Ayn Rand Bot, Established 2011, Removed from Facebook

Posted by  $  Solver 3 weeks, 4 days ago to News
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“Amy's Ayn Rand Bot page on Facebook was “unpublished” for six days. She doesn't have all the details, but tells Yaron what she know and discuss how to evaluate Facebook, given that experience.”

https://youtu.be/QLr-jATYiWU

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  • Posted by term2 3 weeks, 1 day ago
    Facebook is an addiction that attracts emotionally controlled people who need "constant contact" with large number of "people". Rational people should just abandon Facebook cold turkey.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 3 weeks, 1 day ago
    I wonder when a You tuber who is banned will sue YouTube civilly for interfering with their business. I hadn't really thought that people who post on you tube had any real standing since you post free of charge, but YouTube pays ad revenue for successful posters and is forever de-monetizing people for all sorts of contradictory reasons. They do have a right to control who is on their site....right up till the time they enter in to a public accommodation arrangement. Then they have to be even handed in what they do. This is the reason cake shops that wont do Gay weddings have their rights of free association taken from them....because they are in commerce and public accommodation. The problem here is that the judges you might plead before are mostly lib wack jobs!
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    • Posted by LibertyBelle 2 weeks, 4 days ago
      I do not agree with the notion that just because someone deals with the public that means his business or property is OWNED by the public. It certainly is not.
      We can still communicate on this website.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    If worse comes to worst, we don't really need Face-
    book. We can do without them and just tell them where to go.
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    • Posted by ewv 2 weeks, 4 days ago
      Worse doesn't have to further become worse to stop using facebook. It provides no organized structure for discussion and serves as a massive tracking scheme in which the users are the product.
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      • Posted by TheRealBill 2 weeks, 1 day ago
        From a business model standpoint every “social media” site that bases its revenue stream on adverts is one where the “user” is the product. YouTube channels that do the same are using the same model.

        Ones that sell actual products, or even solicit membership or donations, however, are operating where what they are doing is the product. This is, in my view, possibly the single most important aspect people need (or needed) to understand about companies like twitter and Facebook.

        Some who are taking hits to their own pocketbook are slowly, often very slowly, beginning to realize this. I’ve enjoyed seeing the expression in many a person’s face after I explain to them and they realize what that means. Without exception every one of them has stopped using Facebook and/or Twitter.

        This effect isn’t limited to a political party or ideology either. My wife’s social groups tend to be of the leftist bent, and it is happening even among them.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 weeks, 1 day ago
    Facebook is for liberals who want to snark at each other over trivial matters. Once people get tired of addiction to gossip, it will die away..
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    • Posted by LibertyBelle 2 weeks, 3 days ago
      Well, we could start printing pamphlets and maybe newsletters and have meetings somewhere and maybe meet face to face. In fact, I think that might be a lot more fun. There is a local group in the Richmond area. (Though we don't print pamphlets or a newsletter).
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  • Posted by  $  3 weeks, 4 days ago
    Why does it seem that nearly all the big tech social media companies are using a, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent, type of justice?
    Also, why do almost all the big tech social media companies not specify what the actual crime you are being accused of is, so you can address it directly in order to prove yourself innocent, or even to be able to learn from your mistake?
    A: Political ideology
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    • Posted by ewv 3 weeks, 3 days ago
      Amy Peikoff's page, which periodically provides quotes from Ayn Rand, has been operating for many years. It was recently removed for vague reasons, then restored after a six day wait following an appeal. The quotes from Ayn Rand are by permission of Leonard Peikoff, who owns the rights. No one knows exactly why it was removed or what triggered it in accordance with what guideline. It may have been some low level incompetent employee responding to a complaint and not knowing understanding what he was looking at, but it is back now.
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      • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 weeks, 3 days ago
        “ low level incompetent employee “ dream on.
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        • Posted by ewv 3 weeks, 3 days ago
          The word from the Vegas betting syndicate is that Maurice Strong did it from the UN's Agenda Google21. He is secret Director of Google's Board of Thought Control where he was installed by the Rockefellers to take out Amy Peikoff. The John Birch Society predicted this in detail twenty years before anyone else knew that the CIA was already plotting to create Google. There is no evidence of Rockefeller-Strong-Bilderberger non-coincidental Connections with Google only because the conspiracy has covered it up, proving it is true. We don't see signs of Strong's directions in Google now because he is so busy this year covering up the faked moon-landing, thereby exploiting the 50th anniversary celebrations as a tool of CIA thought control. Besides, he's worn out from directing the CIA plots controlling the Kavanaugh hearings and foisting the myth that Barack Obama was born in the US. Birthers, Birchers, Truthers, Poofers (Creationists), Mooners and more all come together to expose the apex of the plot in the Google conspiracy.
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          • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 weeks, 3 days ago
            Strong is dead my boy. Are you factoid intolerant.
            I am a truther. I happen to think the truth is what lacks in today’s culture.
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            • Posted by ewv 3 weeks, 2 days ago
              Of course Maury is dead. That's his cover. It's how he hides the conspiracy.

              But we are concerned with facts and causality, not "factoid" conspiracy mongering and the Evil Man theory of history. Ayn Rand was not a Bircher, and didn't confuse facts with "factoids" or objectivity with "truthers".
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              • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 weeks, 2 days ago
                You keep talking about “the Bircher” . You are silly. I have not discussed the John Birch Society.
                I have suggested people listen to Norman Dodd’s interview.
                Of course you have no idea who he is. Because you deny connections of people that are hellbent on destroying this constitutional Republic.
                Please tell me what a truther is and why you are opposed to the truth.
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                • Posted by ewv 2 weeks, 4 days ago
                  The John Birch Society made itself head of the conspiracy theory wing of the conservatives beginning in the late 1950s, "finding" communists with "connections" that "couldn't be coincidence" everywhere in place of objectivity and cause and effect, while attempting to defend capitalism with religion.

                  JBS became a laughing stock, which the left exploited to discredit anyone rejecting communism. JBS was well known when Ayn Rand was writing, and became and still is the symbol of the conspiracy mentality that Ayn Rand rejected.

                  The Truthers have the same mentality but promote the conspiracy theory that 911 was a secret government plot, much like the insistence that the moon landing was faked, and denouncing the success of Google and blaming the disruption of the Kavanaugh hearings as CIA plots.

                  It's the same emotionalist mentality. Conspiracy mongering is not truth. Emotionally clinging to it while claiming "connections" does not make it "The Truth".
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      • Posted by  $  3 weeks, 3 days ago
        That’s a good summary of what is mentioned in the topic video.
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        • Posted by ewv 3 weeks, 3 days ago
          It would be interesting if any additional facts are revealed. Very little is directly known from Google why it (and others) have removed certain sites and sometimes refused to reinstate them, only that Google employees are overwhelmingly leftist in their politics because of their education, and that the vast majority of non-leftist sites and pages, including criticism of Google, are unaffected. "Beware of ascribing to conspiracy what is easily explained by simple incompetence."
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          • Posted by  $  3 weeks, 3 days ago
            I think these two did come up with one the the best and most logical explanations about why this is happening in a growing number of institutions these days. They also have the “benefit” of having experienced it.
            https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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            • Posted by ewv 3 weeks, 3 days ago
              The gave plausible possibilities in contrast to the typical conservative conspiracy theories, but no one knows for sure what happened and Facebook's opaqueness is not helping its own cause. The silence leaves a vacuum filled with the likes of Project Veritas posing as journalism.
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      • Posted by LibertyBelle 2 weeks, 4 days ago
        Well, I'm glad it is back. But, as a matter of principle, I have to stand up for freedom of association.
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        • Posted by ewv 2 weeks, 4 days ago
          What do you mean by freedom of association in this context?
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          • Posted by LibertyBelle 2 weeks, 3 days ago
            I am talking about the freedom of the owners of a privately-owned company (not that of the government) to decide whom they will and will not deal with.
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            • Posted by ewv 2 weeks, 2 days ago
              If only facebook, google, and scores of leftist 'mainstream' newspaper comment forums understood that. They think they are enforcing standards of decency for everyone, not aware of their own ideology as something other than what is intrinsically The Good.

              Read their guidelines and much of it sounds reasonable, until you get to the loaded, open-ended catch phrases like "hate speech", which turn out to mean whatever they don't like because it's "offensive" to the left, i.e., ideas and principles they don't like.

              They have no concept of moral rights and regard choice in who you associate with as inherently 'racist' -- under an equivocation on being discriminating. They are now lobbying for government regulations on the practice and interpretation of the 'guidelines' as the form of Canadian/European-style censorship imposing their own subjective dictates.
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    • Posted by  $  25n56il4 3 weeks, 3 days ago
      They learned it from the Leftist Loonies!
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      • Posted by LibertyBelle 2 weeks ago
        The fact is, that some of it is in the "Civil Rights" Bill of 1964, which assumes that just because a business deals with the public it is owned by the public, and denies the right of the property owner to decide who may and may not come on that property. I despise racists and other bigots, but the way to handle that kind of discrimination is with boycotts and such ostracism, not government decree.--Of course the Civil Rights Bill did alleviate a lot of long-term abuses, largely on the part of Southern governments, and I have no desire to see those abuses return. But there needs to be a distinction between government action and private action.
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