If Biden/Harris win, the administration that they create will be:
Obama 2.0

Remember: President Obama re-defined the middle class as "those who make $50,000.00 or more". ( !?)

That means that ANYONE with disposable income will be "the rich" and need to be taxed to death to support non-productive and perhaps even worthless and destructive sub-cultures.

I think that Trump's insight into Washington BEING the problem led to the prosperity of the last few years.

I'm certain that Biden will find a creative way to punish and rescind that.

I'll be voting for 4 more years of freedom from Washington.

Biden will just do what Obama did: bow and cowtow. Kamala will probably be on her knees as well. Biden will probably just be locked in a closet somewhere

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If there was any other decent candidate running, I might be strongly looking at their platform and history at least. Last time I was sure that my protest vote would not have any effect on the electoral vote. This time that isn't as clear, so my vote may actually mean something. Unless something changes drastically between now and election day, my vote must be cast against Biden and against another leftist, black president.

There is no other option. I watched the whole thing and found it to be a frustrating experience.
Some of you can not vote if you want to. It's a free country. At least up until now.
But should this Constitutional Republic be destroyed by Marxists like Kamala Harris, AOC and Bolshevik Bernie, who with many others skulk behind the Trojan Horse that is Joe Biden, it won't be me dino's fault.

Also: why do we have to use so-called "journalists" for moderators? why is that such a written rule. I dug the idea of having Joe Rogan do one! But that will never ever happen! I bet Joe could get some info out of both of those guys ;)

Dr. Jo Jorgensen.

Even if one feels compelled to write in their own name, at least let your voice be heard that Dr. Jorgensen is a viable candidate.

I don't even watch the debates because she's not admitted to the floor.

As much as I can agree with almost all that you said I sure wish you would have ended with a clear choice to stick with the devil we know rather than the fool who has lost twice before for obvious reasons. Joe Biden is No President and never will be so once again we must hold our nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. Better yet we MUST take control of the House and maintain control of the Senate if we ever hope to get anything done in the next 4 years. Beating down DJT will do nothing good for us at all.

Maybe this is a good place to repost Rand's letter from '72.

Many wonder who Ayn Rand would vote for if she were alive, and maybe the conclusion of her letter from Vol. 1, No. 24, 8/28/72, will possibly shed some light. Pay particular attention to her last paragraph.

To the great credit of the American people, the polls taken immediately after the Democratic Convention showed a significant drop in McGovern’s popularity and a significant rise in Nixon’s. At this writing, Nixon leads by the enormous figure of 26%.

I am not an admirer of President Nixon, as my readers know. But I urge every able-minded voter, of any race, creed, color, age, sex, or political party, to vote for Nixon – as a matter of national emergency. This is no longer an issue of choosing the lesser of two commensurate evils. The choice is between a flawed candidate representing Western civilization – and the perfect candidate of its primordial enemies.

If there were some campaign organization called “Anti-Nixonites for Nixon,” it would name my position.

The worst thing said about Nixon is that he cannot be trusted, which is true: he cannot be trusted to save this country. But one thing is certain: McGovern can be trusted to destroy it.

Ayn Rand

Asking questions we already have answers to and have already vetted out is the dumbest way to conduct a debate...NONE of those questions were meaningful or necessary.

One can vote:
1. For Trump
2. For Biden
3. For other
Trump or Biden WILL win. If he wins, Biden WILL expand government and take away freedom. Trump speaks like trailer trash, but other than some excessive government spending (e.g. corona relief), he is reducing government.

If you vote for #3 (e.g. yourself or Jorgansen) you may make a statement. If you live is CA, NY, NJ, VT, RI or MA, whatever, you vote doesn’t count anyway. If you live in TX or FL, you just supported Biden.

If you want to support Biden, fine, your choice. Of course there is no reason for you to be here. If you don’t, then don’t throw away a vote in a swing state, or you are undermining what you say you believe in.

Always, Jo Jorgensen this time for instance.

Thanks for adding the point about borders, McC. I also agree on Biden's fragility. All the foreign "allies" will line up for Biden because he will do a great job for them - and betray the American people.
I wish Trump had been more methodical and given facts to support how his policies benefit middle class Americans. His belligerence is not the strategy I would have chosen.

I voted for Trump in 2016 because he was the least socialist of the candidates that had a chance in hell of actually winning.

I will do the same in this election for mostly the same reason. However, I can add that Trump will stand up for America's national sovereignty at the borders. I can also add he will take less crap from foreign leaders, even those pretending to be our friends.

Biden and his supporters may feel Trump was a bully at the debates (I'm already hearing that), but if Biden can't handle a slapping from Trump, then how will he handle it from foreign leaders? I suppose he could send them plane loads of cash and millions of American jobs just so they'd be nice to him at state dinners.

Yep. Good description of why I changed the channel.

great quick reply article.

Here is one other commentary on the effect of the moderator, and it is a damning commentary.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...

The only thing I gained from that display was to recognize weaknesses, which is in itself is valuable in decision making.

For 4 years Trump has been under fire, pressured by domestic enemies: the press, the Dems, the GOP, the wealthy, the badly chosen leaders of the less fortunate. Trump has had no domestic allies to help face foreign interests many whose primary goal is to destroy what makes America a successful competitor. The actions of foreign competitors is understandable. Not so the actions of the Americans who have conspired against Trump and have ignored their sworn duties to America. imo, some have committed treason by their actions, e.g., the Clintons, Pelosi, James Comey, Robert Mueller. No other president has had a challenge of this kind.
Biden's exasperation with pressure from Trump was telling. There is no doubt in my mind that Biden could not represent America under foreign or domestic pressure and is unfit to be president.

President Trump's performance was as unsettling as Biden's. Faced with tough questions, Trump did not answer and changed the subject ... and he did so poorly. For a guy who is proud of his negotiating skills, Trump is a surprisingly bad liar.
Do Americans want a good liar as president?
Do Americans want someone who's talent is shouting instead of making rational arguments?
I don't.
I don't want someone with advancing dementia either.
I don't want someone promising bigger government, higher taxes, and more programs that don't work either.
The choice in 2020 is no better than in 2016.

The best reason to vote for Trump is a hard to explain belief that as an outsider Trump opposes the growth of the deep state and can somehow defeat it.
Biden as a career politician represents the growth of the state and destruction of individual liberty. Of that, I have no doubts.
I have little doubt that Biden's presidency will be short and that his VP will take control. I have already seen what a leftist black president can do to destroy America. I don't want to see a repeat of that ever again.

Americans deserve better than this. Both major parties are guilty of treason.

I think I may have made it through the first 10 minutes or so. By the time Biden whined out the Clorox fake news jab I'd had it. Trump missed a great opportunity to remind everyone the USA is a Constitutional Republic, meaning we have a Constitution as the primary law of the land, and the elections required of the people to decide who selects a Supreme Court justice as specified in the Constitution had already taken place in 2016 and 2018. There are no special elections for justices spelled out in the Constitution and no requirement to wait on a following election. I think they both need a Constitutional refresher course.

I changed the channel and watched a youtube video on ancient architecture - much more interesting and less anger inciting.

I will be catching up on highlights over the next few days. It will be interesting and frustrating watching the spin machines butcher an already bad piece of meat. Small doses at a time.

I certainly lost no sleep over this.

I saw no winner from a public, general perspective; only two boys shouting across the fence.

The President made point on:
Over 100 judiciary positions left open by previous admin. "You" could have filled those. "I" will fill vacancies, it is a Right by Constitution, you would do same on Supreme Court.
Tax breaks on corporate activity began an economic resurgence.
"You" have sabotaged activity since beginning of "My" admin. (Media, Investigations, Impeachment)

The Senator on....?
If I had not finished Candace Owen's; Blackout yesterday morning the methodology I saw would not have been fresh.
Implied "His" administration.
We are here to help you, the oppressed and disadvantaged.
The one percent "owe" you and we will take by force through taxation.

I've just run a few highlights.

Now, back to Blackout. The Senator exhibited the rote regurgitation of the administrations in all the large city strongholds. What the book illustrates is that methodology over history of at least 80 contemporary years. It is a methodology I have witnessed and been affected by for 30 years living in Minneapolis proper. The method is to create separatism through whatever rhetoric happens to be popular at the time and inflame it, with a corresponding narcissism of offer to correct all the inequities so that the affected can...feel...comfortable. "You don't have to take responsibility, We can do this for you." The suicide of altruism is alive and well unfortunately.

If you got a headache, as I did, then both of them lost.

Couldn't agree more, JB.
Not presidential. Not a debate.
Fake news?
I hope neither of these two expect my vote.
I especially enjoyed both candidates complete ignorance on climate change, and economics, and health care, and ....

I don't know who won but it gave me a headache.

I'll let you know a little later tomorrow...I've a few calls to make.