I agree with you. I rarely edit, and I meant to have a question mark after abuse, abandonment. I think the legal system compounds the problems not the solutions.

Fact is those that keep there children only out legal obligation do damage to them. They need parents who want them, and will take care of them. I think such parents to be an anomaly but one that has been becoming more frequent in the last few years.

In my view its very simple. Life begins at conception. However my views are not others views. The me the choice is in if one wishes to risk pregnancy not if one wants to get an abortion after getting pregnant. I however have no right to force my views on others.

This is a personal matter that really only involves the woman who is pregnant, the man she conceived with and the doctor that would perform the abortion. Each must be comfortable with the choice. If one of those three is not they could bring the courts in to help decide the outcome, but otherwise the government has no place in forcing a doctor to perform murder, or a woman to keep the child she does not want.

I am odd in that I take this view through any of the childhood years where the child is unable to fend for itself. A two year old is just as dependent on someone else as a unborn baby. Without someone to care for it, the child will die. If the parents wish to abandon the child and no one wishes to step up to take care of the child should the government get involved there? Once again I say no.

It is up the people directly involved as to if they perceive the need to protect that child who cannot protect itself or let them parish, or even assist in there deaths as in the chines dying rooms.

When I am not personally involved my opinion means nothing. That is what many people in this country need to learn about a great many things; abortion being a good example.

Every person must make there own choice as to when life begins. Once life has begun it is murder to snuff it out.

I knew you were going to do that. I am a mother you know. :)
you are making a moral assumption that sex should only occur if you are willing to raise a child. birth control is not 100%. a woman should be allowed to have sex without the risk of having a baby. you should not be able to decide her risks or responsibilities in that regard.

The fact that you equate a pregnant body with a crashed up car is disturbing.

The better use of your metaphor would be, using abortion to terminate any pregnancy you feel like terminating is like driving a car recklessly and saying "as long as I can pay for the damages, it doesn't matter who I hit." With that mentality you're abdicating responsibility for a possible outcome of driving before it happens. When you drive it's important to try your hardest to not get into accidents, not just be able to pay for accidents when you do get into them, because the effects of an accident are more often than not more than monetary.

asked and answered.
she takes on the responsibility of deciding to terminate the pregnancy,.
if I'm in an accident, I take responsibility for fixing the other drivers car and mine as well. I don't have to just live with a crashed up car.

in our society there is a legal obligation. can you see that it helps? fewer abuses, abandonment
most parents are going to value and love their children. we don't need a legal obligation

I don't think you've read his responses on the "religious" posts. you're confusing him with someone else

Oh so that wasn't you taking the christian side in all the religious posts? And your arguments in this thread are completely scientifically sound?

Responsibility for her actions and what they mean.

Do parents have an obligation to their child?

Yummy!

Why, thank you. That's a nice thing to say.
I'm sure there were times when I was a teenager they didn't feel that way!
That's pretty amazing about your second son. Nice way to remember the day. Mine was Bill Clinton's second inauguration.... A sign????

Well, I am so glad that your natural parents decided to have their child, as I am sure your adoptive parents are also. I also miscarried my first son and exactly to the day, 12 yrs later, my second was born. You are a productive member of society and the world would be worse off without you. Again, it is not our decision to decide what is best for someone else. Only that person can live with their own choices.

Well, you are a Christian.

and the reality includes the ability to terminate the process that might lead to a human being. how is she not accepting responsibility?

LOL omg....dying lol.

Good luck with the book. When it is published, make sure we know, so we can support our producers !!!

Roasted muskrat is usually the way it is prepared also, but I was messing with him on the turtle soup, better known as snapper soup here.

You are clearly not reading my posts. Everything I said allows ample room to argue for an abortion in cases of rape, incest, medical tragedies, and other unforeseeable circumstances.