American Hypocrisy

Posted by Herb7734 2 years ago to Government
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When the Founders put together the American Republic, they did it with very high moral standards.It was the first nation in history that put the rights of its citizens first, making the government the servants of the people.But over the 200 + years of the country's existence, the nobility of thought and the application of its principles became distorted to the poin where the very high morals became only excuses to justify immorality.

America is mostly hated overseas. Even so, America is pretty well understood. Actually foreigners understand America in many cases, better than Americans understand themselves.Americans think of themselves as a a benevolent, peace loving people. And this is proved out in the Constitution as well as other founding documents. But benevolent, peace loving peoples don't cross oceans to other continents , exterminate the natives, expel other foreign powers, conquer sovereign territory, win world wars, and within two centuries of their birth stand astride the planet.The benevolent peace lovers were the ones that this happened to.

It is the combination of the gentle self image and the brutal truth that made Americans so dangerous.Because if you aggressed against such a people, who could see themselves only innocent, the embodiment of all that is good in the world, they would react not just with angerbut with Old Testament-style moral wrath.Anyone depraved enough to attack such angelsforfeited claims to adjudication,proportionality, even basic mercy itself..
To quote Caligula, "Oderint dum metuant." "Let them hate us, so long as they fear us."


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  • Posted by $ Dobrien 2 years ago
    I would agree that covertly to the US citizens the diplomatic Corp operates around the globe with good intentions. Those good intentions paved a road to hell for the victims (citizens of countries) of our “nation building”. The black op actions were never executed with good intentions in mind. The deep state bloodline kakistocrats we have been controlled by for most of our lives is not loyal to any country. The Cabal is world wide. The US has been its main target because our constitutional republic is the cabals greatest threat. You said correctly .....j
    “its principles became distorted to the point where the very high morals became only excuses to justify immorality.”
    The monarchy’s of Europe are part of that Cabal.
    Prince Andrew when questioned about his visit to Epstein’s Manhattan Mansion after The convicted pedophiles release from prison. He agrees it was a bad idea to stay with Epstein but it was so convenient. (Heard that before whenthe evil hag explained her private email) The prince says “my judgement might be colored by my tendency to be too honorable”
    at 17:25 of this video https://youtu.be/l63ESqEh1RI
    Yes his commitment to do the right thing brought him to stay several days at Jeffery’s Mansion while he broke off their public relationship. He said this load of crapwith a straight face.
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    • Posted by 2 years ago
      How could he possibly doing something wrong? After all, wasn't he Prince Charming? The good intentions of the past were so powerful that they became the excuse for "the evil that men do lives after them, the good is often interred with their bones" after it has been used as the excuse for the evil actions.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 2 years ago
    Civilization was spreading to new territories, mankind was growing, evolving and inventing, it was the enlightenment and we sought a place to make things right for all mankind. Progress never halts for those that are content for complacent existence.
    That was the context of those times. There were bad actors on both sides but some of the Indians could see reason and wished to be part of our experiment and others, too routed in their pagan slavery to understand.

    But America, especially present day Americans should never be blamed for the bad actors and the paradigm to times past, nor should we be blamed for unknowingly being used by the parasitical humanoid class and pagan groups that attacked us from the beginning.

    History is to be learned from, not used as punishment for future generations.
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    • Posted by exceller 2 years ago
      "History is to be learned from, not used as punishment for future generations. "

      Truer words were never uttered, Carl.

      It has not been that way in the past 200 years. It has been a bottomless treasure chest for the left to find blame against their arch enemy, patriotic people not only in America but across the globe.

      Cutting up countries to one third of their former size and inventing a new code for crime is what the left has been doing and still active at.

      Al Sharpton will never let that chunk of history without usurping it to his advantage.
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  • Posted by exceller 2 years ago
    I want to make a few corrections to your argument, if I may. There are a lot of generalizations that could have been put forward by someone like Hussein.

    “But over the 200 + years of the country's existence, the nobility of thought and the application of its principles became distorted to the point where the very high morals became only excuses to justify immorality.”

    That is a very strong wording of what actually happened.

    “America is mostly hated overseas. Even so, America is pretty well understood. Actually foreigners understand America in many cases, better than Americans understand themselves.”
    No, she is not hated. I can bring many examples where it is simply not the case. If you want to mention Russia and her sentiments against the US, exacerbated by communist propaganda during the cold war, that no longer applies. Or you want to bring up Iran, or any of the communist-infiltrated countries where hating the US is a requirement you may be right.

    “Americans think of themselves as a benevolent, peace loving people. And this is proved out in the Constitution as well as other founding documents. But benevolent, peace loving peoples don't cross oceans to other continents, exterminate the natives, expel other foreign powers, conquer sovereign territory, win world wars, and within two centuries of their birth stand astride the planet. The benevolent peace lovers were the ones that this happened to.”

    Americans are a generous and just nation. Your listing of her “atrocities” here sounds like coming from the left which hates the country with all its might.

    Exterminate the natives? Yes, that is not something to be proud of but at the time in history when it happened, few alternatives presented themselves. As for winning wars that is simply not something to be ashamed of considering the US was attacked.

    The benevolent peace lovers turn out to be not so benevolent and peace loving if you scratch the surface.

    As I was reading your post I was wondering if you intended this piece as a parody?
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    • Posted by 2 years ago
      No, I was hoping for a defence of America by a Randoid, which you provided. Better still, you provided it without all the vainglory dressings and overly patriotic gobbledegook which often accompanies such defences. I love this country. Itis its basic good intentions that sets it apart, even when used as an excuse to do evil. I often think that our politicians, from presidents on down are so steeped in American rightiousness that they become delusional in justifying any action evil or good . The good and evil get blurred by crossing over to one another, giving an aura of the good to every action.Acting as the police of the world can only be possible if accompanied by a clear set of laws that govern the police's actions. I fail to see such laws, except for a fuzzy bunch of biblical references.
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      • Posted by 2 years ago
        I suppose that is what the United Nations is for. But, a more corrupt institution can hardly be found..
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        • Posted by exceller 2 years ago
          "I suppose that is what the United Nations is for. But, a more corrupt institution can hardly be found."

          You are correct on that. That is why the UN and Hussein understood each other so well.

          Thinking of it, the EU Commission comes in a close second.
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      • Posted by exceller 2 years ago
        Thank you Herb.

        I love this country as well.

        I always believed in the strength, wisdom, generosity and justice of the American people. That is what global leftist powers hate and have been trying to handcuff relentlessly with no success.

        " I often think that our politicians, from presidents on down are so steeped in American righteousness that they become delusional in justifying any action evil or good."

        I understood the reason for that when a close friend was elected to Congress.

        Politicians live in a closed environment, having access only to each other. Once there, their contact with the people who elected them becomes sporadic, gradually ceasing to nothing. As a result, their perspective changes, trending toward personal survival and self interest, focusing on "deals" that have nothing to do with the nation or her interest.

        "I fail to see such laws, except for a fuzzy bunch of biblical references."

        True. Trump is doing his best to change that, throwing the playbook away. So often I wonder how is he able to fight alone since the people around him is of not much help.
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    • Posted by $ Dobrien 2 years ago
      Giselle,
      The Americans citizens never intended to brutalize
      Citizens of other countries. Like most individuals around the globe we are caring people we are generous because of our economic freedoms.
      But.... our country has been taken over for many decades by a corrupt cabal of Satanic Luciferian globalists who push a NAZI collectivist agenda. To them it’s Damn the individual, we are cattle to these scum. Only valuable as slaves for them.
      We were sold a bill of goods when we have been in recent conflicts. What good did we do for the Vietnamese or the Iraqi people or the Libyan people how about Ukraine. What good did any of these death orgies do for you or me or any of our citizens.? Not one patriotic citizen in our country could justify the end result of these killing fields if they knew what the real story was.
      The US citizens have the best framework for a government in the known history of man. That system , a constitutional republic is what Trump is fighting for because as Ben Franklin warned we lost it.
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      • Posted by 2 years ago
        Everything you wrote is true and is the very basis of my discussion. But as to your first sentence, some wise man (or wiseguy) once pointed out where good intentions led.
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        • Posted by exceller 2 years ago
          "Good intentions" are buzz words by the Cabal to justify their evil plans.

          When these plans blow up in their face, they dilute the evil by saying it was with good intentions.

          Hussein never fired anyone no matter the colossal failure or damage they done, always using the same excuse. As long as it is done in the name of the party, it is justified.
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      • Posted by exceller 2 years ago
        I know that Dan.

        This criticism was not about those who took over the American system, but America in general.

        As you point out, that is what Trump is fighting.

        We are all aware of the plague that is infecting governments on the global level. The same force is active worldwide.

        But to bake them together with the still intact core of the 63 million who voted for Trump, and who are fully aware of the deadly impact this force can impact on the nation is a fatal mistake.
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        • Posted by $ Dobrien 2 years ago
          “We are all aware of the plague that is infecting governments on the global level. The same force is active worldwide.”
          Change the “we all” to some. Most liberal voters do not have a clue that their party does everything they are opposed to. If we can get 1/3 of them to see the info , many will “walk away”.
          This is the Great Awakening. This is info for those who only have news from the MSM.
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          • Posted by 2 years ago
            Logic presupposes awakening. No great thought was ever put forth while asleep, and dreams need interpretation. Exceller: I wish it was parody. That was my son's forte. We published a horror magazine which we titled Tipper GORE stories..Algore's wife who would censor anything she deemed inappropriate and was a true horror
            in real life.
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          • Posted by exceller 2 years ago
            We discussed these distortions in great detail in the past, Dan.

            There is nothing new in pointing out the impact of liberal voters.

            And those who have info only from the MSM will never be part of the Great Awakening. They have no brains to do it with.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 2 years ago
    I think the US the same way. I don't think it should be called a "nation" in the same way as traditional nationa states because US is founded on ideas of liberty.

    It's weird to me that "over there" was a pro-war song for WWI. The title sounds like a pro-war cry for an empire and an anti-war cry for a democratic republic. That was around the same time as the income tax was instated. Maybe enough time had passed by then that US was on its way to becoming just another nation state.
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