rest of the passengers.

So much to do, so little time. I'm working on one of my sons, if I can convert his political ignorance he learned from his wife, I will have achieved my final goal in my life. If we all do one, educate them with the facts, then we might be able to save this country. It's all based on volume.

They won't be satisfied until there are only two classes in American society -- the haves, and the have-nots.