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  • Posted by 4 years ago
    Pompous boasting bureaucrat. Would you choose this guy as a doctor? Would you listen to his advice?
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    • Posted by Dobrien 4 years ago
      Hell no. I have known him for 29 years. He is very good at entrenching his power. His bad science almost cost my daughter her life. In late 1990 Fauci and an infectious disease FDA panel recommended that Baxter- travenol not screen and remove Hepatitis C infected blood donors from the product Gamma Guard the idea was that recievers would get anti-bodies for HEP C as an added benefit from those infected people. . Right after that 1990 decision, my daughter was diagnosed with strep throat. Her doctor prescribed med for that and one of the side effects unfortunately effected her.
      I carried her two days later into The emergency room with Avery high heart rate. The side effect was acute AIHA Auto Immune Hemalitic Anemia. As opposed to chronicAIHA.
      Her white blood cells were eating her red blood cells. Her heart and respiratory system were on overdrive trying to deliver oxygen to her body.
      The immediate treatment was to infuse Gamma Guard a product packed with hemoglobin concocted from literally thousands of blood donors. A few Weeks later I read a story in the WSJ that 7 people had contracted Hep C from GammaGuard. Sure enough I talked to her specialist Dr about it. First he said she didn’t have that prod. , I respectfully disagreed and the nurse verified that I was correct. Two vials of her blood were to be sent to Atlanta CDC infectious disease administration. At the time gene seQuencing or genetic markers was how to get diagnosed. The process would be 4-6 mos.. After 9 mos had expired and no results and a fairly apathetic specialists office about the situation. I had my first conversation with Fauci. See , I had been talking to the NAtional institute of Health liver specialist on and off for 5 mos learning everything he knew about the consequences of having Hepatitis C.
      I learned how this tainted product was approved and I learned of Fauci’s involvement for the first time. Fauci took my call and I explained that we have been waiting for the results from my daughters blood sample. Fauci asked me to hold he set the phone down and l could hear his footsteps as he went to retrieve something. Quickly he returned and asked my daughters birthday. I told him . He asked her Initials and he said was she at Children’s Hospital in St Paul. Yup.
      Fauci said “we lost the name card so we have just been storing this sample” . He then said they would “put a fast track on it”. “ Results should be to your doctor in a few weeks” of course they weren’t and we had our second conversation a month later. This time he apologized and put me on hold .He said just instructed his technician to start ASAP on it. Since he was somewhat contrite I started to grill him on what he knew about Hep C. In short order i knew he had little knowledge of its long term consequences and the fact at the time it was incurable and ultimately resulted in kidney failure. Shortly after that conversation within the week.We got the diagnosis that yes my 9 year old had Hepatitis C. Phil Paffley from Robins Kaplan Miller and Cersei called me and wanted my daughter to be “ the poster girl” for the lawsuit they were bringing against Baxter.
      The lawyers wanted another sample sent to CDC fir verification. That presented me with a few additional conversations with Fauci. When I confronted Him at that time about the FDA panels decision to include HEP C infected blood into GammaGuard his best excuse was “it was the best science at the time”. Haha Now if you did your homework you would find the 4 HIV patents Fauci owns will be needed for any vaccine related to COVID19 type a,b,c,d,e,. Maybe his estimate of up to 2,000,000 US fatalities makes a bit more sense. Since then a worldwide administered vaccine for all on the planet is being pushed. Or his close friendship with Gates and the accused Ethiopian genocidal WHO Director General. Plus plus plus....
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years ago
        I work in infection control. I work with government agencies. I work with doctors. I work with hospitals. Looks like you've seen the light. I have seen things in my work... Everybody is welcome to their opinion. The problem arises when they feel their opinion should be administered with the force of government. It doesn't work! In the case of the government/healthcare nexus it kills and cripples. I'm sorry, Dobrien, about your daughter's struggles.

        Government is the gun for the opinionated...
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK18v...
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      • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years ago
        Very interesting Post. He sounds like a doctor I encountered when my 7 month old son wound up in the hospital. I threw a baby bottle the length of the quarantine ward. That got some attention.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years ago
    Maybe a bit of both, I would suspect. Just a gut response.

    In the position he is in, he would have to know what other evil scientists are working on.

    Universal Flu Vaccine!?...why not just allow everyone to have a healthy immune system?
    In my mind, it doesn't get any more universal than that.
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
      Some people are immune, others susceptible. Some people are allergic to strawberries, others to peanuts, many people to neither. The word "universal" does not apply well to people.

      I heard a handwringing feature on NPR about the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic. Following it, the 1920s were a boom time; in fact, there was a baby boom. The general population was healthier with 50 to 100 million weeded out. That being as it may, though, the loss of 50 to 100 million otherwise productive people did no one any good. To think otherwise is the fallacy of the broken window.

      I think that the best solution is individualized proactive medical care. That will take a paradigm shift as radical as the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution. We all have handtools. Many of us own an array of powertools. Some even have home workshops. The next century may bring the home health lab.I wrote about Do-it-Yourself Biohackers on my blog here:
      https://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/2...
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
    Dr. Anthon Fauci shares six patents, as co-inventor. The patents are not theirs to own. You own the patents.

    Patents

    Arthos J, Good D, Cicala C, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America, as represented by the Secretary, Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. Use of antagonists of the interaction between HIV GP120 and A4B7 integrin. United States patent US 9,193,790. 2015 Nov 24.

    Arthos J, Cicala C, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. Fusion protein including of CD4. United States patent US 7,368,114. 2008 May 6.

    Scala G, Chen X, Cohen OJ, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. HIV related peptides. United States patent US 6,911,527. 2005 Jun 28.

    Lane HC, Kovacs JA, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. Immunologic enhancement with intermittent interleukin-2 therapy. United States patent US 6,548,055. 2003 Apr 15.

    Lane HC, Kovacs JA, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. Immunologic enhancement with intermittent interleukin-2 therapy. United States patent US 6,190,656. 2001 Feb 20.

    Lane HC, Kovacs JA, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and
    Human Services, assignee. Immunologic enhancement with intermittent interleukin-2 therapy. United States patent US 5,696,079. 1997 Dec 9.

    See here at the bottom:
    https://www.niaid.nih.gov/research/an...
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 years ago
    I don't see what the problem is here. A prognosticator in his field got it right this time. I don't need to be in his field of expertise to pipe up every January 1st and declare there will be an outbreak of infectious disease the coming year and get it right now and then. I don't have to be a geologist to predict there will be an earthquake in California the coming year or a meteorologist to predict a hurricane will brush Florida or Louisiana.

    So here on January 10, 2017 he predicted a serious "surprise" outbreak and on January 26, 2020 he was telling the American people not to worry about anything. It took over two years to get the first guess right and two weeks to get the second guess wrong. We can clearly see that in spite of his expertise, he is not a god.
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    • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years ago
      Right after his 2nd prediction I saw the WHO said the same thing and, knowing what they're made of, I sold most of my equities in a hurry.

      https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

      Good move, as the market tanked a week later when the scat hit the fan. He's not a god. I like some things he's said. I'm concerned he's positioning for certain interests. I knew the WHO did. And...knowing is half the battle.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 4 years ago
        I been out of equities for a while now. I loved to "play the market" in years past and did very well, but one of my personal rules has been (since 1987 crash at least) is "if you can't pay attention to the market, get out of the market". When I retired I wanted to do a lot of things with my life besides fool with the stock market so I moved what many would call considerable wealth out of equities. Looking back I see I could have made a fortune here and lost my ass there, but for me and my wife it's all been quite steady with modest gains and virtually no losses. If I live to be 100 I'll still give the kids a nice Christmas present.
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        • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years ago
          Good for you. I was a Series 7 and 66 and ran my own advisory business. I did this as a second job! The only other example I know of that was an airline pilot in a local firm. It was a lot of work. But, I loved it. May do it again (or something related) when I hang up my engineering work in a couple years.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
    Dr, Anthony Fauci has spent his career in this field. He can be wrong about economics, religion, or pairing wines and meats, but this is his area of proven expertise. He cited specific examples that fit the general case: HIV-AIDS, Ebola, and Zika.

    From 37:15, he gave his general prescription:
    Global surveillance
    Transparency in communication
    Infrastructure capacity
    and
    Platform screening.

    At 39:48, he said that a new outbreak of something previously unpredicted is inevitable because that is the nature of the phenomenon.

    He served five administrations before this one:
    Reagan
    Bush-41
    Clinton
    Bush-43
    Obama

    His work is neither mystical prescience nor conspiratorial foreknowledge any more than would be the appearance of a comet that was predicted by an astronomer.

    On the utility of platform screening, I attended this presentation on diagnostic screening at the University of Texas in 2013:
    The patient feels bad and goes to a doctor for treatment. Tests are run. A cause is hypothesized and treatments begin while the patient’s course is monitored. The shortcomings with the standard approach begin with the fact that we have to wait until we feel bad to get a diagnosis. Also, tests are heterogeneous: any symptom suggests many tests.

    [Dr. Thomas] Kodadek then offered a better approach. His theory is that antigens must exist before symptoms reach perceptible levels: you are sick before you have a fever. With pre-symptomatic screening we could monitor for any active disease in its early stage, before the symptoms appear. His recommended course is to routinely monitor the levels of dozens of disease-specific antibodies as part of any periodic medical check-up.

    To achieve that, we need to develop a large, broad, and deep array of synthetic artificial molecules that act as antigen surrogates. This is possible through combinatorial chemistry.

    https://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/2...
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    • Posted by Dobrien 4 years ago
      so What if he served the previous horseshit administrations. After all those years look at the job he did .We are now destroying our economy and the worlds because our CDC is hapless and has done nothing to protect us.
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      • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
        Allow me to +1 that for being bold enough to make what might be an unpopular proposal. You are advocating that the CDCP should have police powers to proactively test and quarantine people.

        That may be fully consistent with Objectivist legal theory and its application to the constituion of a limited government republic.

        In 1972, Edwin Newman interviewed Ayn Rand for his show “Speaking Freely” on NBC-TV. Among other statements, Ayn Rand said: “But on the matter of protecting people from physical danger, if certain conditions of employment, let us say, are unsafe and it can be proved that there is a physical risk – I don’t say that we have to wait until somebody dies – then the employer who is creating this risk can be sued, and can be severely punished financially. In other words, there can be a law protecting a man from physical injury by another man. In this case, the employer who puts men into conditions of danger – not accidentally, but intentionally or carelessly – can be penalized because he is infringing the right of his workers not to be injured physically.” (That and other transcripts are collected in the anthology Objectively Speaking: Ayn Rand Interviewed, edited by Marlene Podritske and Peter Schwartz; Lexington Books, 2009.)
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        • Posted by Lucky 4 years ago
          Yes, Rand put it well.
          The employer -not accidentally, but intentionally or carelessly-
          allowed his people to work in unsafe conditions.

          Related point. How can the gov of China be sued? Little evidence (so far) about deliberately creating danger, but they intentionally allowing a danger to exist and spread fully aware of the harm.

          On Fauci, I understand he publicly contradicted a Trump recommendation by saying 'it is not safe'. Most medications have risks but are not called unsafe. His statement was not just wrong, but impertinent and possibly malicious. He is paid by Gates, will benefit from sales of a new vaccine and not from the use of other treatments.
          The real question is can he be trusted, and does he give impartial expert advice?
          Clearly, No, and No.
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          • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
            Again, if this administration is draining the swamp, why is Fauci still standing next to the President? The President fired CPT Brett Crozier of the Theodore Roosevelt and then fired the acting SecNav for carrying out the order. "Your're fired!" was Donald Trump's reality-TV catch-phrase. Considering the constant churn in the executive branch, given your accusations, it is not clear why the President keeps Dr. Anthony Fauci.
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            • Posted by Lucky 4 years ago
              I agree, in this case, seems Trump made one mistake in keeping him on, then another in not firing on the spot after the notorious intervention.
              Explaining Fauci is easier than explaining Trump.
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      • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
        But he serves in this administration now, (which is draining the swamp but kept him).
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        • Posted by Dobrien 4 years ago
          The Swamp is vast and deep. Not sure he serves the administration. I don’t think the CDC is part of the executive branch. May be he is exposing himself. Never stop an enemy from destroying himself. Of course you know that.
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          • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
            The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is an agency within the Department of Health and Human Services.

            https://www.hhs.gov/about/agencies/hh...

            and

            https://www.cdc.gov/about/organizatio...

            There are very few independent federal agencies. I cannot think of one, off hand. Even the Chair of the Federal Reserve (a private bank which was chartered to buy Treasury Bonds) is appointed by the President with the Advice and Consent of the Senate.

            Dr. Fauci was appointed Director of NIAID in 1984. -- https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/antho...
            As far as I can tell, he is not civil service. He was appointed by President Reagan and that was confirmed repeatedly, including by the current President.
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            • Posted by Dobrien 4 years ago
              National Emergency as per http://whitehouse.gov
              Please read you will see President Trump is not a dictator yet a leader who follows the law. As opposed to the TDS Schiff show in concert with the establishment(swamp).

              My decision to make this determination pursuant to section 501(b) of the Stafford Act is based on the fact that our entire country is now facing a significant public health emergency. The World Health Organization has officially declared that we are in the midst of a global pandemic. As of the date of this declaration, 32 states, 3 territories, 4 tribes, and 1 tribal nation, spread geographically across our country, have declared a state of emergency as a result of the virus. Only the Federal Government can provide the necessary coordination to address a pandemic of this national size and scope caused by a pathogen introduced into our country. It is the preeminent responsibility of the Federal Government to take action to stem a nationwide pandemic that has its origins abroad, which implicates its authority to regulate matters related to interstate matters and foreign commerce and to conduct the foreign relations of the United States. For example, the Federal Government, through the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and its component, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), has authority to take the necessary steps “to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the States or possessions, or from one State or possession into any other State or possession,” 42 U.S.C. § 264(a), in close coordination with State, local, and tribal officials. In addition, the Federal Government has responsibility for securing our borders and overseeing entry of foreign nationals into our country in the interest of the United States.
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  • Posted by exceller 4 years ago
    Fauci says a lot of things.

    As the Chief Bureaucrat of the CDC, he has to say something. This is not the first occasion he was "projecting" events that never took place.

    He probably thinks that warning about outbreak is safer than saying the opposite. If it doesn't happen, nobody cares. But if he mitigates the future state and an outbreak occurs, that'll be more difficult to explain.
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
      You are wrong. Dr. Anthony Fauci is not the chief bureaucrat of the CDC.

      The Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is Robert R. Redfield, MD. He also holds the post of Administrator of the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry. -- https://www.cdc.gov/about/leadership....

      (If you want to voice an opinion, at least get the basic facts straight.)

      Do you have any examples of him "saying a lot things" that are wrong?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years ago
    Saw a report today that suggests he wants people to start carrying immunity paperwork for this virus. More and more of this. I'm already carrying enough paperwork. And, frankly, the thought pisses me off. I hope what I'm hearing about him is false.

    Absolute power...
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
      That proposal may be within the proper purview of the government. See my reply below to debrief. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

      Consider that state and local laws vary but just broadly, in most places you can carry a rifle without a permit, but not a handgun because concealable. In other places you can wear that handgun openly, but still need a permit to carry concealed. The underlying rationale is that you cannot be allowed to be a hidden danger to other people.

      That is the same theory on drunk driving. Now, a strong libertarian might argue that you can drive drunk as a skunk as long as you do not injure anyone (or damage property). If you injure someone, that is the violation. Drunknesses or sobriety are not germane. However, most people, including libertarians and Objectivists, recognize that impared driving (DUI DWI; even texting, I suppose) is undeniably dangerous to others and therefore must not be allowed. (Now, truly, if you have enough land of your own, you can drive drunk or blindfolded as you see fit. The rules apply to your actions in public.)

      So, perhaps it is within the purview of the goverrnment to proactively test people for communicable diseases. If you do not accept that, then you should explain why with reasons founded on objective law. Perhaps you can find a cogent quote from Ayn Rand.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 4 years ago
        "... government to proactively test people for communicable diseases." Search and seizure without probable cause may come in to play here. To search you for a virus on your person you are extremely not likely to have they would have to show you probably have it to a judge and then get a warrant. Don't need a cogent quote from Ayn Rand to pose that argument.
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        • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
          You do not know what a "Terry Stop" is.

          See Ayn Rand's statements on gun control and capital punishment.

          See also her comments on enforcement of safe workplaces cited below.
          https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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          • Posted by mccannon01 4 years ago
            You wanted a possible argument. I gave you one.

            The conditions change if the person in question has the virus, knows he/she has the virus, and deliberately spreads it anyway.

            A "Terry Stop" has to have at least "reasonable suspicion" where (from wiki) "reasonable suspicion" is a legal standard of proof in United States law that is less than probable cause, the legal standard for arrests and warrants, but more than an "inchoate and unparticularized suspicion or 'hunch'";[1] it must be based on "specific and articulable facts", "taken together with rational inferences from those facts". Therefore, arguably, a Terry Stop can't be utilized willy-nilly to stop people to shove a swab down their throat, up their nose, or take a blood sample.

            Ayn Rand's opinions, as wonderful as they may be, are irrelevant here.
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
      This was posted to The Hill https://thehill.com/homenews/administ...
      and also to Politico
      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04...

      It is within the proper constitutional limits of power as defined within objective law for the government to ensure me that you are not a danger to my safety.

      We had smallpox vaccinations for generations. My scar was my proof that I could be admitted to a state university. The polio vaccinations of the 1950s and 1960s are another example. For my daughter's generation it became the DPT shot to get into school. I have long maintained on forums such as this one that coming to work sick should be an actionable civil offense because it is a threat to the right to life of other people. You are perfectly free to live in the woods by yourself. Seriously, See my post here on Basement Nukes (https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post.... In a world where national governments cannot protect you, closed communities are a likely development. We would just liock the city gates against people who are not shown to have been immunized.

      This is not Orwell. I can show you examples from America in the 19th century. I just submitted an article for publication about Dr. John Leonard Riddlell and the yellow fever epidemic in New Orleans 1853. It so happened that long-time residents of New Orleans who were in good general health survived a mild case of yellow fever and hence were immune to the new outbreak. Foreigners, aliens, travelers, itinerants, and others like them were suspect.



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    • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years ago
      This is more of their control crap. I don't even know why we still count Americans by ethnicity or color. Who cares? Americans are Americans. Let's all grow up.
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      • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 4 years ago
        You conflated several topics into one short statement. I don't know what ethnicity and color have to do with this. When does a foreigner become an American? And what changes for that person at that moment - aside from being able to vote?
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        • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years ago
          A foreigner usually becomes an American when he or she becomes a citizen. I have numerous friends in this category and they are more Patriotic than some natural borns I know. What is the purpose of categorizing people. And I didn't change subjects, the news media is saying the Coronavirus is killing an abnormal number of black people.It seems to me some people try to find a reason to do this sort of thing,.
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