Two Questions from the Atlas Shrugged Movies

Posted by $ servo75 3 months ago to Ask the Gulch
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After re-watching the three movies recently, I'm stuck with two questions that I can't figure out, and I'm wondering if any of you have insight into them...

1. In Part 1, Dagny and Lillian Reardan exchange jewelry, and when Hank comes after her saying she didn't have to do that, she replied, "Yes I did and we both know why." Okay Ms. Taggart, want to fill us in? :)

2. In Part 3, Dagny asks John Galt if every newcomer to the valley spent the night in that bedroom, and John kind of snapped back, "I never meant for you to occupy this room," and said so rather brusquely. I'm not sure what he's implying, was it that they'd come back there as a married couple so she wouldn't be in a guest room? I'm confused.

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  • Posted by Lucky 3 months ago
    Q1. Value
    Marx- the labor input
    Keynes- the value of all the inputs
    Market- what a buyer will pay

    Dagny means that the necklace has high value to her as a free and willing buyer. The value is presumably symbolic of the relationship with Rearden as well as the technical qualities of the material.

    Q2. Galt wants to make it quite clear that he did not plan for or envisage a visit by Dagny but rather that she is there as a result of her own decisions and actions.
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 4 weeks ago
      She is, but so is everyone else, right? Did he tell everyone else the same thing?
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      • Posted by $ gharkness 2 months, 2 weeks ago
        No, because the other inhabitants were INVITED! Dagny crashed there, which was the last thing in the world he expected. All the other arrivals had to be convinced to come; however, once convinced, they arrived as a result of their own choices.

        In Dagny’s case, it was an accident....yes, a deliberate act on her part, but never with the end result in mind. In order for an act to count, one must have a reasonable idea of the consequences of the act. She did not...which is why her arrival was unexpected and why his tone was somewhat scolding.
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      • Posted by Lucky 2 months, 4 weeks ago
        Ok, what it should be is-
        . .she is there as a result of her own decisions and actions only ..
        As you correctly suggest, Galt was the persuader for the arrival of all the others even tho' it was their decision, Dagny however was not persuaded or invited by Galt.
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        • Posted by $ 2 months, 3 weeks ago
          That makes sense, but the tone of voice he used was almost scolding in nature. At the end of the day, he wanted Dagny there, and that exchange didn't sound like it. The people he did invite also stayed in that room.
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