There's the beef. Thanks, DOB. 👍 (Detailed data condensed to make a point.)

https://youtu.be/gAtKnciEVB4

Good for you. I was a Series 7 and 66 and ran my own advisory business. I did this as a second job! The only other example I know of that was an airline pilot in a local firm. It was a lot of work. But, I loved it. May do it again (or something related) when I hang up my engineering work in a couple years.

I been out of equities for a while now. I loved to "play the market" in years past and did very well, but one of my personal rules has been (since 1987 crash at least) is "if you can't pay attention to the market, get out of the market". When I retired I wanted to do a lot of things with my life besides fool with the stock market so I moved what many would call considerable wealth out of equities. Looking back I see I could have made a fortune here and lost my ass there, but for me and my wife it's all been quite steady with modest gains and virtually no losses. If I live to be 100 I'll still give the kids a nice Christmas present.

Right after his 2nd prediction I saw the WHO said the same thing and, knowing what they're made of, I sold most of my equities in a hurry.

https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

Good move, as the market tanked a week later when the scat hit the fan. He's not a god. I like some things he's said. I'm concerned he's positioning for certain interests. I knew the WHO did. And...knowing is half the battle.

You wanted a possible argument. I gave you one.

The conditions change if the person in question has the virus, knows he/she has the virus, and deliberately spreads it anyway.

A "Terry Stop" has to have at least "reasonable suspicion" where (from wiki) "reasonable suspicion" is a legal standard of proof in United States law that is less than probable cause, the legal standard for arrests and warrants, but more than an "inchoate and unparticularized suspicion or 'hunch'";[1] it must be based on "specific and articulable facts", "taken together with rational inferences from those facts". Therefore, arguably, a Terry Stop can't be utilized willy-nilly to stop people to shove a swab down their throat, up their nose, or take a blood sample.

Ayn Rand's opinions, as wonderful as they may be, are irrelevant here.

You do not know what a "Terry Stop" is.

See Ayn Rand's statements on gun control and capital punishment.

See also her comments on enforcement of safe workplaces cited below.
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

ThanQ FFA. That is clearly the enemy destroying himself.

I work in infection control. I work with government agencies. I work with doctors. I work with hospitals. Looks like you've seen the light. I have seen things in my work... Everybody is welcome to their opinion. The problem arises when they feel their opinion should be administered with the force of government. It doesn't work! In the case of the government/healthcare nexus it kills and cripples. I'm sorry, Dobrien, about your daughter's struggles.

Government is the gun for the opinionated...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK18v...

"... government to proactively test people for communicable diseases." Search and seizure without probable cause may come in to play here. To search you for a virus on your person you are extremely not likely to have they would have to show you probably have it to a judge and then get a warrant. Don't need a cogent quote from Ayn Rand to pose that argument.

You assume the government will get this right.

Good luck with that, Mike.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020...

National Emergency as per http://whitehouse.gov
Please read you will see President Trump is not a dictator yet a leader who follows the law. As opposed to the TDS Schiff show in concert with the establishment(swamp).

My decision to make this determination pursuant to section 501(b) of the Stafford Act is based on the fact that our entire country is now facing a significant public health emergency. The World Health Organization has officially declared that we are in the midst of a global pandemic. As of the date of this declaration, 32 states, 3 territories, 4 tribes, and 1 tribal nation, spread geographically across our country, have declared a state of emergency as a result of the virus. Only the Federal Government can provide the necessary coordination to address a pandemic of this national size and scope caused by a pathogen introduced into our country. It is the preeminent responsibility of the Federal Government to take action to stem a nationwide pandemic that has its origins abroad, which implicates its authority to regulate matters related to interstate matters and foreign commerce and to conduct the foreign relations of the United States. For example, the Federal Government, through the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and its component, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), has authority to take the necessary steps “to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the States or possessions, or from one State or possession into any other State or possession,” 42 U.S.C. § 264(a), in close coordination with State, local, and tribal officials. In addition, the Federal Government has responsibility for securing our borders and overseeing entry of foreign nationals into our country in the interest of the United States.

I agree, in this case, seems Trump made one mistake in keeping him on, then another in not firing on the spot after the notorious intervention.
Explaining Fauci is easier than explaining Trump.

Dr. Anthon Fauci shares six patents, as co-inventor. The patents are not theirs to own. You own the patents.

Patents

Arthos J, Good D, Cicala C, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America, as represented by the Secretary, Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. Use of antagonists of the interaction between HIV GP120 and A4B7 integrin. United States patent US 9,193,790. 2015 Nov 24.

Arthos J, Cicala C, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. Fusion protein including of CD4. United States patent US 7,368,114. 2008 May 6.

Scala G, Chen X, Cohen OJ, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. HIV related peptides. United States patent US 6,911,527. 2005 Jun 28.

Lane HC, Kovacs JA, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. Immunologic enhancement with intermittent interleukin-2 therapy. United States patent US 6,548,055. 2003 Apr 15.

Lane HC, Kovacs JA, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services, assignee. Immunologic enhancement with intermittent interleukin-2 therapy. United States patent US 6,190,656. 2001 Feb 20.

Lane HC, Kovacs JA, Fauci AS, inventors; The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and
Human Services, assignee. Immunologic enhancement with intermittent interleukin-2 therapy. United States patent US 5,696,079. 1997 Dec 9.

See here at the bottom:
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/research/an...

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is an agency within the Department of Health and Human Services.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/agencies/hh...

and

https://www.cdc.gov/about/organizatio...

There are very few independent federal agencies. I cannot think of one, off hand. Even the Chair of the Federal Reserve (a private bank which was chartered to buy Treasury Bonds) is appointed by the President with the Advice and Consent of the Senate.

Dr. Fauci was appointed Director of NIAID in 1984. -- https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/antho...
As far as I can tell, he is not civil service. He was appointed by President Reagan and that was confirmed repeatedly, including by the current President.

The Swamp is vast and deep. Not sure he serves the administration. I don’t think the CDC is part of the executive branch. May be he is exposing himself. Never stop an enemy from destroying himself. Of course you know that.

Again, if this administration is draining the swamp, why is Fauci still standing next to the President? The President fired CPT Brett Crozier of the Theodore Roosevelt and then fired the acting SecNav for carrying out the order. "Your're fired!" was Donald Trump's reality-TV catch-phrase. Considering the constant churn in the executive branch, given your accusations, it is not clear why the President keeps Dr. Anthony Fauci.

But he serves in this administration now, (which is draining the swamp but kept him).

Agree...and thanks, I'll check that out.

I always wished I could check out things myself...nothing like seeing with your own eyes.

The Great Awakening...Where We Go One We Go All.

Some people are immune, others susceptible. Some people are allergic to strawberries, others to peanuts, many people to neither. The word "universal" does not apply well to people.

I heard a handwringing feature on NPR about the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic. Following it, the 1920s were a boom time; in fact, there was a baby boom. The general population was healthier with 50 to 100 million weeded out. That being as it may, though, the loss of 50 to 100 million otherwise productive people did no one any good. To think otherwise is the fallacy of the broken window.

I think that the best solution is individualized proactive medical care. That will take a paradigm shift as radical as the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution. We all have handtools. Many of us own an array of powertools. Some even have home workshops. The next century may bring the home health lab.I wrote about Do-it-Yourself Biohackers on my blog here:
https://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/2...

As the father of a daughter myself, I understand your animosity for Anthony Fauci. Thank you for your narrative. If you could add dates and times, it would make a powerful article for any of several widely read blogs, such as Savvy Street or American Thinker.

Yes, Rand put it well.
The employer -not accidentally, but intentionally or carelessly-
allowed his people to work in unsafe conditions.

Related point. How can the gov of China be sued? Little evidence (so far) about deliberately creating danger, but they intentionally allowing a danger to exist and spread fully aware of the harm.

On Fauci, I understand he publicly contradicted a Trump recommendation by saying 'it is not safe'. Most medications have risks but are not called unsafe. His statement was not just wrong, but impertinent and possibly malicious. He is paid by Gates, will benefit from sales of a new vaccine and not from the use of other treatments.
The real question is can he be trusted, and does he give impartial expert advice?
Clearly, No, and No.

That proposal may be within the proper purview of the government. See my reply below to debrief. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

Consider that state and local laws vary but just broadly, in most places you can carry a rifle without a permit, but not a handgun because concealable. In other places you can wear that handgun openly, but still need a permit to carry concealed. The underlying rationale is that you cannot be allowed to be a hidden danger to other people.

That is the same theory on drunk driving. Now, a strong libertarian might argue that you can drive drunk as a skunk as long as you do not injure anyone (or damage property). If you injure someone, that is the violation. Drunknesses or sobriety are not germane. However, most people, including libertarians and Objectivists, recognize that impared driving (DUI DWI; even texting, I suppose) is undeniably dangerous to others and therefore must not be allowed. (Now, truly, if you have enough land of your own, you can drive drunk or blindfolded as you see fit. The rules apply to your actions in public.)

So, perhaps it is within the purview of the goverrnment to proactively test people for communicable diseases. If you do not accept that, then you should explain why with reasons founded on objective law. Perhaps you can find a cogent quote from Ayn Rand.