Should Democratic Senators Sanders, Booker, Warren and Klobuchar all recuse themselves from voting in the senate impeachment trial since they are running for president against Trump?

Posted by freedomforall 2 months, 1 week ago to Ask the Gulch
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi claimed Thursday following the impeachment vote the night before that she would not send over the articles of impeachment until she was sure there would be a “fair trial” — which, to her, means Democrats would get to run the trial, call the witnesses, and break as many rules in the upper chamber as they did in the lower chamber during the impeachment inquiry.

What’s more, Democrats are already demanding that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) recuse himself from any proceedings because they claim he’s ‘biased’.

Using that rationale, Democratic senators who either were running, or are continuing to campaign for their party’s 2020 presidential nomination so they can face Trump next November, to participate in the trial is even more "biased." They have a vested interest in Trump's conviction; they can not be impartial.

Sen. Kamala Harris of California has dropped out of the 2020 race but as a former candidate, does anyone believe she will be impartial?

How about Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Cory Booker of New Jersey, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota?

They’re all still vying for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. How in the world are they going to be impartial when they’re trying to take President Trump’s place in the White House next year?

There is no way they can be impartial, of course. But as usual, Democrats seek to hold themselves and Republicans to different standards.

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  • Posted by 2 months, 1 week ago
    If Trump is being accused of using his power against another candidate for president- an action that is not proved and not against any law, shouldn't the Democrat senators be accused of the same action if they use their power to vote for impeachment of Trump?
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    • Posted by $ AMeador1 2 months, 1 week ago
      Based on that standard - all the Dems that voted for this in the House should all be up for impeachment too - at least all of them that will be running for election in 2020.

      They did their polling to figure out what "the people" thought Trump should be impeached for - so they are obviously concerned with making their voting base happy in what they did. So it is politically motivated for personal gain that they did this - right?
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      • Posted by 2 months, 1 week ago
        I agree. As in the case of the politically biased Mueller "investigation" the Democrats are desperately trying everything that they can to overturn the 2016 election and prevent a fair election from taking place in 2020.
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        • Posted by $ AMeador1 2 months, 1 week ago
          Yeah, I replied in another thread about this impeachment. The standard they have set is insane. If taken to it's logical end - any politician that does anything in office that the voting base thinks is good is now justification to impeach them as doing good will surely help them be re-elected. The obstruction article is equal crap.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 2 months ago
    Democrats have a long history of voting even when they should recuse themselves - despite their outbursts accusing Republicans of bias. Classic examples include Supreme Court justices Elena Kagan and Ruth Bader Ginsburg on gay marriage. (Kagan was a solicitor for the Federal Government on that case and is herself a lesbian. RBG conducted a gay marriage despite it being illegal at the time.)

    They're a complete joke.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 2 months ago
    Wikipedia is not a reliable source primarily because anyone can add content and if no one contests it authenticity of accuracy it remains defacto von the site. I've used it 1000"s of times when writing to act as a springboard on subjects, looking up keywords and stated facts on verified 'trusted' sites. By itself it's the equivalent of word if mouth and just as reliable. My 2 bits.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 months ago
    Yes, why not?

    I see so many brilliant ideas come up in the Gulch regarding this topic it makes me wonder why the Republicans can't come up with this stuff themselves and then apply it. It seems the folks here are just plain smarter than the average politician.
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  • Posted by $ exceller 2 months, 1 week ago
    The Dems broke so many laws during the impeachment circus in the House that it would fill a volume to list them.

    The reason Piglosi is delaying the filing b/c apparently she wants to establish leverage in the Senate, or so she thinks.

    McConnell doubled down and asked "what leverage" Piglosi has in mind for something the Senate doesn't want?

    It is a manifestation of the mind (if they have one) of a lefty. Do they know what leverage means?

    She wants to extend the life of the circus that no sane person wants to see any more.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months ago
    What they should do, and what they are eager to do are very different. Being part of an attempt to impeach Trump gives them street cred with the looney left, which has wanted to impeach him since the day after the 2016 election.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 months ago
    Never thought if it....but absolutely!!! will never happen.
    Interesting that Nancy is sitting on the Articles.....she may do so until late in the election as an "October Surprise", If she does....I think it will redound to Trump as it would prove even more [If that is possible] that the whole process was fake and contrived.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 2 months ago
    The bias for people running for president seems almost opposite. It seems like they would be worse off if the process moved quickly and President Trump resigned or were removed from office. The other candidates running would lose the issue of opposing Trump’s antics and would throw out any strategies they have for running against him. If they have a backup plan for running against a traditional Republican, they have not discussed it pubicly.

    The point about political bias, not just for those running for president, makes sense to me. I am not clear on the point of an impeachment process run by politicians. President Trump openly talks about it as a test of his popularity. The Democrats don’t offer reassurances that they’ll stick to the facts.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 2 months ago
    They should if they had a shred of Morals and Ethics. They might fake it in order to fit in with America or continue their campaign of opposing all that is right and good.

    I was just writing for the new book on this matters and these post modern times. Here it is in essence: "When one subscribes not to a common moral code, one can do no moral wrong".
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 2 months ago
    They should vote their 'guilty' votes, then if one of them becomes the candidate have to explain how their vote was not for personal gain in order to remove a possible opposition candidate from the race!!!
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