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  • Posted by Exitstageright 3 years, 6 months ago
    In 2008, after Zero had been reelected, I decided to actively pursue selling my industrial supply company. I saw a future, if I kept up the grind of overseeing 5 branch outlets in three states with 100+ employees, as not one I would need shades for.
    In 2009, the lamestream media was reporting that the 'economy was rebounding'. A large company took the bait and made me an offer. I took it. 6 months later, one of my sales managers that stayed with the company told me sales were down 72 percent. A close call.
    I pulled up a map from a night sat photo of the US and identified several "dark" spots (few ground lights).
    I settled on a dark spot in Texas.It met my criteria of low population, no state income tax, conservative, and rural minded folks. Add to that pleasant weather, ample rain fall, and ground water. I ended up buying 700 acres of "in the middle of nowhere" heavily wooded land.
    I have been working diligently for a decade now to prep for the crap coming down the pike we see today. My ranch has 20000 square feet under roof of improvements, 7 solar powered water wells, 30000 watts of installed solar power, our own gas well for a 22.5k gas powered generator, 5 small wind turbines, and 6 ponds stocked with catfish, crappie, and channel cat. We garden, we grow our own hopps to make beer, have a vineyard for wine, fruit trees, and a hundred head of cattle and dairy goats in cleared pastures. We raise and incubate chickens and guineas. Deer, turkey, and wild hawgs abound.
    My brother and his bride have a standing offer from me to move to Texas with us. I could use the help, since it is only me, my bride, and a legal Honduran.
    My other requirement, if necessary, from my brother, is, "can you pull a trigger".
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    • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
      Congratulations on your business exit and your permaculture plan.
      2009 saw an 8x business increase for me for one year. The industries providing freight-rail with iron castings and production design service suffered serious setbacks. I was small, nimble and creative. I managed zero debt in 6 months and filled in a few manufacturing weak points with the rest of the cash flow. As of January....I quit, moved 300 miles away, brought a bunch of my "toys" with me and spent this fall preserving the harvest. My blood pressure is down 20 points and I'm happy!
      Keep a low profile and prosper.
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      • Posted by Exitstageright 3 years, 6 months ago
        "Keep a low profile and prosper".

        Commander, you magnificent bastard, you read my book!
        (I just love Patton quotes).

        Keeping a low profile is key. Being ostentatious will bite one hard in this age of envy. My ranch hq is a mile from the nearest dirt road and my ranch entry. I drive into town for feed and supplies with an old truck. I am not showy. And rumours abound amongst the locals that that crazy war vet has mined his road with explosives and guided missles.
        My halloween trick or treaters traffic is zip. Of course, the crappy road in and two key code gates aint't exactly inviting. I built a garage at the front gate for deliveries.
        UPS/Fedex drivers are gratefull.
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        • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
          LMAO!
          Commander is an honorary bestowed among peers, as is Captain within my sailing acquaintance.
          I was stationed at Reese AFB in the late 80's..Lubbock. I spent my time with ranchers more than anyone else...toward San Angelo and just off the caprock. Hunting Javelina with a revolver is interesting when on one's knees in the scrub. When accepted within the multi-generational Texans....you are golden.
          I wonder if my buddy Wayne is still around there...just in case you really need those rockets. Wayne was a Nam POW for over 30 months, a little "touched" and one of the sanest human beings I have ever encountered. He made himself a promise upon returning stateside; that he would "play" the rest of his life. Well...that manifested in chase for hot air balloons around the SW, a bounty hunt licensure and a Class A weapons license...just for fun...

          The thought of meeting Patton...I've a comparable personality. Met Chuck Yeager in 76 at a Change of Command, Beeville NAS...had not a clue as I was 13 at the time. Accompanied my uncle to the ceremony...I really don't think many folk get to see such magnitude of gold braid and hear such "stories"...you know...the one's that never happened....

          And so...a toast. Exitstageright, you magnificent son of a bitch!
          ....in keepin with the situation....
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          • Posted by Exitstageright 3 years, 6 months ago
            Lubbock, Texas.
            Goodness. A Galt's Gulch reunion.
            I taught classes at TTU. My good friend Rick Husband got his engineering degree there. Him and I launched model rockets as kids in Amarillo Texas. We crashed one into a 2 story house. The owners wife came out and chastised us as being ner do well's. Flash forward, when they renamed the Amarillo airport to the Rick Husband International Airport after Rick and his crew burned in his space shuttle. I was on the presentation stage with the family. This little ole lady came up and apologized for calling me and Rick ner do well's in front of the crowd..

            I gotta admit, I had a problem suppressing tears.
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            • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
              Damn Son! You just hit a cord.
              My "reality" stopped for a moment when I saw Challenger disintegrate. Walking through my squadron I'd meet eyes with unspoken resolve after that incident; Zero Defect, 100% mission capable, the indoctrination of the newer Airmen to the seriousness of every detail. I've spoken with over 50 guys and gals in aircraft logistics since. With unilateral resolve: All of "them" (the pilots and crew) are of a possessive Our's.
              Years later I worked building assembly and machining fixtures for a company in Minneapolis, Tolerance Masters, on behalf of Sunstrand, who was building some sort of "mixing" valves for the shuttle. I was so happy to think I had a miniscule part of that endeavor......and then it was shattered.
              My condolences for your troubles. My congratulations on your well spent relationship with Commander Husband.

              And I think you'll understand when I express: Thanks for the gut-punch, it keeps me grounded.

              We can share more later. I'm off to commit a neighborliness!
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              • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 6 months ago
                Bureaucrats do what they do, without regard to anything else but their career concerns. As a graduate student I recognized the reckless disregard for the astronauts' safety in the Apollo capsule before Apollo 1, and told the designer, Rockwell, they had designed a death trap. My observations about the hatch that couldn't be opened any way but from the inside, with a ratchet wrench, were disregarded because of schedule pressures, and three astronauts died on the pad as a result.
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                • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
                  The "I told you so's" are the worst.
                  I missed a critical opportunity to report on a "potential" the October before the 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis. My friend Jim and I were driving under the bridge and noticed the rack and pinion expansion on the SW quarter was in an extended position (back quarter of the length) with the overnight ambient temps around 35F. Clear evidence in hindsight of "stretched" superstructure. I had crossed the bridge twice the morning of collapse and by 1600 was out on Lake Superior from Houghton, in transit to start the Trans-Superior sailboat race. We put in at Grands Marais next morning to get some lunch and provisions and saw the news feed. My Neighbor, Dave, was one of the first responders as he had just started shift at Metal Matic adjacent the North pier.
                  The collapse was the responsibility of Minneapolis, Hennepin Co and Minnesota. It was designed and built before the massive amounts of salt were used to clear roadways...and I told this to the defense attorneys of the engineering firm who were prosecuted. Bureaucracy again.
                  An irony of the situation is that Jim (above), whom could not "disclose" at the time, and did so years later, was a cell coordinator for the FBI investigating rail, power and other infrastructural mishaps on the potential of terroristic activities. However, he was able to get my, and his October account into affidavit with the bureau.
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                  • Posted by $ jdg 3 years, 6 months ago
                    The lesson here is that there is no substitute for every project having an "owner" who personally pays if someone gets hurt or killed, and has the power to hold off production until he is satisfied. Occupational licenses purport to offer this type of accountability but really don't, because of regulatory capture.
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                    • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
                      Agree. I remember self-counsel in 85. Bring no harm through action or oversight.
                      If an "Interpretive" was to precede The US Constitution stating personal liabilities to the extent of held "estate" in the event of malfeasance, I think we would live under far better circumstance. Oliver W.Holmes dissent in Lochner v New York basically smashed the Dec of Independence as such.
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        • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 6 months ago
          Sounds like some of the locals have been watching the latest Stallone movie, "Rambo, Last Blood." That's good, keep your answers about those claims oblique, and no one is going to mess with you. If they ask about the tunnels, just give them the raised eyebrow, nothing else.
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    • Posted by Casebier 3 years, 6 months ago
      To another Texan who grew up dirt farming for cotton and alfalfa in far SW Texas not far from Midland/Odessa, your set up sounds like Texas Shangri-La by comparison. At the same time I know (and pay) a healthy property tax since our wonderful state doesn't have an income tax, and yours sounds like you've created high value property. Doesn't the RE taxes take a significant bite from you annual budget? Or were you able to have an ag exemption due to your livestock and agriculture?
      BTW, I also make my own beer, and occasionally some harder stuff for special occasions. As my grandmother told me on the farm in the 1950's, "Unless you can't follow simple directions, anything made with your own hands always tastes better than store-bought."
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      • Posted by Exitstageright 3 years, 6 months ago
        Casebier, you are correct on RE taxes in Texas. Even though the state has no income tax, they do have a healthy property tax. But there are exemptions on homestead.
        You are also correct in your assumption of ag exemptions.Taxes on 700 acres with improvements would be prohibitive. But my personal domicile is a small fraction of the overall ranch operations.
        My livestock are worth more than they realize..

        IE, don't let the system defeat you. Use the system against them.
        Don't let the bastards get ya down.
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        • Posted by Exitstageright 3 years, 6 months ago
          "Midland/Odessa, your set up sounds like Texas Shangri-La by comparison."

          If you live there my friend, you are tuffer than I am.
          I know you have trees. And damn proud of both of them!

          big grin feeling yore pain....
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          • Posted by Casebier 3 years, 6 months ago
            I'm not there any more. Got educated in finance and economics and just retired this year after selling my last commercial real estate development. Both my grandparents and parents lived on the farm until they left this world. Fortunately after losing their water supply to farm with, they were able to live out their lives there because of what was found under the ground. I sold the farm, but not the mineral rights, after their passing, but the well that sustained them continues to produce as it has been for 60 years.
            BTW, they did have trees, paper shell pecans trees that my grandfather planted along the irrigation ditches so they were watered every time we irrigated the fields. We also raised some sheep who would pepper the irrigation ditches when they ran them. When my sister and I were kids, we'd swim in the ditches with the "sheep pellets" and pecans floating around us and not think anything of it. So we developed good immune systems which has kept both of us still going strong.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
    Are you referring to a physical place? As in So America?...?
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    • Posted by 3 years, 6 months ago
      Yes, a physical place; I'm concerned the way we are headed, I'll need and/or want one. Thanks for the welcome.
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      • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
        To get free from large, dense population zones is about the only advice at present. Quite a few have talked about remote locations within this forum. For me, I moved from a metro of over 2.5 mil to a county of 75k. And I have found more like-minded conservative folks saturate this area. "We" live closer to the means and interactions of real mortality (sustenance) than the "distanced" urban populations who assume to a part that their food and goodies just appear in stores. This is a grossly vague expression in many aspects, yet conveys what I have seen and learned as a generality living urban and rural.
        I'll be willing to help you explore the Wis region and I think you'll get plenty of invitations to explore the areas other "Gulchers" live within.
        You'll have plenty of responses to this post over the next few days.....I know this from history here.
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        • Posted by $ TomB666 3 years, 6 months ago
          As Commander says you can look around in a lot of areas if you know what you want. We like the climate in the south, but our family is in the mid west so we chose to move to the bootheel of Missouri to an area around a town called Cape Girardeau. Missouri is beyond corrupt in places like St. Louis, but unlike Illinois which is run by a Chicago mafia, Missouri is quite agreeable in these outlying areas. FYI, Missouri is 'constitutional carry'.
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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 3 years, 6 months ago
    My own favorite is a place called Tikina-i-ra on the island of Vanua Levu in the Fiji archipelago. Lots of pros and cons.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mELRq...
    Choose as you will. Land is going US$500/acre but is part of a larger 10,000 acre parcel which is being offered as an entire package. Steep, yes, but well away from everything. See the post titled "The Gulch is still there".
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 6 months ago
      Strict firearms laws in Fiji, but there's enough under the table government corruption that I'm sure "exceptions" can be had.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
        Until the same government changes policy and seizes the entire improved property if their rule of law allows. How long will the bribed stay bribed? Until they think they can get more? Only a superior military force can protect against such "government" protection, imo. That investment makes the purchase of the property trivial in comparison. (imo)
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  • Posted by Katrina41 3 years, 6 months ago
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/keith-o...

    Add this monster to reasons we need a literal Gulch.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
      I and many others like me would love to leave the leftist Fabian "society" of looting, lying, stealing, and treason that Olbermann promotes via his left-biased fraudulent propaganda.
      If you leftists would re-write history, as you have done so frequently to enslave the productive, and guarantee that leaving such a perverted "society" via secession will not be persecuted by military action, we will be delighted to leave and take all the other productive freedom-loving individualists with us.
      May you enjoy eternally drowning in your equality of outcome societal bile.
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