Invasion Scenario

Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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It's been asserted (by Oliver North) that ISIS has 3,000 members with valid U.S. passports.

The southern border is extremely porous.

The Obama admin only considered sending national guard troops to the border after governor Perry already did.

Let's say ISIS gets 3,000 into the country.

They select isolated towns/areas along the border... say the *Canadian* border. Probably in Michigan.

They launch an attack, perhaps disguising it as some kind of domestic uprising.

The Obama administration dithers. On purpose.

ISIS captures a town or two. The only resistance they're going to get is from armed locals.

While the country is focused up north, an invasion force captures a southern border town, using capture munitions and equipment from Iraq.

The only resistance there is going to be the border patrol and their beanbags (they won't invade where perry has post the Nat'l Guard, and even if they do, especially with the ROE the guard will be operating under, it will be a short fight).

Now ISIS can divide the country in half by driving up the Mississippi valley and linking the two forces. They have now secured their breaches in the border so they can ensure a further supply of troops and supplies, to use in addition to those captured from U.S. arsenals.

They'll have lots of support from the Moslem world, but also from looters looking to pick over the body of the U.S. once we're prostrate and dead.

Eventually they'll get to a point where they can sue for peace, and retain pockets of Islamic enclaves within the U.S. In a few years, they launch further attacks using these enclaves as staging areas, in order to gain more territorial control over the dying republic.

And it can happen because the Obama admin will only put up token, impotent resistance... on purpose, IMO.


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  • Posted by LionelHutz 9 years, 7 months ago
    Interesting scenario - but 3000 seems way too weak to actually produce results that stick.

    Anyone know the situation in Iraq regarding personal weapon possession? My guess is the USA has done such a good job disarming the populace, ISIS is able to take over an area without much resistance because they know opposition will be one-dimensional. They can count on it being only the local law enforcement which can be infiltrated, may be sympathetic, or at the very least can be anticipated. They try a hostage taking/beheading routine in Michigan and I suspect they'll have some initial success, but then immediately be surrounded by a well armed hunting citizenry who may well act on their own before the national guard even gets a chance to respond.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 7 months ago
    And where are the 300 million privately held firearms while this "drive up the Mississippi" is taking place? I think you are underestimating the militia and ex military.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 7 months ago
      No, I'm not. You really want to pit hunting rifles and AR-15s firing .225 against Abrams? Preceding the advance of the invaders will be the stories of their atrocities. It's one thing to stand the line in an honorable defense, it's another to know that you can try to stand and hope they won't get through you to your family, or you can take your family and run away.
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      • Posted by $ WillH 9 years, 7 months ago
        It's .223 not .225, and yes, I would pit us southerners against those terrorists any day of the week. A bunch of desert rats making their way up the Mississippi and trying to fight in the adjoining swamps? You also mentioned the Abrams. You cannot simply crew and operate an Abrams. They are not semi-auto like a lot of Russian tanks. They are manually loaded, and take training. Besides, tanks can easily fall into traps, men can step on punji sticks, and our hunting rifles make the .223 round look like the over sized .22 that it is. If anyone invades the US the south is not where it will be, unless they are into suicide without purpose.
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        • Posted by 9 years, 7 months ago
          yes, brain fart. I knew it was .223 but typoed .225 anyway.

          I'll agree about hunting rifles being superior to .223s, but there's no difference when facing main battle tanks.

          the ISIS troops doing doughnuts with the APC on the news the other day didn't seem to have too much trouble figuring out how to use American armor.

          But, I get your point. Everyone knows that gentlemen can outfight rabble.


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  • Posted by 9 years, 7 months ago
    When I say, "The Obama administration dithers.. on purpose", I don't mean in order to help ISIS, I mean they dither in hopes that the problem will go away.
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