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The virus, the facts, the news, and fake news

Posted by Lucky 2 weeks, 5 days ago to Science
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Sources that are probably reliable:

1. The Yale paper by by Dr Risch, posted here by FFA 3 days ago is long but is almost all you may need.

2. Facts about Covid-19, June 2020.
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-c...
This is highly recommended even tho' long. Arguments are well backed up and documented.
Some points:
- Overall death rate of Covid-19 about 0.1% , similar to a strong seasonal flu.
- Fatality average age 80
- Reports of young and healthy people dying often false.
- In many countries 2/3 of deaths were in nursing homes.
- Countries without curfews and contact bans not worse.
- Coronavirus vaccines are unnecessary, maybe dangerous.
- National cultural changes: some of the largest fundamental rights demonstrations in Europe have taken place in German cities with up to 25,000 participants, but in the UK the population approve of being locked in and want more!

Example of point above-
https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Neunjaeh...
Fake-news- '9 yo girl died of CCP19'
The real news- Swiss woman 109 yo booked in as 9 yo with death from CCP19.. (I used Prompt translator)

3. Hospitals overloading from CCP19 unprecedented - fake news,
https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/02/c...
Overloading, yes, but has happened before.

4. This may cause excitement. Are vaccines safe?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d4158...
16March2020. Don’t rush to deploy COVID-19 vaccines and drugs without sufficient safety guarantees
Vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, polio, smallpox and influenza have a long history of safe use,
[but now there are] ‘quick-fix’ programs,
vaccine developers [should] check for potentially harmful responses in animal studies. They must also be careful to assess healthy human volunteers for antibodies against any corona-viruses before enrolling them in safety trials. Funders should beware of hype, . . this could mean a vaccine is administered before its efficacy and safety have been fully evaluated in animal models or clinical trials.
The virus behind COVID-19 might well mutate in ways that would make previously effective vaccines and antivirals useless.
[as reported elsewhere]

5. It may work but only for a few months
https://www.ibtimes.com/coronavirus-a...
Fauci (that one) says a vaccine might not provide long-term immunity if COVID-19 behaves like other coronaviruses.
Fauci appears to own at least three hats- yes to vaccine, yes to cure, and now caution about vaccines.

6. Good source on the medical papers if you can handle the tech stuff.
https://www.medicineuncensored.com/


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    Posted by mcsandberg 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    A hearty Thanx! This confirms that we should never have shut down in the first place! The medical community advised the shutdowns out of ignorance. You never, ever take action in ignorance because you don't know whether you are harming or helping.

    Atlas Shrugged was supposed to be a warning, Not A Newspaper!
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    • Posted by lrshultis 2 weeks, 3 days ago
      Back in 1957-1958 H2N2 Asian flu which killed 116,000 in USA, I was a Junior in High school, there were no shutdowns or even social distancing. I don't even recall much concern about it, though there was just the 30 minute nightly news and the Chicago Tribune that I read daily to inform me.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    There's no antidote for mass stupidity except education. Unfortunately for all of us, often people choose not to seek out the truth.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Thank you for the additional information. It does get a bit tiresome in conversations (online and otherwise) with folks that do not care to take a look at the larger picture and conduct research that goes deeper than the offerings from the MSM. I found a recent article regarding the C19 pseudoscience of face masks, social distancing, etc:
    https://californiaglobe.com/section-2...

    Here is the six page highly-readable article:
    https://technocracy.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/pseudo-science-and-COVID-19.pdf
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  • Posted by Ben_C 2 weeks, 2 days ago
    THANK YOU for posting this paper. It confirms what many of us suspected from the start. I sent the link to my state representative and hopefully he will shove it in our governors face and say = "Read this!" I am so over this Covid crap.
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    • Posted by term2 2 weeks ago
      Agreed. Politicians want power, and this is a good way for them to get it. Scare the hell out of everyone (even though I dont know a single person who has gotten the covid-19 thing in Vegas)
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  • Posted by term2 2 weeks ago
    There is a really good analogy for the covid-19, and that is the TV series WALKING DEAD. Think of the virus as a zombie looking to bite non zombies. Our government has had us all hiding in our houses while the virus(zombies )wanders around looking for victims. The zombies dont disappear but just want for victims to emerge again and then it attacks them. The only way it stops is if most of the potential victims carry swords and chop the heads off the zombies. Once that happens, the number of zombies decreases until they are all eliminated by the "herd immunity" of strong people with swords. Pretty simple analogy I think
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  • Posted by term2 2 weeks ago
    I never liked Fauci. He seemed a bit too interested in being on TV and scaring us to be believed.
    If you flatten the curve, you extend the pandemic. The virus will take its course until herd immunity slows it down, or some sore of vaccine stops it cold. Hiding under your bed only prolongs the time you have to be afraid once you finally climb out from under it. While the virus is raging, it would make sense for the weak and old to stay away from it until somehow herd immunity or a vaccine kills it off. In this case, the young and strong should continue with their lives as they do with the normal influenza virus. That way we still have an economy !!!
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 2 weeks, 2 days ago
    Great job, Lucky. Especially as we warm up into "Lockdown2" coming to a community near you soon..and made a higher probability if your state was hijacked by democrats...
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