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  • Posted by Eyecu2 4 years, 5 months ago
    As a high school teacher I find what is going on far more insidious than what you suggest. It seems to me that the system is designed to dumb society down. Where as what Hitler did was to organize the children behind himself to support their war effort.
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    • Posted by GaryL 4 years, 5 months ago
      Sad to say but as a HS teacher you would find yourself in a bad place if you go against Woke! Your colleagues would revolt against you.
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      • Posted by Eyecu2 4 years, 5 months ago
        Actually I find that isn't what happens. Maybe it's because I live in Texas, but most of the time they mutter support and rush away as if afraid of being associated with me.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 4 years, 5 months ago
    The kids aren't entirely brainwashed. They're being taught to refuse to listen to opposing views, but they do listen to questions. Rather than argue against socialism, I ask them to define socialism. When they suddenly find they've never been given a coherent definition, you can see confusion and doubt. I then ask them to name one successful socialist country, and the answer is usually Sweden or China, and I point them to web sites that describe the very non-socialist Swedish economy, and explain that China is no longer socialist, having some of the wealthiest business people in the world. I do let them know that China today has abandoned socialism in favor of "national socialism," which is cover for fascism.

    Start with simple, innocent questions, rather than oppositional argument, and they can learn, but only if we make the effort to avoid confrontation. Encourage them to ask their teachers these kind of questions, because when the teachers can't answer, they will see the flaws in what they're being told.
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  • Posted by TheRogue1000 4 years, 5 months ago
    "Woke" is one of those terms created to define its opposite. They claim to "know it all" and wish to enforce their realities on others. I suspect that middle America is not fooled.
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  • Posted by Solver 4 years, 5 months ago
    The psychological methods that the Nazis used on their youth to socially construct their “reality” and program such intolerance to different ideas has eerie similarities to woke methods.
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    • Posted by $ 4 years, 5 months ago
      What exactly is woke?
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      • Posted by mccannon01 4 years, 5 months ago
        Good question! I see the term used in various places and every time I think I have a handle on the definition there are subtle changes that make me not so sure. It ranges from the 60's phrase "I'm hip to your sh-t" to "I'm fully immersed in the 'truth' of the propaganda fed to me and, therefore, any opposing arguments from you (or anybody) is obviously a lie." A woke person is pretty far from an Objectivist since rational thought isn't required - ever - and in fact is a detriment.

        Unless I got it wrong, LOL!
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      • Posted by Solver 4 years, 5 months ago
        A primary symptom of being woke is not been able to separate fantasy from reality, or just denying objective reality itself. They might say the opposite.
        Other symptoms include, mob mentality, a feeling of moral superiority and programmed to deny all different points of views. A very dangerous combination.
        A more appropriate term might be a cultural Marxist or even cultural neo-Marxist. The term Jordan Peterson uses is postmodern neo-Marxist.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 4 years, 5 months ago
    "Hitler youth" were easy to indoctrinate because they were already steeped in a culture of obedience, duty, respect for authority.

    "Woke", as I understand the term, is a person who is awake to the important values preached by the users of that term. It is a term of approval of those who agree. Mainly favored by the Left who also specialize in name-calling and labeling all who disagree with them in the slightest as fascists, supremacists, racists, and every other -ist. This is naked meme warfare, people. And capitalists are the No 1 villain, as any "woke" person will tell you.
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  • Posted by AMeador1 4 years, 5 months ago
    My wife is a teacher - Middle-High School - but currently in a Juvenile Detention Center teaching math and science. She has taught in 3 states. There are different levels of educational malpractice going on across the board! But it is SO wide spread - Federal/State/County Board's of Ed, administration, teachers, money flows, - just bad! She currently teaches mostly high school aged boys - most of them have difficulty reading, some can't, most of them are at a 3rd or 4th grade level on math - like having to learn to multiple and divide. Yet - MANY of them come into the facility with credit for Algebra and Geometry! ABSOLUTELY NOW WAY they are capable of that level of math - and then the facility wants her to push them on through. She refuses. She re-mediates them and gets them up to a level that mostly gets them able to pass a GED equivalent. But she has to fight the other teachers and the guidance counselor - who is also one of the County Board of Ed members. It's not about an education for them - it's about body counts and funding. The public schools have not been much different - she has high standards - and they were always trying to pull her down. Leonard Peikoff's book "Teaching Johnny to Think" gets to the heart of it in terms of teaching and fixing the system and what many of the current problems are from and Objectivist approach and epistemology. One of the core problems being that even the teachers that want to do well - just haven't been taught how to actually teach well - of course by the pathetic colleges. We are getting more and more serious about starting out own private school(s). The kids have been broken from K-College - which is breaking philosophy, politics, education, etc... Fixing the kids, including in Peikoff's opinion, is the long term only way to fix it. The schools are just so infiltrated - I don't see how to do it from within that system.
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  • Posted by rtpetrick 4 years, 5 months ago
    Political indoctrination of the young is not a new strategy.
    Education in the Third Reich served to indoctrinate students with the Nazi world view. Nazi scholars and educators glorified Nordic and other “Aryan” races, while denigrating Jews and other so-called inferior peoples. After 1933, the Nazi regime purged the public school system of teachers deemed to be Jews or to be “politically unreliable.” Most educators, however, remained in their posts and joined the National Socialist Teachers League. 97% of all public school teachers, some 300,000 persons, had joined the League by 1936. In fact, teachers joined the Nazi Party in greater numbers than any other profession.

    In 1933, the Hitler Jugend was a Nazi paramilitary youth organization that focused on boys 13 to 18 years of age. They were viewed as future Aryan supermen and were indoctrinated in racism….and their activities reinforced what they were “taught” in the classroom. By 1938, when Hitler went to war, those 13 to 18 year old boys were now 18 to 23 year old men, who by oath were pledged to Adolf Hitler (not Germany)…….and who would perform any task or action that Hitler would demand. Millions died as a result.

    I am sure that the lessons of Nazi youth indoctrination were not lost on the Marxist liberal Democrats who, today, hold power in this country. Wouldn’t Obama have loved to have had such a force of mind numb young human automatons today? Perhaps he does, but if not, believe me, he and his minions have been working on it. That is why student loans were usurped by the Obama Administration as part of Obamacare. That’s right! Only the Federal Government can give loans to students….and what that gives the Federal Government as a bonus to a dependent citizenry………. is the power to impact the curriculum at colleges and universities…..and this is what Common Core is all about……..indoctrination and not education.

    It will take decades to repair the damage that Obama and the Democrats have done to this country, both domestic and international. It will also take decades to effect remedy for the corruption of true American values perpetrated on our future generations by Obama and his progressives.…….
    ….and the repair will only happen if we have strong and intelligent leadership……
    Our future looks grim….but there is one shining light…..President Donald Trump. If President Trump can’t remedy the damages inflicted by Obama and the Left, as a Constitutional Republic, this country is toast.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 4 years, 5 months ago
    The NWO is not the New World Order it is the NAZI World Order. WWll did not end the way we were taught. Anti-fa has same flag as German Communists .https://http://images.app.goo.gl/gsPLrb62WVhs...
    The Occultist Nazi leaders were brought here and have thrived in the public sector.
    Sorass was a NAZI sympathizer and look at his influence. Kissinger, “ really” . He was brought here to be professor along with 250 other professors spread out to the major universities. He ends up our top foreign policy advisor and the Secretary of State in a decade.

    Deliberately constructed idiocracy. See Charlotte Iserbyt. https://youtu.be/DDyDtYy2I0M
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 4 years, 5 months ago
    Very much agree, nearly 30 years ago, friends were comparing it also to Mao's taking babies from parents before they could influence them. Both the John Birch Society and American Policy Center, began seeing this similarity in the 1980's, connected to under Clinon's invasion of school porgrams. One union leader said their goal was to take over the kids, as they knew better than parents, until it went wrong, and kids started threatening voilence against teachers! They have been brainwashed, psychoanalyzed, by mere teachers, as called for in the COPUSA training handbook - make srue psychologists are incompetent, but get as many involved with them as possible. They teacd them socialism good, capitalism bad. They tell them there is no right or wrong. They teach them pseudo science. The are taught collectivism, and individualism is considered a sickness. It worked on AOC, she see no individuals, only races, she knows only talking points, not logic.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 4 years, 5 months ago
    What is happening is that there is too much emphasis on memorization and testing. then if they go on to a college or university the communist indoctrination begins. I see more parallels the Orwells-1984 and Ayn Rands-Anthem.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 4 years, 5 months ago
    See "Ominous Parallels" by Peikoff which was an approved by Rand's Objectivist view of the way the German's philosophy brought about the horrors of Hitler's world. The parallels were to what were taking place in the USA. Might be a little too tough on religion for some of the Conservatives here.
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  • Posted by $ Starwagen 4 years, 5 months ago
    The Assault On The Mind in the schools started a long time ago. A basic tenet of those following the teachings of Marx and the examples by Stalin and Mao. Here we see the products of the 1960's teaching in our universities and their disciples teaching in the public schools at all levels. And it is in the books used in our schools as well.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 4 years, 5 months ago
    And the Soviet Union.
    And Red China.
    And North Korea.
    And I'm pretty sure about Cambodia of Pol Pot infamy for fame.
    And maybe Venezuela.
    And others me dino can't think off the top of me saurian head.
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