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    Posted by kddr22 3 years, 10 months ago
    We are fast approaching I think a separation point. Either we continue to clean out "swamp" and reinforce the Constitution or we will degenerate into the world near the end of Atlas Shrugged. remember, "contradictions do not exist if you think you are facing one check your premises..." This point is so relevant currently
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    • Posted by term2 3 years, 10 months ago
      I think that the collapse as depicted in AS is nearly a reality today, just somewhat slower than in the novel. But the end point is the same.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 10 months ago
        Yeah...I always thought the transition would be much slower. I thought it would continue on in this slow decline of American life that I've observed over my 50+ years. But, I think I underestimated the drive and fervor of the radical left. They smell blood in the water now. We're seeing innocent people being beaten with 2x4s openly in public simply for not welcoming looters into their place - with no chance of an recourse or arrests. Starting to look like it's "on" now. My office is closed today for fear we wouldn't make it in or out safely.

        This, my friends, is why it is important for law-abiding citizens to be able to have firearms.
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        • Posted by term2 3 years, 10 months ago
          The "entitlement" of the left gives them the moral power to do what they are doing. Its everywhere to day, and in the case of the black culture- it was fanned by Obama for sure.
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          • Posted by rhfinle 3 years, 10 months ago
            It doesn't appear to be the black community in general doing this. They are protesting, and rightly so, but the rioting appears to be a different group - mixed, black & white - that are in most cases out-of-towners. They arrested a bunch of rioters in Minneapolis and they all turned out to be from out-of-town. I suspect the fascist organization Antifa.
            The protests should be allowed and not interfered with, but as soon as it gets violent, the looters, vandals, and arsonists should be shot on sight. This is a coordinated attack on multiple fronts, on the American government, and on American citizens and businesses, and should be dealt with the same way we dealt with the Nazis.
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            • Posted by term2 3 years, 10 months ago
              Looks like Antifa is hiding among protesters making it difficult to just shoot them on sight in the heat of battle. Nevertheless, looters do need to be restrained and stopped before they damage property. Trump is right to call out national guard and military
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            • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 9 months ago
              The rioters and looters are almost 100% local. How do I know this? Until April 1 I lived in Minneapolis....only 1 mile from the 3rd Precinct. Here is a link to business and property damage: https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-...
              Not only have I patronized many of these businesses, I have enduring friendships among some of the owners. On the flip side, having spent a lot of time in the Hood, I have friendships, loosely, until I ascertain any involvement in the mayhem. The Lake Street corridor (Hiawatha Ave to Lyndale and 38th st. north into Downtown MSP is one of the most impoverished, and definitely the largest area of misbehavior in this metro area. Prosperity is fleeting. What I have now is my status in the Hood. Opportunism is a way of life....get it now before it's gone. That there may be inciters such as Antifa among this group...possible. I think it is more an eruption of multi-generational frustration.
              If you travel the corridor I mentioned from 10pm to 4am you can bet that 95% of those you see have police records. The death of George Floyd is an object lesson of "that could have happened to me", for these folks. I've seen this indignation arise a dozen times on a smaller scale. It is a frustration of entrapment, a mindless outburst of rage.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 3 years, 10 months ago
    I agree with many of the comments that that is looks like the societal collapse at the end of AS. Fox anchors and commentators have become divided. The major media are squabbling amongst themselves. They are claiming it all our fault for whats happening. I have a conspiracy for everyone what if the rioters and looters are being instigated by Soros and the CCP through social media. Both would love to see the disintegration of the USA into chaos.
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    • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 10 months ago
      Here is one example of the planned arson in the Twin Cities of Minnesota: https://needtoknow.news/2020/06/suspected-agent-provocateurs-who-incited-the-destruction-of-autozone-caught-on-video/

      I get the impression that much of the rioting and chaos is a process of fanning the flames. In one video you will see a hundred state police shoulder to shoulder and two blocks away the criminal elements are breaking windows and torching vehicles.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 3 years, 10 months ago
    "Is someone trying to tell us something?"

    Sure. But few have wanted to listen for 60+ years.
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 10 months ago
      Perhaps, 100 years or more completely, for the past 11 thousand something years...
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      • Posted by $ blarman 3 years, 10 months ago
        It's very interesting, but the study of human nature historically speaking belies the notion that human beings are progressing in morality. While we have certainly improved technologically, it is almost as if every human being has to learn for himself/herself what morality means and how they are going to live their own lives. And while the teaching of children is incredibly important, even then we can not discount the notion of free will. It seems that the human race will never reach that harmonious state depicted in Star Trek: The Next Generation, but in practical cases will probably end up a lot more like Firefly.
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        • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 10 months ago
          In the beginning, we followed the voice of our own schizophrenia, then the voice went away and we were lost for a time...then, painfully slowly, we gained the voice of self. Since, it's been a fight between the Mind and the temptations and perversions of our brains-inherited from our ancestors.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 10 months ago
    Tonight I sit with a gun at my side...
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    • Posted by Katrina41 3 years, 10 months ago
      Agreed. Likewise my daughter and her husband in San Antonio, my son and his family just a block away. In short, my entire large family is bunkered in, locked and loaded, and my nephew the State Patrolman has just been ordered to Columbus, OH for riot control...
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  • Posted by starznbarz 3 years, 10 months ago
    It`s gonna get worse before it gets better. This is what true change, as well as cleaning the swamp looks like. Trump will get another term, the communist left are showing just how terrified they are of that. Now is the time, a fair percentage of the generation coming of age now have been raised to capitulate, to wait for govt./ authorities to tell them what to do, we begin to turn it around now, or it will not happen.
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  • Posted by Arthgallo 3 years, 10 months ago
    No longer Nonfiction.
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    • Posted by term2 3 years, 10 months ago
      It was a prediction of what would happen under collectivist thinking- which is exactly what we have now. If Trump is re elected, we will get 4 years where he will stand partially in the way of expansion of rampant collectivism. After that, the leftists will take over and bring us to the end of ourthe line
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      • Posted by $ prof611 3 years, 10 months ago
        WHEN President Trump is reelected, there won't be any leftists left.
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        • Posted by $ servo75 3 years, 9 months ago
          Your words to Gd's ears, as my grandmother used to say. But I hope that, since Trump will, you know, "have more flexibility" in 2021, that the administration will start cracking down on this. I'm glad to see he finally declared Antifa a terrorist group. Took him 3.5 years? In a second term, he and Barr must come down with an iron fist on all these neo-Marxist tactics. Whether it's Anti-fa rioters or people trying to break into our country at the Southern border. Time to get tough. Use the full military to keep order if needed. Give them powerful weapons and the clearance to use them. Enough of this. Violence is justified to prevent violence. Have to start sending a message in language that they understand.
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      • Posted by Tippecanoe 3 years, 10 months ago
        It is true that Trump can at best be in there for us just another 4 years.

        But amendments and a return to the original intent of the Constitution by that means can last many decades.

        #ArticleV explained, COS Alabama>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVQH0J...
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        • Posted by $ servo75 3 years, 9 months ago
          The problem is that while the current Constitution is far from perfect, we'd be in pretty good shape if we just followed the one that existed. The problem comes (mainly) not from an inadequate document, but from one that's not being followed. So if we have a COS and get all these great amendments passed, what's the good if we don't even follow the ones we have?
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      • Posted by Tippecanoe 3 years, 10 months ago
        We can stop the collectivism, but it will be ugly and not easy since it has gone on for so long.

        George Soros fixes eye on new enemy, Tom Coburn responds
        > https://conventionofstates.com/news/g...
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        • Posted by term2 3 years, 10 months ago
          Imagine what would happen if we stopped the collectivism. Trump is ONLY slowing it down a bit and he is under heavy duty attack EVERY day. If a true Objectivist somehow made it into the white house, he would be killed almost immediately. I dont think they would even bother with impeachment.
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          • Posted by Tippecanoe 3 years, 10 months ago
            I doubt that Trump or an Objectivist would be killed like that.
            I think the socialists are too confident in their current path to go to that extreme.
            And I am quite happy to see them stopped.
            Socialism has never worked
            ---
            HISTORIC FAILURES (of socialism)
            https://www.dropbox.com/s/2kk3uooy90f...

            Jamestown Colony, Virginia, was started in 1607, on the communist plan of public ownership. Under that system the colony passed through the “Starving Time.” It did not thrive until the lands were divided among the settlers. Plymouth Colony, Massachusetts, was founded in 1620, also on the communist plan. The colonists suffered as they did in Jamestown until Governor William Bradford, a wise and practical administrator, gave to each colonist a lot of land to till and to hold in severalty. Then the colony prospered. Under the public ownership plan, if we may credit the statement of Governor Bradford, the colonists would not work industriously. They “let George do it,” and there “were no bones in the boneyard.” After the lands were divided, practical individual ownership succeeded where theoretical comradeship and brotherhood had failed. “What is everybody’s business is nobody’s concern.”
            The Founders of the Republic were familiar with the history of Jamestown and of Plymouth. Is it not probable that a prescience of statesmanship enabled them to discern the basic reasons for the failure of communism when they framed our Constitution and defended private ownership.
            At least fifty communist colonies have been attempted in America, and many in other parts of the world. Not one of them has survived. Communists all over the world came to admit that “Utopian Socialism,” as these failures are now called, can never be made to succeed. But they insisted that communism on a national scale could succeed, and that it would solve the economic problems of the ages.
            When Lenin and Trotsky seized the reins of government in Russia and established the “Soviet Union of Socialist Republics,” the event was hailed with delight by communists everywhere. Now, for the first time, communism was to be tried on a national scale! A tremendously large national scale! Now, at last, communism was to vindicate the claims of its disciples!
            As starvation, desolation and despair settled upon Russia, and her industries refused to revive under communism its deluded followers proclaimed the doctrine that communism could only succeed on an international scale—that all the world must be “socialized.”
            They admit that they were mistaken when they thought “Utopian Socialism” could succeed, and that they were mistaken when they thought that national communism could succeed. They are equally mistaken in the belief that international communism can ever feed and clothe and house the world. The same reasons for the failure of communism on a small scale apply with multiplied force to communism on a world-wide scale. Enlarging the pest house does not cure the disease. It only exposes more people to its ravages. It were better far to keep it isolated in the already stricken country of Russia, where America and other unaffected countries can send relief.

            -GW Cartwright 1925, California 2 term Democrat State Senator.
            https://remnantshighway.files.wordpre...
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            • Posted by term2 3 years, 10 months ago
              I am amazed at the way leftists ignore the failures of socialism, as if the IDEA of socialism is so great that there CANT be anything wrong with it
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 10 months ago
    For decades I've heard people say, "This is proof of the End Times" but I've read that people have been saying that for centuries.
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    • Posted by AmericanWoman 3 years, 10 months ago
      Is not the end times this is not as predicted in the Bible would happen what it is though is the forcing of Democraps control of the country and how they can and will never be able to accept HRC lost!
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      • Posted by term2 3 years, 10 months ago
        They hate Trump because he stands in the way of their total control over the population.
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        • Posted by AmericanWoman 3 years, 10 months ago
          Yes indeed and because President Trump along with many who are helped to turn over the lies and destruction of 8 years.
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          • Posted by term2 3 years, 10 months ago
            I do wish he was a bit more intellectually consistent in terms of personal freedom though. Instead of this crazy economic lockdown, I think it would have been better to put the onus on personal responsibility after the government simply put out there any data it had on how to protect yourself. It should have been up to businesses to take whatever precautions that were necessary to get customers to come to them.
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            • Posted by Tippecanoe 3 years, 10 months ago
              Actually, Trump did not try to control the states and the people in them regarding the shutdowns. He actually stated it was their responsibility. And it is.
              What happened was that some (most?) governors got too tyrannical. Some of them outlandishly so and still are.
              What should have happened is the people should have been properly informed (didn't happen) with facts, the states should have prepared with a plan, equipment, and supplies, and go from there.
              Instead, some chose to suffocate their state and allowed no personal responsibility at all.
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              • Posted by term2 3 years, 10 months ago
                I agree, and Trump shouldnt have paraded Fauci and the scarf lady every day to scare the people. They were way off on their predictions. Now we all pay the price in a damaged economy
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            • Posted by AmericanWoman 3 years, 10 months ago
              We had "Politically Correct" for years and supposed intelligence with the past administration "Harvard Grad" rolling my eyes...what did that attain? We all have slips of the tongue but I would rather face that then a grin that you know has evil behind it.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 10 months ago
        This is only a beginning to an end, we hope they fail but the worst is yet to come no matter how it turns out. We can only hope most will awaken and we all can prepare for the natural end to this cycle; hoping against hope that the creatures that torture us will not survive.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 3 years, 10 months ago
    There are many comments and/or theories about the big picture relating to the end of "Shrugged". I am pretty much in agreement with those.
    But, as I sit watching the chaos on tv I am reminded of the late '70s when I was in Tehran during the Sha's demise. I lived in the northern part of the city. I had to go into the city to reach the embassy for help trying to get a flight out. Protesters started marching the street chanting. The military arrived resulting in a standoff. The military used bullhorns to tell the crowd to disperse. I was among many on the sidewalk just watching. The crowd did not disperse and started moving towards the military. Then, the military just opened fire. Then everybody just tried to find cover inside stores or anywhere. There were bodies in the street. After about an hour in the bank where I took cover, I made my way out and walked several blocks over and with a stroke of luck found a taxi to get home.
    What I see on tv today is a squishy ooze of humanity that is squished out of one area into just another area for more chaos. It is entirely unproductive. Simple protest is NOT what is happening now. FORCE is the ONLY thing the radical elements will understand. Yes, just like the virus that stalks us now only bullets and/or bulldozers will stop the chaos. I have seen it.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 10 months ago
    Well, thank goodness Congress has not yet learned to control weather, so the tropical storm in on Nature.
    As to the virus and risots, I see a connection, neither were spontaneous accidents. The virus was paid for in part by the deep state medical groups from the US, and the riots were planned as only Obama and Soros know how to buy them. We have seen the same Alinky methods used over and over. Use the blacks to hurt blacks. Was the state Atty. Gen. a Soros bought position, as this cop was long overdue for being canne. I know one like him, yanked a little old black lady from her car when she did not move fast enought, caught on dash cam. He got canned then and thee. This guy somehow skated, or maybe had some help staying to be used for such a purpose as we now see.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 10 months ago
    Ayn Rand may be spinning in her grave and trying to send us a message, "Atlas is Shrugging!" As to the weather, well the Sun has tht one covered, luckily Congress has no control there.
    As to the Virus and the riots, well, that is Obama, Soros and their pals. All Trumps medl. advisors were Obama leftovers, most of whom have loyalty to China, and have used their alphabet organizations to send millions to that Chinese lab. We should be wary of Fauci, who knows that the grants called for creation of the virus, and "tacking the spread pattern" - what for future warfare purposes? As to the riots, they were just as well planned, so they could be in action within 72 hours. Busses crossing state lines to predetermined cities filled with ignorant thugs. Bricks and 2x4 were placed in advanced for use in causing damage and harm. Black Lives Matter were the busses, with most on board unaware that they are funded by Sosor money, a man who turned Jews into the Nazis for fun and money he stole from the dead Jews. Now, he is doing the same to black communites. ANTIFA members, equally unaware they are bought and paid for by Soros money, which belies their name. Tehy are causing harm to support the one world Marxist views of a man they should hate.
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  • Posted by alanj250 3 years, 9 months ago
    I am expecting a giant meteor any day now. We've already got Flamethrower Squirrels from North Korea making landfall in California, but since they are defunding Police, they have no resistance. lol
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 3 years, 9 months ago
    Except for the tropical depression (which is fairly predictable) the problem is that emotions are being used as tools of cognition and then being manipulated to create chaos.

    The best thing that could happen is that reason (rational thought) is applied to all situations and that one strong person can deliver an effective message delivering rational thought to each situation ...
    ...hence subduing emotional reactions.

    The Minneapolis police should have dismissed the "loose cannon" many years ago. He reacted with emotions and not reason to a very minor situation, hence setting off a horrible emotional counter-reaction.

    Is this scenario possible given the background of the "Deep State" combined with the "welfare state" ?
    Probably not.

    Time to "Go Galt".
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  • Posted by $ servo75 3 years, 9 months ago
    The Almighty God is angry at us sinners and is punishing us for the sins of the looters and moochers. We must all repent or be destroyed!

    Just kidding, actually I think George Soros has a secret "weather machine" in his basement. That's a much more sane theory ;)
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 10 months ago
    I'm growing tired of seeing different, very caustic forms of mental instability in our society. I was talking yesterday with this about my son. He's also confused and concerned about what he's seeing. His examples are some of his peers (teenagers) getting on social media (as are many "entertainers" and famous leftists) and saying things like how "all men" should take the blame, that they are so angry to hear people say "all lives matter", calls for violence, etc. Where are these people getting off saying this stuff? I explained to him that social media is a petri dish for cowards and blowhards. Also, that when people don't have a valid argument they turn to violence and mindlessly lashing out.

    Yesterday a beautiful lady friend of mind (the sweetest person I know) was out with her 10 years old daughter and she was threatened by two teenage boys on bicycles. Why? Because the kids knew they could get away with it. No other reason. She called the county sheriff and they said they wouldn't do anything about it. So the boys returned and threatened her again. I've seen many examples of racism towards white people lately. It's explained as some sort of new, woke view people are enlightened with. It's disgusting. The videos are out there. The one yesterday of those "youths" attacking that young couple with 2x4s was disgusting. It was attempted murder in my view.

    So, last night we got word from a law enforcement connection that the "protesters" in the city were going to be showing up in some of the suburbs, including my neighborhood. So, I slept locked and loaded in the front room. What's going to happen soon is some of these idiots are going get get wound up enough to go attack families in their suburb homes and you'll hear about a handful of these protesters being dropped in the streets and yards. What will be the response then from the woke Hollywood leftists? A call for even more violence? I think so. The street I live on is well-armed George Floyd sympathizers who just want to keep their loved ones safe.

    I can not wrap my head around this desire for blood in our country. It reeks of communism and last night reminded me of the stories my French mother-in-law tells about hiding in their homes sheepishly waiting for the Nazi soldiers to leave... odd similarity.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 10 months ago
    It may not be: "Someone trying to tell us something" but it has been foretold and to the serious integrated observer, it would seem to be a cycle, a cycle that plaques those without wits, those with weak or undeveloped minds and certainly those that are up to no good.

    Yes, it would seem, upon close inspection, that the Cosmos is at war with us.

    Only those with strong Minds will survive. That is not to say that the remaining can't be awakened.
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  • Posted by Tippecanoe 3 years, 10 months ago
    A Convergence of Evil.
    The events going on now and over the past years are converging together at the same period of time. Some apparent sources and the goals are:
    Communism, mostly China CCP - World domination
    MSM (main stream media, leftist also) - World domination
    Islam -World domination
    "Education" (leftist controlled K-12, Universities, etc) - World domination
    Antifa
    Rioting at the end of May 2020 in the US
    Anti-White racism promoted by all the above, as well as other racism.
    The now socialist Democrat party in the USA - World Domination
    * There is always more but....

    The real source is an embittered Satan, who did not achieve world domination a very long time ago.

    CCP Method: Chinese Communist Party’s global agenda—coronavirus outbreak is the latest wakeup call
    > https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...

    The Media Did This
    > https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...

    Rev 12 comes to mind.
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  • Posted by TWOBerry 3 years, 10 months ago
    Donald Trump is whoever Wesley Mouch would have befriended if he existed. My hero Ayn Rand would be appalled at the suggestion that Obama had anything but the best interests of American citizens in mind. If "someone [is] trying to tell us something," it's that God exists and She is trying to tell us to use our brains and leave our weapons at home, and wear masks until a safe vaccine is developed. If, as I believe, there is no God, then we should use our brains anyway.
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