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Transitioning out of Cali

Posted by $ Abaco 1 month, 3 weeks ago to Culture
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California continues to crumble. My son heard gunshots last night in our neighborhood. The schools are teetering on the brink of total dysfunction. It's blanketed in smoke, gray skies from mid-summer through Halloween regularly now. Ash falls on my truck like snow. Insane homeless people have become as common in the landscape as a shrub. My kids just walk by them now without batting an eye. Over $50B in the hole. Double-speak from the leadership on all things. Multiple gas taxes get passed by the voters, then the money is transitioned to something other than repairing the crumbling roads. In November the voters will pass a bill doing away with Proposition 13 for commercial real estate...Probably will increase the property tax for my golf club seven-fold.

I was handling the business of my father's estate over in Nevada the past several days. Took my son with me. It's a different planet when you leave California. People seem so much nicer. The sky is blue. The roads are smooth. The golf is cheap. The horizons are open. At work, they are working me to death - not hiring to fill positions of my colleagues when they retire - just having me do the work.

Yeah...going Galt soon. I'm the kid around the office so I can't help but smile...


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    Posted by $ allosaur 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    After you've cleaned out you desk or work station, in your shoes I'd leave a large note in all caps behind on my way out that says something akin to, "ATLAS ALSO SHRUGGED. WHO IS JOHN GALT?"
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    • Posted by $ Dobrien 1 month, 3 weeks ago
      If you don’t leave I will refer to you as Eddie Willers
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      • Posted by $ 1 month, 3 weeks ago
        LOL. Home acquired in NV. I'll be there more and more over the next 9 months until I just don't come back... Somewhat like Francisco did with the Gulch...
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        • Posted by $ Dobrien 1 month, 3 weeks ago
          That is awesome . When I golfed in Nevada I was able to drive the ball 40-50 yards longer than here.
          Instead of Willers I will call you Mr Player after Gary. BTW he is an incredible gentleman.When we did the Alex O’Brien memorial Golf Tourney he provided a framed 11x16 autographed print , as we had requested an autograph photo.
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  • Posted by $ Dobrien 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    I said this to you 3 years ago and I will gladly repeat it. Run don’t walk. Your state is in deep deep trouble. Crime is rampant. The Kali government is filed with criminals and they do not give one shit about you or your family.
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  • Posted by $ straightlinelogic 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    I left CA 8 years ago, after 36 years there, and headed back to my home state, NM. It's get plenty of flaws, but the taxes are lower, I bought a house for cash, and I can help my 83-year-old mother, who lives up the street. My brother is also nearby, and he knows everything there is to know about computers, mechanics, weapons, and building things--a very handy guy to have around when the SHTF. Can't say I miss CA much, only a few memories of what a great state it was when I got there in 1976.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    Higher tax on commercial real estate? It's going bust without the higher tax rates. That will just force more into default and migration to spread shitty ideas to AZ, NV, UT. Results: lower tax collections.
    As for NV, ask Term2 how life is there. I hope to see you in the Gulch when we both find it.
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    • Posted by ycandrea 1 month, 3 weeks ago
      Yes! I live in Oregon on the east side to the Cascades and things used to be very sane here. But now many Portlandiers are moving here and destroying what we once had.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    So many from Kali moving here and I fear they will bring the failed philosophy they are fleeing with them. They are paying asking price, cash, quick close and making it unaffordable for those of us here to buy and rent. Kali was a nice state, has some really beautiful areas. Very sad.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 1 month, 3 weeks ago
      This! They are going to come infect the rest of us as quickly as they can. Makes me ill. And of course, Abaco and people with his mindset are the people we WANT.
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      • Posted by $ 1 month, 3 weeks ago
        Yeah...most people I talk with in NV are California transplants and we always look at each other and say, "Can't take it there anymore." Many, many of them are very good people who hate big government. It's really nice...
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    A lot of people are leaving California and going to Nevada. Eventually they will turn Nevada into California, too. You have to go farther. Utah, or South Dakota. (But don't tell anyone that you know is going to vote Dimocrat, we don't want them voting for ruinous policies in states that aren't bankrupt.) North Dakota may very well be the best modern analog to the version of Colorado that Ayn Rand described in Atlas Shrugged. The oil boom there is huge. Williston is a boom town, and it never sleeps.
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  • Posted by term2 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    Nevada used to be a lot better. Now, the trolls from california have come here and want to make Nevada into what California used to be.

    Taxes are about to skyrocket here in Las Vegas. The stupidly insane governor is in the process of simply destroying the economy in vegas. Vegas lives off tourism, and he is making it impossible for tourists to want to come here. But he doesnt cut state expenses, so we are running a terrible deficit. At this rate, Vegas will never recover, and people will go to other destinations where they can have decent vacations.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    I moved there in 1992... I lasted about 92 days.
    Moved to FL.
    I was shocked that for a SHACK I would pay 10x what my dads 3B/1BA house was worth in MI. And it had a basement!

    I was more shocked when my paycheck showed a BEVY of taxes (Fed,State,and Local?) When I complained, some people explained they lived in Marin County that had 2 more layers of taxes.

    Food was so expensive, I Joked that the Hens were hoarding the eggs, screaming "No... Don't take my children!"

    The weather was GREAT, though. Everyone was always outside.

    But I was going to have to join 5 people to buy into my first 3 bedroom house, and have a roommate for 3-5 years. So I could do it again, and have my own bedroom. Then HOPEFULLY I meet a gal who did the same thing, and we could afford the down payment on a house of our own.

    I did the math on a trip back to MI, and started looking for options to get out of dodge. An offer for LESS money and LONGER hours came along with moving to FL... And I NEVER LOOKED BACK.

    AFAIK it has only gotten worse...

    Run!
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  • Posted by dmshuler 1 month, 2 weeks ago
    I left the Silicon Valley in CA 19 years ago and have NEVER regretted it. I now live in KY near to my family and live in a wonderful piece of the country on a 4-acre homestead which would have been out of my reach back in CA. You'll never regret your choice to leave. I promise! Fair winds and following seas!
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 1 month, 2 weeks ago
    I am so thankful we decided to retire to Oklahoma. People here are friendly, the cost of living is low, things are clean, and the crime rate is well controlled. Tulsa has taken on an unpleasant Austin, Texas sort of smell, but I think the residents are reconsidering turning it into a left wing shithole.

    It's absurd to watch Democrats try to blame the violence in the streets on Trump, but he's doing exactly what the leader of a republic is supposed to do. He's letting the Democrat run cities and states fester in putridity of their own making. They desperately want him to act like a dictator, so they can accuse him of being a tyrant, but he's letting them know what life across the country will be like if the voters don't get some common sense.
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    • Posted by $ 1 month, 2 weeks ago
      Yeah, my dad's side of the family is from Oklahoma. I visited once and really liked it. Much slower pace of life there. And, I have always been a great practitioner of the Okie sense of humor...
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  • Posted by jimslag 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    California's crumble started many years ago. I was stationed there from 1983 to 1986 and again from 1995 to 1995. First in NoCal (the SF Bay area) and second in San Diego, world's apart but the decay was there even back then. A job I had was based around Auburn outside of Sorry Sacramento and I got to spend a week or 2 there, nice area but expensive. Anyway, I grew up in Wisconsin but moved to Colorado in High School and have seen Colorado become Cali East. To many Californicators moved here and brought their politics with them, they have populated the Front Range with exception of Castle Rock through Colorado Springs into Fountain (still conservative areas). Dictator in charge Polis, I guess he was born here but spent time in Cali and it shows in his politics and Denver even has a socialist on it's city council. I guess it's the pot economy that drew all the crazies in. Anyway, don't let the Californicators get your state like they did here. And to think that back in the 70's and 80's, Colorado was worried about all the Texans moving here, now I see license plates from all over and not just the Western ones.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    I am seriously looking at moving to Mesquite Nevada. A small town of 25k folks located 80 miles NE of Las Vegas. It isn't so much the town, but the location -- within 3 hours of the Grand Canyon and Death Valley and 6 hours to the Natl Parks in Utah ... 8 hours to the Natl Parks in California (Yosemite, Sequoia, Kings Canyon). The idea is to travel in the summer ... July and August, when Mesquite temperatures top out at 104-114F. I've been into Mesquite a few times. Just a couple miles outside of town, in virtually any direction, you find ample hiking over mesas and into valleys. My property taxes in Washington State (most of the taxes are for The Children ... Government Schools) are now sky high and getting worse.
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