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Pneumonia As It Is Rarely Discussed

Posted by Herb7734 10 months, 4 weeks ago to Education
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Last February I came down with pneumonia. It is a disease that I thought of as being minor, sort of like a bad cold.I had no idea how wrong I was. The wrongness of my attitude was shown recently by the death of a number of people caused by pneumonia. Here I was, a doddering 84 year old (currently made it to 85)who though that being in the hospital for pneumonia was a great waste of time.However, I was curedand released in a few days, thus confirming that the disease was no big beal. That is, until I tried to resume my "normal" life. Before the big "P" I walked pretty good with a cane, and my sone had a good time providing me with some of the most outlandish canes which I gleefully used to get a rise out of people. But, after P, I found I needed a walker, since my legs had become much weaker.In addition, my brains were scrambled to the point that I thought I was coming down with dementia, a prelude to Alzheimer's. Also, I began having mild hallucinations.I had lived through the LSD craze without participating, giving the Woody Allen excuse, "My brain is my second favorite organ." I found that when attempting to write, I couldn't put two coherent sentences together and thus, I ceased writing. I was fortunate in that my wife refused to give up on me.She kept me out of a nursing home because she was determined that I'd get better. She was right, eventually I got better.The experience made me wonder just how many people who are in nursing homes that don't belong there since not many women can put up with the disabled and mixed up persons that are in their care.Food for thought?


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    Posted by freedomforall 10 months, 4 weeks ago
    My question is: Was it the disease or was it the treatment that caused all the long term symptoms you mentioned?
    Regardless, I am glad you are here with us again. Rejoice and post a lot!
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    Sucks getting old....I am only 61 but shit keeps dropping off and quitting working! Actually I am in pretty good condition....but one can never loose sight of the fact that none of us get out of this life alive! Young people....do things in moderation.....stay away from drugs...especially the recreational variety. I know quite a few people that really abused it when they were young and they are really falling apart now. Our bodies are actually designed to last only about 40 years....by then, in the primitive environment that we evolved to be in....we would have missed the migration south for the winter due to a stubbed toe and an infection [or any number of things like that] and died. 40 years gives you just enough time to reproduce successfully. Keep this in mind when you think about exercise. Do it in moderation....don't beat up your joints.....Too much of anything is bad for you. Anyone over 40 is past the design capacity of the human body and is only alive because we have an easy life in western society...[go the some shithole like Afghanistan and see how long they last there!] and we have some ability to fight infection with drugs and support us when we get sick....so you don't die from the aforementioned stubbed toe.

    Herb7734....good luck to you buddy!
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 10 months, 4 weeks ago
    About a decade ago, we lost one of our employee's, a 26 year old athletic woman to H1N1. She went camping, called in with the flu on Monday and was in a coma by the next week.

    It brought home to me just how helpless modern medicine is if the lungs fill with fluid and can't absorb oxygen. We can give you pure oxygen, we can intubate you, we can force air in and out of your lungs mechanically -- but if your lungs can't absorb air, we're out of options.

    With limited oxygenation, all the organs of the body start failing.

    My wife and I got the full set of anti-pneumonia vaccinations.
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    • Posted by 10 months, 4 weeks ago
      I also got all the vaccinations, but got the full squishy lungs anyhow.Still am being visited by a nurse who astutely listens to the the dried out lungs 3 times a week. I have fallen twice being anxious to rush my recovery. It's called learning the hard way. Had a bone density test last year. Apparently, I have very strong bones.I don't break, I just dent a bit.
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      • Posted by bsmith51 10 months, 3 weeks ago
        According to a physical therapist I know, contrary to what most people think, old people don't fall and then break bones, they break bones and then fall. Take care of "them bones."
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        • Posted by $ 25n56il4 10 months, 3 weeks ago
          I do believe you are correct. My BFF fell and fractured her leg in three places. She didn't fall that hard! Her blood sugar was 500 when the EMS got there. Her bones are very brittle. On the other hand, I have unusual bone density and I am 12 years older that her. I landed on my beautiful and didn't fracture anything but I did dislocate my hip!
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      • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 10 months, 4 weeks ago
        Good to know. Given that the two types are 13 and 23 that would imply a whole lot of organisms to be blocked -- and probably not complete. You do what you can.

        Good luck, and keep moving -- carefully.
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      • Posted by $ 25n56il4 10 months, 3 weeks ago
        Hey Herb, you are sleeping propped up aren't you? Can't lay flat with squishy lungs. Those bed backrest thingys that you almost sit up in are great!
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        • Posted by $ 25n56il4 10 months, 3 weeks ago
          I'm not a doctor giving advice but I did work in Army hospitals, Red Cross, was Director of Medical Records of a hospital and Exec. Dir. of a FQHC.. Ran a health clinic for 16 years.
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  • Posted by sheinpdx 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    Probably not relevant to Herb's situation, but important to know that seniors frequently experience delerium after anesthetics. Also, it is not infrequent for delerium to be mistaken for dementia. A psychiatrist I know treated a woman who had been diagnosed with dementia for 3 years. He took her off some of her meds and she had total mental clarity. I like a statement I recently heard: don't consider the warnings "side effects", think of them as "effects".
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    Herb - I'm sorry you've been struggling with this. Sounds terrible. As we get "more seasoned" our immune systems weaken. In my work in the medical industry it came to my attention that it's very likely there are cases out there diagnosed as pneumonia but are actually legionella. This happened to a good friend of mine, actually. To this end: Make sure your home's hot water system is well-maintained. This includes routine cleaning of the internal surfaces of the shower heads. I also don't like the use of aerators on faucets due to this.

    Take care.
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    • Posted by lrshultis 10 months, 3 weeks ago
      Legionella pneumonia is a rather rare one of over 30 pneumonias.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 10 months, 3 weeks ago
        Not as we get older.

        Need to clarify. I don't know what you're reading on this. But, I work in it. I get lots of calls on legionella outbreaks that you won't hear about. It's been educational, to say the least. When a rest home has an outbreak. My phone often rings...
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 months, 4 weeks ago
    During the late Nineties a corrections supervisor at the prison I worked at lost a daughter to pneumonia.
    Me dino went the the funeral and saw her in an open coffin. She was blonde, very pretty and in her twenties. She died in a hospital.
    That's when I realized that coming down with pneumonia is dangerous and nothing to be fooled with. Not ever! You're lucky to be alive, Herb!
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    I nearly lost my wife to pneumonia about 20 years ago, and she developed pulmonary hypertension as an aftereffect. That disorder is supposed to be progressive, so after diagnosis she was placed under the care of specialists in heart-lung transplants. Somehow, to the amazement of the doctors, she stabilized about ten years ago, and no longer has to see anyone but her heart specialist for blood pressure control and arrythmia (a side effect of the pulmonary hypertension).

    There's a lot the medical community doesn't know about human physiology. When I went for treatment of sciatic pain, I was placed on neurontin (gabapentin), which is supposed to block one of the pain calcium channels. Unfortunately, I happened to be one of the one in ten thousand whose calcium channels are different, and the medicine didn't block the pain, but screwed up my motor control to my lower extremities. I used to have no trouble walking long distances, but now I have a hard time walking over a quarter mile. With the probability of my reaction to the medicine being so low, there was no way the doctor could have foreseen this reaction, so I can't see any malpractice involved.
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    • Posted by $ 25n56il4 10 months, 3 weeks ago
      Neurontin or Gabbapentin (generic) is a dangerous drug. I took one and it didn't work. Called the doc's office and 'Bambi' got on the 'phone and assured me I could take another pill. I ended up on the floor and the EMS thought I had a stroke. At a recent visit to my back specialist he informed me he doesn't like Neurontin because you have to take too many to make it work!!!!!
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    I nearly died from pneumonia years ago, came on suddenly. They made it worse by giving me penicillin, bad. My 103 temp shot to 106! I broke out in a rash and then went into a coma, where I had the out of body thing. Very weak when it was cured, and I was quite young.
    So, when they offered this senior the first pneumonia shot, I took it, it is nto cultured in egg, so was safe for me. No issues. However, a year later, I was told to take the second in the series, so I said ok. Well, my arm got so sore I could not lean on it, and I was so exhausted for several day, all I could do was sleep! I was ntot warned that the second shot has a 55% adverse reaction rate! I alwasy look things up first, I just got lax on checking after the first went so well. Glad you are back among the functioning again. Could the lingering symptoms have been a reaction to meds they have you while you did have pneumonia. My husband got like you after he was off predisone for a shoulder issue, even though they did decrease the dose at the last.
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    • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 10 months, 3 weeks ago
      I always expect a reaction from an immunization. They work by triggering an immune reaction so that your immune system is prepared for the disease if it ever encounters it. You want a reaction -- you just want it to be mild.
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  • Posted by term2 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    Our bodies are VERY complicated and interdependent. Something like pneumonia messes up a lot of things that the doctors really dont understand.

    I had a seizure a few years ago for an unknown and non repeating reason. I noticed a number of effects from that which lingered for awhile.

    Medicine really doesnt understand how the human body works. When a computer goes nuts, we can just reload the operating system. With humans, we havent figured out how to do that.- yet.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 10 months, 4 weeks ago
    Wasn't it something else that caused the brain fog, Herb?

    PS...are you back to walking with outlandish canes?
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    • Posted by 10 months, 4 weeks ago
      RE: PS
      No. Using a walker. I had a Physical therapist who told me that recoveries such as mine were quite common, that is, if there was any recovery at all. Apparently she's had several patients die on her. She got me from not being able to stand on my own, but to to stand and walk. I am currently aiming towards walking with a cane. That is a few months in the future.
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  • Posted by dteselle 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    My father started having hallucinations and became too much for my stepmother to handle in addition to some flooding issues they were having in the house at the time. Hospice offered to "care" for him for a minimum of five days while she took care of household concerns. While in their care, they kept him so sedated that he could not eat or drink; nor did they provide any IV fluids. I did not realize at the time that what they were doing was shutting down his organs. They were successful and six days into his stay he died. Hospice is backdoor euthanasia.
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  • Posted by stevieg88 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    Pneumonia is not a joke.
    I contracted it three years ago and was in the hospital for three months.

    One would think that for as many years pneumonia has been plaguing mankind, medicine would have had a simple cure for it, or eliminatred it entirely. Sorry, not that wat,
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 10 months, 3 weeks ago
    I think my father (who died in 2007, aged 91) had pneumonia several times in his life. I believe it gave him some ear infections and may have actually broken his eardrum one time. Still, he remained very strong. But he eventually got Alzheimer's ; he was diagnosed with it , I think that was about a year before he died.
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