Ban public schools not guns.

Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 weeks ago to Politics
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I am not 100% sure but I think all high school shootings have been at Public Schools.
Based on that all Public schools should be outlawed. Others have a different opinion.
The British Labour Party’s vote to ban private schools — by taking away tax exemptions and charitable status and redistributing the assets of schools — is prompting a round of commentary in America.

The director of national research at EdChoice, Mike McShane, describes the proposal as “illiberal,” which for him is a negative. McShane, writing at Forbes.com, cites the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1925 opinion in Pierce v. Society of Sisters, which unanimously struck down an Oregon law requiring all students to attend public school: “The child is not the mere creature of the State; those who nurture him and direct his destiny have the right, coupled with the high duty, to recognize and prepare him for additional obligations.”

The idea of banning private schools has surfaced sporadically here in the United States, driven in part by Berkshire Hathaway billionaire Warren Buffett, who is a graduate of the Washington, D.C. public schools.

Michelle Rhee, who was chancellor of the District of Columbia public schools, wrote in 2010:

Warren Buffett framed the problem for me once in a way that clarified how basic our most stubborn obstacles are. He said it would be easy to solve today’s problems in urban education.

“Make private schools illegal,” he said, “and assign every child to a public school by random lottery.”

On April 29, 2011, the former New York City schools chancellor, Joel Klein, spoke at the Manhattan Institute’s annual Alexander Hamilton Award Dinner. Klein recounted the same Buffett anecdote: “Buffett said public education would change entirely if we eliminated private schools and all of us had to send our kids to public education.”

Buffett’s suggestion, or thought experiment, notwithstanding, here in the U.S., the idea of banning private schools has been so unpopular that people have hesitated to voice it publicly. Earlier this year, the website fivethirtyeight.com featured the concept in its “Political Confessional” column, “about the views that Americans are scared to share with their friends and neighbors.” The column interviewed “C., a 42-year-old biracial woman who lives in New York City and is a scientific researcher.” Protected by anonymity, she observed, “The kids who went to private school tended to be what would colloquially be termed frat boys. That was the sort of cultural identity that I put on those kinds of kids. They had boats and lake houses and third homes.”

One press outlet that has explored the issue is the Atlantic. In 2017, the magazine’s editor, Jeffrey Goldberg, interviewed New York Times journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones and asked her about it:

Goldberg: If you were the dictator of America, would you outlaw private schools? Would you force all the white kids, and all the upper-middle class and upper-class African-American kids, into the public-school system? You’d have a deep level of parental involvement, right? Are private schools immoral in this context?

Nikole Hannah-Jones answered in part: “The answer to your question is yes, you would have to. If you truly wanted to equalize and integrate schools, you would have to.”


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  • Posted by freedomforall 2 weeks, 6 days ago
    Like some other billionaires Buffet also wants higher income taxes on the wealthy, but no taxes on existing fortunes. He knows how to prevent any competition from young true producers.
    Buffet is a statist a$$#01e who provides government mandated insurance misery to millions. Put him in the same cell with the Clintons.

    I see they quote The Atlantic and the New Yellow Times - possibly the two most socialist biased (and anit-Trump) publications in the US. Hypocrite looters all.
    An Alexander Hamilton Award? Anyone getting the award should be forced to spend the next 20 years in Venezuela or to be shot in a duel with a Southern redneck.
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    • Posted by  $  2 weeks, 6 days ago
      You have got it. Buffet , the Deep state handler of the former Overstock com CEO.
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      • Posted by  $  25n56il4 2 weeks, 4 days ago
        We're working on a Charter School for our kids here. My friend is at a meeting with the Hillsdale people right now. They sent a rep down to visit us. Very interesting. Our problem is filling the Board with people who want to work.
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        • Posted by  $  25n56il4 2 weeks, 4 days ago
          We have our own ISD Police force and the city and sheriff's officers are frequent visitors to our campuses. We have the largest school district in our county. My dear husband set up the College Police Department and we train youngsters for law enforcement plus they monitor our campuses. Better than that it can't get. But we are all vigilant!! I leave my gates open during school hours, since my home is located between two of our senior schools and the kids know this is a safe house.
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    • Posted by  $  exceller 2 weeks, 6 days ago
      Buffet is an old coot who lost his senses by old age. He is in the same school as Soros and the other billionaires who have the means to promote their inane ideas, AFTER they made their billions.

      The Obama admin used him to have the face and advertise higher income taxes for the wealthy, which he obediently did, never paying his share of taxes himself.

      But then hypocrisy is one of the traits of the "elite" so we are not to expect anything different from Buffet.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Guns are not the issue, schools of education are. There, they learn not subjects to teach, but pop psch. to manipulate. I went to private and gov schools, and I found there were cliques within earch, even when we wore uniforms. The issue is not who is in the school, rather what brainwashing goes on within those walls. Private schools have been less susceptible, but not so anymore. If we rasie the kids up with real academic reading, teach some history, and even philosophy (which I first learned in Latin class), then kids will learn about ideas and not just mrege people raddomly. for the sake of no differences. There are and alway will be differences in economic standing, and we do not need more little rich kids like Carly Simon with her horribly poor me, i am rich and I could not stand the stress of college, so I quite before I started. We need to teach, working rigether as strong individuals. Buffett is a liberal, who fails to see kids need strength and impulse control, and lots of academics.
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  • Posted by  $  TheRogue1000 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Blarman, you're spot on. Way back then they taught children to be good citizens, to know and understand the law. In today's world, you'd be hard put to find a single public (or private) school which teaches the Constitution.
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  • Posted by  $  blarman 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    It used to be that all schools were "private" - meaning that the community got together to hire a teacher for their children. The teacher was immediately responsible and accountable to the people paying for his/her livelihood. It was quality instruction back then and the teachers' behaviors were set by parents - not self-appointed bureaucrats. Of course the teacher also had a right to send particularly disruptive children home - and given the direct expense to the parents, they weren't very happy about such incidents. I think our school systems have a lot to learn from those days.
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  • Posted by ArtIficiarius 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    I would go a direction that might be called anarchistic. Require that every child be given access to all the education he or she desires, paid for on a mastery/achievement basis. I leave exactly how to claim/report that achievement open. I would abolish what is called in the United States "public schools" and rethink the lot.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 2 weeks ago
    I wish there were private/charter schools when my son was going to school. The damn district forced us to medicate him because they claimed he had ADD which eventual over the years made him lose a significant amount of weight which made him more susceptible to colds and such. I also went once a week when my son was in high school because of study and behavioral issues. Now, there is a number of charter schools in the area I live in Az. So, I'm not a big fan of the current of public schools.
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  • Posted by chad 2 weeks, 2 days ago
    Public schools teach that collectivism and public ownership and control of property is theirs not the individuals. It is a propaganda machine that turns out those who would demand the enslavement of themselves and others.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    People have hesitated to voice the idea of banning private schools? GOOD!!! They should be ashamed to voice such a thought. On the other hand, I am not ashamed or hesitant to advocated abolishing public schools. I am for individual rights and free enterprise and am proud to say so!
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  • Posted by ttshee 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    This sounds to me as though we could solve all our problems by just lowering the bar. If anything like this would be considered, I think it should be the public schools that would have to close. Warren Buffett’s quote reminds me of The Oracle at Delphi, who misled many to make catastrophic mistakes because they misinterpreted her prophecies. ...”public education would change entirely if we eliminated private schools...” No argument there. I guess it just depends on what you want to hear.
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