Sounds like the Seattle and Portland elites we suffer with, full of brilliant ideas and how YOU can pay for it.

It is the same old story: those who think "communism" is freedom, never lived under it. They are all saloon communists, like the elite in Europe who have their gated houses with security all around but hell-bent for banning guns for everyone else.

That is so true..we do need luck...and the revolution.....Although I did just see an article that says that the damn Global Climate change went into reverse the last 2 years and it got COOLER! Who knows, maybe in a few years you will be cool, lush and green, and be able to sell property like hotcakes in the olden days....

When I lived in low desert Bullhead City, temps could and did reach 120. Yearly rainfall was maybe 7 inches.
Here in the high desert, we right now still need covers on the bed at night.
Our politicians are, sigh, politicians, but they aren't the total lunatics of, say, Oregon and California -- and the relatively sane people still outnumber the others, unlike California and Oregon.
"News" papers, such as the People's Democratic Republic in Phoenix and the Red Star in Tucson, are as lousy and dishonest as, say, the L.A. Times and they work wonders to mis-lead and mis-inform the voters who then get suckered to vote against their own interests almost as badly as in Oregon and California, but here we relatively sane ones do stand a chance.
I certainly wish you luck, wish you ... well, luck is not enough on the Left Coast.

High Desert, Low desert, Middle Desert, still has that word "desert" in it. And snakes, gila monsters, cactus...ugh. Sorry, I will lead the revolt on the Left Coast from a tree stand first....

You're being intolerant, racist, and bigoted.
This is HIGH desert. No 120 here.
And we have plenty of goats, horses, dogs, cats, just not very many people.
Our whole huge county has only 127,000 people.
Also we get about 17-19 inches of rain a year.

Thanks, not doing desert, and Intel has a Factory down there, at 120 in the summers, can't take that, bad enough here with Global Warming, er Climate CHange..er whatever they call it this week, we get 80 and 90's June to Sept. Just looking for something more remote where all I have to talk to is my goat, horses and dogs and cats, much better company than most people....

Nope, way to dry, my horses would wilt after years on the wet Oregon coast and my wife hates snakes, any snakes...we'll just have to fight for our freedom when the time comes.

www.freestatewest.com
Land, lots of land, under starry skies above.
And very small population.
Relatively low prices.
Come visit, at least.

It's time for you to move one state east, to Cochise County, Arizona -- Free State West.
www.freestatewest.com

The only ones who got rich in a communist system and then bail out of it...

I don't kniow but if you want stupid, follow Kommie Kate Brown (is she moonbeams sister?) and she slapped a tax on all health care providers, essentially a sales tax on their income. To fund free health care for illegals amongst other excuses....

Same in the northern county of Kalifornia, Oregon.

I will lay odds that there is, or will be soon, a caveat that any house sale, or renovation requires an installation as well. I wonder how much the solar lobby paid them for this boondoggle....

The gases emitted are a much bigger part of their so called "climate change" even when you give them the somewhat dubious scientific credit for their theories.

Of course, every argument is an emotion based one. It always calls out "unfair" or bigoted, or racist, or mean spirited. Rarely will you find one that is factual and logical, they dont get votes from the creatures they have created.

The Kalifornicators have already hit Colorado. So real estate has hit the big time here. The house I sold in 2008 for $158K is now going for $275K. New houses are $500K to well over a cool million. Rents for older apartments that used to go for 6-7 hundred are now over $1400 a month. If you have a family and need 3 bedrooms, you are looking at over 2 grand. Renting a house is usually over 3 grand. The pot laws have a lot to do with it but I am wondering who can afford it. I earn over $60K per year and cannot when you add in utilities and transportation, food and such. Then add in taxes, which keep going up and it is intolerable . Sure glad I bought land in Belize when it was cheap. I got 3 acres for about $10K an acre and now it is worth over $25K per. Buy a couple of cheap containers and weld them together, insulate the outside and enclose it for the heat, housing on the cheap. I still love this country but it is getting stupid and it all starts with the nanny government and politicians who think they need to do something with everybody else's money. Sorry for the rant but I just moved back to Colorado after 14 years and it has gotten Kali stupid.

Beautiful California is turning ugly.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly's to the bone." -- Red Skelton

Hmmmm, I'm reminded of the liberal plan to create more affordable health care by taxing medical devices. How'd that work out?

Not to worry. Yes, those like us will leave but, before long, coastal California will be almost exclusively owned by the Chinese.

Around 1980 I wrote a letter to the editor of the San Diego Union that all government at all levels should be solely funded from the lottery, the theory being that the lottery was a tax on the stupidity of ticket purchasers. Government would then appropriately be sized according to the stupidity of the people.

Fearing the obvious conflict of interest in promoting stupidity by funding public education , Californians found another way.

That's not by far the worst issue with building houses in California, in the hardest-hit (highest tax and spend) counties, developer fees can hit $70,000 per house before a shovel goes into the dirt.

Housing and cost of living is still reasonable in flyover country. Plenty of jobs available at reasonable wages. So many folks have been told that those places are full of ignorant, racist hicks. Maybe we shouldn't tell them the truth. Wouldn't want to get californicated.

found the solar company in California that would benefit the most and traded options for it...making money.....

And if they wake up and move to a place where they can afford a home, the lower demand will cut market values. The new solar restrictions will also lower demand and market values. It's probably not enough for non-millionaires though.
I do see your point, DrZ. The additional cost will make the construction of new housing less profitable, so less affordable housing will be built.
Buying housing in most of American big cities is a bad deal for buyers. It's only good for bankers, governments, lawyers, and RE agents, none of whom produce anything in that housing product, they just make it more costly for the buyers and steal from the sellers.