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    Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
    Finally.
    Hope that its not too late to get a pick from Trump approved. Crucial.
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      Posted by $ BobCat 3 years, 6 months ago
      This will be a test to see if the Republicans in the Senate are for the Constitution or against it. If they drop the ball on this, then the Tree of Liberty will need serious watering.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 6 months ago
      It HAS to happen. If we have a Constitutional crisis on our hands (with an evenly divided Supreme Court and a contested election) our country is dead. It's not too late, but the Senate will have to put its collective head down and ignore all the whining and crying. Shumer needs to be kidnapped or something, to get him out of the way. Also, a female contender is less likely to draw screams of "rape," though that could happen too.
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      • Posted by RimCountry 3 years, 6 months ago
        Everyone on all sides of this issue agrees that there is nothing in the Constitution to prevent a president of one political party and a Senate controlled by that same party from advancing a nominee, holding confirmation hearings, and voting on RBG’s replacement, whether it’s an election year or not. There just is no law against this. People who are opposed to this happening are arguing procedural precedent, not law. The Senate – indeed, BOTH chambers of Congress - make “new” precedent every day. That’s politics. The real question is not its legality, but whether or not it’s a politically smart thing to do, given the impact that it could have on the upcoming General Election.

        Everyone also agrees that confirming – or FAILING to confirm – a nominee prior to the election may very well determine the actual outcome of that election. With a vacant seat on the Supreme Court, if there’s a contested election, a repeat of Bush v Gore 2000, and the Justices are once again called upon to settle the matter, with only 8 seated on the Court, there’s a very good possibility of a 4-4 deadlock. If that happens, the decision then goes to Congress. That’s what the Constitution says.

        That Founding Document further says that the House of Representatives elects the president, and that the Senate chooses the VP. In common parlance, it’s called a “Contingent Election.” I wasn’t entirely familiar with the term, so I Googled it, just to make sure. Yup… that’s the way it works. Here’s where it gets tricky, though…

        In the House, it’s not a “normal” vote… if it were normal, with a 34-seat majority, the Democrat Party would definitely prevail. But in a Contingent Election, the Constitution specifies that each state delegation gets JUST ONE VOTE. That means California, even though it has 53 members in the House of Representatives, the STATE only gets one vote. Same for New York’s 27 members and Illinois’ 18. One state, one vote.

        Now, do the math… there are 50 states. Take a look at the ideological breakdown on a state-by-state basis, and there is very, VERY high probability that a contingent election would simply re-elect President Donald J. Trump, and there’s no question whatsoever that the Senate would choose Vice President Pence.

        So, long story short, if the Left insists on holding up RBG’s replacement and contests the outcome of the election, a potentially deadlocked Supreme Court would hand the decision off to Congress who just may very well tell #45 that he’s now, officially, #46.
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        • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 6 months ago
          One thing that seems to be forgotten in all this is Senate "hearings" to confirm a nominee are not mandated in the Constitution and don't need to be held. The Senate's "advice and consent" mandate can simply be a "yes" or "no" vote all in one action. There is actually no need whatsoever to drag out a circus for weeks on end.
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        • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 6 months ago
          Thank you for that explanation. It puts it all into perspective. I didn’t know that about if it went to the House, and frankly, I don’t trust the House to do anything right!

          I appreciate the help with this.!
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    • Posted by IndianaGary 3 years, 6 months ago
      There is no mention of the Judiciary Committee in the Constitution. McConnell could short-circuit the process by going DIRECTLY to a Senate vote, up or down within two weeks of the President's nomination.
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    • Posted by arklatexbob 3 years, 6 months ago
      We have 4+ years left. I think that's doable.
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      • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 6 months ago
        arklatex! My home grounds! Haven't heard that term in about 30 years, since I left there....still read the digital edition of the Longview News Journal every day though. It has gotten ridiculously liberal in the past years though, so I read in incognito mode and never pay them a penny. Not gonna support their liberal trash journalism.
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    • Posted by richrobinson 3 years, 6 months ago
      Republican wimps already lack the votes for confirmation. Typical.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
        If they have any backbone at all they should get it done after a lot of horse trading because they are afraid they won't have the majority after the election. By that same logic the Dems can be depended on to vote against anyone Trump chooses. I expect Pence to cast the deciding vote and that will be his political legacy. (It's his only chance to be remembered, imo.) I agree with your confidence in the (lack of) courage of CINO wimps.
        Sure is nice to have something interesting to speculate about. Thanks for the early birthday present, RBG. Enjoy eternity in hell.
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          Posted by TheRealBill 3 years, 6 months ago
          I would default to agreeing with you on the Dems being counted on to vote against any Trump nominee. However...

          Several of them are facing re-election in heavy Trump places - and only narrowly survived previous challenge - and may not want to risk a loss. It will be interesting. If Reid had not dropped the 60, it could well be moot.

          With it being as close, and only needing 50 votes (with Pence as tie-break), the Democrats absolutely need 100% of their own. Im not entirely sure they'll get it. I think it will come down to who Trump nominates and how much of the Democrat rulebook won't fly.

          For example, if Trump were to nominate a woman of color it empties almost all of the Democratic quiver. I'm certainly not arguing that he should nominate someone based on those kinds of attributes - absolutely not. However, I would not put it past him to take someone who is qualified yet also meets that criteria just to mess with them.

          And I would totally pop some corn and watch.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
            Q: Is there a
            1)woman
            2)of color
            3)who can be trusted and
            4)is best qualified?
            A: ??

            The threats from Democrats pretending they have some weapon is close to an empty threat.
            They have already used all their ammunition in the past 4 years, except for assassination.
            They have already had at least one murder done for political reasons since 2016, so I wouldn't bet against an assassination (and the threat of more than one.)
            Republicans will show their allegiance in the next few weeks.
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            • Posted by IndianaGary 3 years, 6 months ago
              I've avoided the "a" word but one has to realistically consider that some nut may try it. Not only Trump, but Barr and several key Senators and House Republicans are at risk, not to mention several cabinet members.
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              • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 6 months ago
                A concern for me too. Something I am surprised hasn't already happened....to that, I credit not the restraint of any opposition, but the competence of the Secret Service and other protective services, who are surely earning their salaries in spades these days.
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            • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 6 months ago
              1, 2, and 3 ... can you imagine the fire storm if Candace Owens were nominated? LOL!
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              • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
                Yes, but because she is too young, completely unqualified, and inexperienced (with zero legal knowledge) to be a high court judge.
                As I said elsewhere, this process is complete rubbish. It should be about choosing the best qualified person to make unbiased judgments regarding constitutionality on existing and prospective laws. That requires an unbiased understanding of the original intent of the people who wrote the constitution and the first 10 amendments.
                Ginsberg was a perfect example of a disgustingly biased legislator hiding under a judges robes. Obama's appointees are carbon copies of Ginsberg and pathetic excuses for supposed unbiased judges of constitutional law.
                I will not be surprised if the next Democrat con-gress takes aim at the Supremes with their impeachment weapons in order to more quickly destroy liberty and America.
                This election will mark either the survival or the end of individual liberty for the human race for generations. We are the last bastion of individual liberty (albeit limited and shrinking) in the entire world.
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                • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 6 months ago
                  "...unqualified..", which is why I deliberately left out 4 regarding Ms Owens.

                  "...disgustingly biased legislator hiding under a judges robes." Best description I've seen so far.

                  I'm in agreement with your assessment of the up coming election. We are about to experience dangerous times. Stock up.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 6 months ago
        Which is really odd, since a nominee hasn't been named yet.
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        • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 6 months ago
          Oh I am pretty sure they know. Not everything that happens in politics happens in public.
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          • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 6 months ago
            Very possible, but I'm guessing there would be leaks all over the place.
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            • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 6 months ago
              Definitely a possibility. However, the Republican Senators eat lunch together in a closed room every single day that they are in session. You know these sessions HAVE to be confidential and if something leaks, it wouldn't be that hard to figure out who was doing it. Instant karma :-)

              On the other hand, I think they are MOSTLY of a mind that they need to confirm a certain kind of SC justice, and it's not that Trump has been coy about it. It will be a woman and he named two already. I don't think that committing to vote for the eventual nominee is really all that much of a stretch.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
    Hmmmm....Madam Justice Candace Owens
    Just a thought.
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago
      Unbelievable. I was thinking exactly the same thing!!! Exactly.

      My only issue with her and Prager is religion, but she would be around a looooooonnnnnggggg time! Undoubtedly the best looking SCOTUS judge ever too!
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      • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
        I'm not overly concerned with religious background, other than it being the primacy for decision making in a person.
        I like Candace in that she was not "cultured" within the powerful or elite circles like Ginsburg was.

        I'll steer you in a direction of what I mean with this: https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/powe...
        I was 12 hours reading within this arena. Lots of questions raised as I wandered about....
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        • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago
          Right, religion being a premise for decisions. Don't care what she does on Sunday.

          The left plays up such a person's likely position on abortion, and in that, I agree with the left.
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    • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 6 months ago
      Lovely idea but I think some would protest her young years. Not me! I think she is marvelous.
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      • Posted by $ nickursis 3 years, 6 months ago
        She needs to be in Congress first, then Senate, simply to shake the old bats up, point out their hypocrisy.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 6 months ago
          Patriots with a backbone like Candace Owens are NOT why me dino prefers to call myself an Independent instead of a Republican.
          I've responded to some donation requests for money that goes DIRECTLY into Trump's reelection campaign.
          Trump's reelection donation requests via the GOP? File 13 for each and every one! The dino has a trust issue. I know what RINOs are.
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          • Posted by $ nickursis 3 years, 6 months ago
            True, I will give them 5.00 a month, and then they ping me daily, but I ignore them. Maybe they should reform the whole election system so they DONT need any money and end the bribery.
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            • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
              BINGO.
              No money from anyone except registered voters ($500 each max) in the district. (No undocumented registrations of voters.)
              Limit spending amounts in every race (e.g., $10 per registered voter)
              NO RE-ELECTIONS whatsoever for federal office and candidates can NOT run for another office after serving in an elected office. GET A REAL PRODUCTIVE JOB.
              NO CAREER POLITICIANS. POWER CORRUPTS. Career politicians do not represent the people.

              Billions being spent on brainwashing people to choose between Trump and Biden while tens of thousands of small businesses go bankrupt because of government action???
              What a complete waste of effort and scarce resources.
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              • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 6 months ago
                Recall when POTUS candidate Benghazi Killery Clinton said, "My dream is open borders?" That scared me dino because at that point I thought she was gonna win.
                Well, my dream is term limits. Unfortunately, me dino thinks my dream will have as much luck
                as the ultimate ambition of the Wicked Witch of the East. (The West belongs to Porking Piglosi).
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                • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
                  Ever watch Designated Survivor? That is what it would take for a small chance at stopping career pols.
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                  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 6 months ago
                    Never watched it. Just looked it up for a brief read.
                    Yes, blowing up politicians would limit terms in office. Tell me dino if I didn't read far enough.
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                    • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
                      A replacement con-gress of amateurs would be essential to pass term limits and assure the end of professional pols in con-gress.
                      Its not a bad entertainment for the first season and a half, albeit somewhat pro-meddling-government as expected in any show from the biased unionized entertainment "industry."
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        • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 6 months ago
          If you shake the old bats up they have time to regroup....gut-punch em with reality.
          I did this at a lumber yard the other day....red pill.. They wouldn't "let" me check out without a mask. So I asked the clerk if she was discriminating against a healthy retired veteran. Stunning is one of the best methods I know.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 6 months ago
      I really do think she needs to "season" some. I wish she was a little older though, because a black female conservative nominee would really tweak some liberal undies! I like her and think she will go far, but she's not quite there. Yet.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 3 years, 6 months ago
    What I think is interesting is that Democrats are already misreporting the "McConnell Rule." McConnell's refusal to take up Merrick Garland's nomination was specifically because Obama at the time was a lame duck president who's political affiliation opposed that of the Senate majority. President Trump is running for re-election and the Senate majority is of the same affiliation.

    Really, it's all politics anyway and despite John Roberts' assertions to the contrary, the Supreme Court has ALWAYS been a partisan body. That's why the incessant calls to rely on precedent are so damaging because the Court has leaned Democrat for much of its existence - certainly since FDR.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago
    TFG!!! Thank ____ God!

    She was a breakthrough in early career, but in the last decade(s) has been legislating from the bench. She lost her way and was a huge negative in the end.

    My brother and I were talking over the weekend. We both agree, if we could have one of 1) Trump's second term or 2) another solid Constitutionalist justice (e.g. Scalia or Gorsuch), we would pick the solid SCOTUS.

    Biden would be bad, but with four solid Constitutional Justices (excluding Roberts and the pictures the DNC has of him with sodomizing goat), real long-term affect is better.
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    • Posted by IndianaGary 3 years, 6 months ago
      Except it would not be "long term" or anywhere near it. If Biden wins, the Dems will kill the Senate filibuster and then pack the Court with 6 leftists. Then make DC and Puerto Rico States with 4 brand-new Democrat Senators. The country is toast after that.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago
        6 Justices? How is that happening?
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        • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 6 months ago
          There's no Constitutional indication of how many Justices are the "correct" number of Justices, nor is there a limit specified. So, if the Dems get in power they can make all sorts of rule changes, including increasing the number of justices. Once the number is specified, they can just go ahead and add six Liberals right then and there.

          And don't put it past them for a minute - they will literally do anything - I swear, I think they'd set themselves on fire, if they thought it would bring down Trump.
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  • Posted by starznbarz 3 years, 6 months ago
    The progressive/communists (one & the same) in govt. , both elected and appointed were sure the 100 year struggle was paying off when BHO was elected with control of both houses. Then they did what communists do, they went all in on usurping healthcare because its one of the big legs needed to stand up the red table, that pissed of folks that usually just go to work and mostly ignore govt. and the TP was born . That movement caused a ripple in congress in 2010, that grew in 2012 to cause a historic loss of DNC seats nationwide. Meanwhile BHO is loading up govt. with comrades working in every dept. and appointing judges that are in step. They were building the guts of the machine to take over and operate America, Hillary was sure to be elevated and eager to wield the power. In 2016 those same folks that just go to work and are now paying attention, sent Trump as a last resort. The comrades had a cow. Turns out, Trump is pretty good at the job and now pissed off by what was done to him - and the Country, by the DNC comrades. We are witnessing the snake striking out blindly, biting itself in it s frenzy, they know if he puts up another Justice to SCOTUS, then makes public some very damning information regarding some career public officials, it is over. The 100 year struggle will end as all communist endeavors do, with chaos, then defeat.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 6 months ago
    Think of it like a game of tennis: if Trump serves up the Latina judge from Florida, it creates a real hazard for the Democrats. Attacking her could further alienate the Hispanic voter, as well as irritate Florida voters. Whether or not she gets the votes to install her, it almost doesn't matter, as it's an ace for the President
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  • Posted by GaryL 3 years, 6 months ago
    I think this was the "October Surprise" but 2 week early. Maine-Collins and Alaska-Murkowski have already made their votes clear and Utah-Romney is still butt-hurt so plan on him siding with the other two losers. Murkowski and Romney are not up for reelection this year but Collins is and she should go down in a ball of flames if she goes against what we need. Gardner in Colorado is also in a tough challenge so this is going to be a very rocky road. We could gain a seat in the SCOTUS and lose the majority in the Senate but that could happen anyway if we don't stand SUPER strong in November.
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    • Posted by evlwhtguy 3 years, 6 months ago
      Keeping the Senate and loosing the Supreme court is a Faustian bargain. The supreme court lasts much longer and unfortunately and in contravention of the founders intent....has more power than the congress.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago
        Exactly!!!!
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        • Posted by GaryL 3 years, 6 months ago
          I sure agree the SCOTUS seat is far more important than the Senate majority but my point in the end was to get the SC seat and keep the Senate majority. While we are at it it sure would send a tingle up my leg to see us take control of the House too. Get out and vote, Often if you can just like they sure will.
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago
            I'd have to vote 7M times to affect this damn state.
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            • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
              If you were a Democrat you could just cast ballots in states that matter (and run for office in another state, too.)
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              • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago
                I am not above guerilla warfare!
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                • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 6 months ago
                  As DOB has said numerous times, we are at war The enemy, paid by Soros, has been shooting people, burning innocent civilian businesses, and looting. They are defying the law, as they have been for 30 years with regards to immigration and longer for voting.
                  If we want to keep our civilization we must respond with harsh punishments. We must also make sure that as many sane voters can get to the polls as possible in November.
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                  • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 6 months ago
                    ThanQ FFA, one small correction. Soros is using our money with his NGO’s to fund the campaigns of local sheriff and DA races, in addition to his and Hussein’s insurgent BLM, Anti-fa , And Organizing for Action (OFA)
                    https://nypost.com/2017/02/18/obama-l...
                    is a nonprofit 501(c)4 organization and community organizing project that advocates for the agenda of former U.S. President Barack Obama. So grants made around the world are funneled to Soros NGO’s and he creates chaos with our money. It is really what Ukraine is all about.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 6 months ago
    Tired of winning? Trump will get his Judge . The Deep State is panicked. The senate is the key.
    Trust the plan and enjoy the show. The woman with Seven children including 2 adopted blacks
    Is a strong choice also fairly young.
    This SC justice kills the left’s legal plan to cheat US out of a duly elected President Trump.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 3 years, 6 months ago
    The 3 Rinos's don't have to vote hard no. Just vote present. That would put Pence on the bubble.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 6 months ago
      Is it splitting hairs to note that they say they don't want the vote to happen before the election. But it IS going to happen, per Mitch. So the real question is: how will they vote? They aren't saying they would be against the nominee...they're just against bringing it to a vote. It's possible (probably not too likely) that they would vote in favor of the nominee, once they have gotten over the vote/no vote decision. I guess they would - out of spite - vote NO (or maybe present). But why vote against someone if they are a good choice, just because you didn't want it to happen yet?

      I suppose this is part of why I will never be a politician.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 6 months ago
    The comments on this remind me of my favorite cartoon. A young Congressman standing in front of the Rayburn bldg saying, "Now that I have been elected, my first official act is to get myself re-elected."
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 6 months ago
    I know this is politically incorrect, but she was a deeply evil and mean woman at her core. Just one look at her face tells it all. She couldnt hide it.
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