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Bumper Sticker / Sign - Follow up

Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 month, 1 week ago to Business
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This is a follow up.

Zazzle - boycott:
I tried to get this done on Zazzle. They claim it violates their policy. Nothing related to BLM can be printed, except supportive statements!!! Nothing. I made an argument noting that my poster was not in favor of racism. They won't even print "all lives matter'. I did a pretty good job defending, but they are programmed. A little amazing to me that they print all kinds of other argumentative stuff. I have decided to boycott Zazzle. Hope you follow suit.

VistaPrint - already fulfilled and shipped my order! Nice Dutch people...

I don't know how widespread these signs are, but around here there are a lot of these black signs: https://www.etsy.com/listing/83156016...
or
https://www.amazon.com/Believe-Metal-...

I really want to make an alternative version and/or bumper sticker:

"Science is real but AGW is not science
CO2 - 6.2%; Clouds - 15.5%; Water - 38.9%
Black Lives Matter but racism is not the issue
2,925/2,600/234 vs 3,315/2,677/514
No human is illegal but humans behave illegally
So we eliminate tracking sex offenders?
Let’s not replace old religious dogma with a new religion of misplaced outrage.
If you want to discuss these rationally, I welcome it."

Any of you smart people here know how/where to get these made? The one I have done in MS Word is nicer and colorful, but formatting is limited here. Comments are of course welcome.


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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 1 week ago
    Maybe a Dutch territory would make a good Gulch.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 1 month, 1 week ago
      Long as you don't mind tulips and large dikes. [insert off-color joke here...]

      I had a couple of friends who were from Holland. Great guys. One was from Amsterdam and said it's the closest place to a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah. He didn't really want to live there. It's a great place if you want recreational drugs - they have brick-and-mortar shops where you just walk in and get what you want. Similar to a marijuana dispensary but with more options. It's also a great place if you want recreational sex. You just walk by in the district and you get to see what is being offered in full display in the window. There's a reason they call them "red light districts" and Amsterdam is why...
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      • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 1 week ago
        The Dutch Caribbean territories aren't drug-friendly. Prostitution is closely controlled by government, although I suspect they are out of (legal) business at present.
        I have visited most of them over the years on vacations. They are pretty dependent on tourism for high employment so productive business should be welcomed for some years to come.
        They are not low tax jurisdictions, iirc, but there are probably loopholes. They do allow free travel to and from the EU (except during a pandemic.)
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        • Posted by $ blarman 1 month, 1 week ago
          Which one of these would you pick - assuming you could take complete control?

          https://traveltriangle.com/blog/dutch...
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          • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 1 week ago
            Complete control would be easier where the current population is low - Saba and Statia. Those populations are low because the islands aren't suited to large populations. They are also in the Caribbean hurricane zone. Both are volcanic islands that are dormant. Dormant is not extinct. Montserrat's volcano was dormant for centuries but erupted in '95 destroying its capital city. So I wouldn't choose either.
            Sint Maarten shares an island with the French colony St Martin and it is in the hurricane zone. That would make it less desirable to me.
            Bonaire has the lowest population density of the remaining islands and along with Aruba and Curacao is not in the hurricane zone.
            Bonaire is a "special municipality" and is subject to some administration by Dutch central government and some adminitration by local councils.
            Aruba, Bonaire, and Curacao are close to the coast of Venezuela. That could be positive or negative.
            Aruba and Curacao are "constituent countries" of the Netherlands. The Dutch King is head of state, but the local Prime Minister is head of the government.
            If I was given any one of the islands as my kingdom, I would choose Curacao. It is the largest land area, the most varied economy of the 3 islands, a large port, and has an oil refinery on the island. I think my 2nd choice would be Bonaire, but I haven't visited Aruba, so I would need to do more research on it.
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 1 month, 1 week ago
    Wow, what a shock! I hadn't been back there in a long time, but that just rankles. I'll leave what I have up there - if they have to sell a few Laissez Faire items and I make some cash from it, it's still using the enemy to promote the good. But I'm otherwise done with Zazzle.

    Another wrinkle - pun if you want one: I haven't attempted to make anything new for a couple of years, but something I did notice is that a couple of my own shirts arrived with substandard silkscreening that started peeling off after a single washing. Since I had another of the same shirt made a year or so earlier which had normal, durable silkscreening, I'm thinking either their quality is inconsistent as a matter of course or the substandard one was manufactured by a worker hostile to the message who intentionally messed up the process to make it deteriorate more quickly.

    But... VistaPrint. Thanks for the tip, I'll try them next.

    Has anybody had any ideological-exclusion experiences with CafePress? That's a service virtually identical to Zazzle, and I was able to pull up a page with a bunch of variations on "All Lives Matter," so presumably they don't discriminate:
    https://www.cafepress.com/+all-lives-...

    Again, thanks for the heads-up Thoritsu, because my intent had been to go back to Zazzle to get these new ones made. You saved me a whole lot of frustration and anger. I owe you beer.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 1 month, 1 week ago
    I ordered some Zazzle stickers around four years ago:
    "Who is John Galt? Read Atlas Shrugged"
    "Socialism: You Make It, They Take It"
    "The Global Warming Scam: Just Another Path to Socialist Control"
    "If You Can't Feed 'Em, Don't Breed 'Em"
    "DIRECTIVE 10-289" (including the Obama logo in the background)

    These appear to still be available; however, I will proceed with your Zazzle boycott as it relates to your recent discoveries.
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    • Posted by $ 1 month, 1 week ago
      Their specific statement was "any play on BLM, detracts from reducing the systemic racism that exists..."

      I think they view the others as "harmless", but show their colors on this one.

      I also bought "Legalize Freedom" and "Who is John Galt" stickers, and they are on my truck.
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      • Posted by $ 1 month, 1 week ago
        "Legalize Freedom" confuses the crap out of people, and I get a lot of questions.

        An Indian guy came by while I was playing tennis at the local high school, and asked to take a picture of my truck. He said reading Ayn Rand caused him to come to the US, and were responsible for his success.
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