Hello DeangalvinFL,
I'm not new around here, although I have been rather busy and absent quite a bit the last year or so. Still I like to check in from time to time and when I don't much have time to get involved I still lurk once in a while just to remind myself there is still a place where reason is valued. I hope you find your time here of value.
Respectfully,
OA

“If only I had been economic dictator, then everythng would’ve worked.”

I think the appeal of socialism is emotion, not rational. If we could only have the feeling tht we all together as one, everything would be ok. I suppose the issue is that each person is an individual, and how would it be possible to all people to be enough the same to actually foce a society to be a certain way. But the socialists are focused on the IDEA of how great it would be, and they wont let go of the hope. Unfortuntely, socialism cant work, because it would require a human to give up their human-ness and individuality.

Here in Vegas, its not hard to tell. First of all most all of the street beggars ARE entitled derelicts. Secondly, the missing teeth from meth use is another giveaway. Thirdly, they stake out street corners and are there every day, which means to me they just dont want to work, but think begging will get them more money.

I dont kick people when they are down, but its not my problem either. There are a lot of ways to get back up, and they should be figuring out how to do that sustainably, and not begging every day.

Most of them are on drugs, and that is definitely NOT my problem, nor one I wish to get in the middle of. If enough people died of drug use, perhaps it would discourage drug use among people who currently do not use drugs.

I would challenge you to find some beggars who stand for rational values and were licked to the curb. Not an easy task, at least in Laa Vegas

Interesting.
I have heard something similar from other people also. We each have our own family experiences.
Not all families work as ideal models.
Even more interesting is that many who crave the socialist mantra seem to be from not so good families. Kinda goes against my thoughts of family being extended out to society as a basis for why people find socialism appealing.

Well, maybe in "some" families. I think a lot of them arent on the same page at all, with one or the other parents just laying down the law and thats that. Might be good in the end if the "law" was based on reality, but what if it wasnt.

I like what my father said when I was in senior year of high school. "Have you decided where you are going to live once you graduate? Truth is, I never thought about where I was going to live, but he was telling me its time I did. Probably the best thing he ever said to me.

Well, you don't have to kick people while they are down. Perhaps they tried to stand up for rational values and were kicked to the curb.
Most probably are bums but I advise you to be careful, for your own sake, with prejudgments.

Why isn't this ever shown on the network news or other social media news?
An imminent collapse affecting millions of people of a country a short distance away that portrays all of the Bernie Sanders "paradise" promises.
Why?

I try to do that, but have found it very difficult. I would have to stop paying all taxes (which I have thought of actually by just going "galt" and trimming down my expenses and the need for income), and have to give up most purchases from large companies that go along with this drivel. I dont give to bums at all, and not to charities either (since they give to bums). Bums are everywhere in Las Vegas where I live, and they are constantly asking for money. I tell them that I have money, but I am not going to give it to them (one of these days I wonder if I will be shot or stabbed for saying that...)

It is incompatible with human nature for group based forced activity.
It is compatible with family human nature. That is what gives it its powerful appeal. "If only we acted more like a family - ya know - helping each other out."

Competition is the mother of invention in pretty much everying- including government

Thank you for the greetings. I am new around here.

Yes, the altruistic feelings towards intimate partners or family or close friends is completely unworkable when expanded out to the general public. Especially with forced participation.
Many churches or church based communities engage in wonderful charitable activities but they are voluntarily entered into.

YES!!!
That is the moral of the Atlas Shrugged story.
Soooooo, stop helping them.
Stop working for and trading with organizations that bang the drum of "We must help each other". The "must" being the most evil word in the sentence.

Hello term2,
Indeed. The Utopian dream that ignores millennia of experience with the unchanging reality of human nature and its incompatibility with such nonsense.
Regards,
OA

Greetings DeangalvinFL,

I have read and heard many times it is just that it was't implemented correctly or administered by the right people... Bilge.
Respectfully,
OA

I was trying to think of some smartass remark, but I realized that being healthy and wanting to work and unable to do so, and my family going hungry is no joking matter.I pity the fools who announced their own death sentence while still mouthing the praises of socialism.

A million percent1+ tHAT IS ONLY FOUR ZEROES,
INFLATION GO ING TO 10,000.
Think of Zimbabe that managed 32 zeros , that's a hunderd nonillions! Now we are talking high finance!

Socialism is a two part system. The people selling the idea know that it won't work for the benefit of those that will be plundered and it will provide a method for the leaders to plunder the state and everyone in it. The followers worship the idea that it will mean they don't have to work or concern themselves about the possibilities of reality because no matter what happens the state has promised to fix the problem, which it does by creating more opportunities for those who plunder to steal and violently control others which in turn creates more problems for the followers.
Interesting that the woman who was interviewed and asked how to fix it referred to the model (socialism) not working because someone tampered with the price of oil which wasn't their fault and that the solution is for a different model (of socialism) to be tried. The followers never stop believing that after millions starving or being killed by their own government that it is still a more humanitarian way to live and they just need a new model for the leaders to use and it will work. That the followers cannot see reality and adjust to how they live reminds me of the promises of religion and their followers. It doesn't matter how badly it works out for the followers they keep following and asking the leaders for a new plan!

Even Castro wrote in his Diary, that he could have NEVER did what he did without the help of the Media. They gave an award to one of the New York Times journalists he was firmly in power.

And people wonder why Trump calls the Fake News an Enemy of the state!

If I think about it, any dictatorship can work if the dictator respects the people and always gives them what they are willing to pay for- i.e. if he/she is like a perfect monopoly. The problem is that there is no competion to fix things if the dictator or monopoly is NOT what the people want. Capitalism is self correcting.

We haven't heard from ShrugInVenezuela in a while.

well, it worked for awhile under Hitler. He was smart and did things efficiently in the beginning but then got power hungry and who knows what later and it fell apart. Capitalism tends to be self correcting over time so long as government doesnt get used to subvert it, like happens here

Main stream media claims that it was the fault of those traitorous capitalists that fled the country!

Using that illogic, fascism can work also, if done right. All you have to do is hope, and change.

socialism needs a sugar daddy of some sort to pay the bills. It cant generate wealth on its own- it can only spend the wealth someone else provides.