The special data device SpaceX’s Falcon Heavy sent to orbit is just the start

Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 3 months ago to Science
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Hmmm... a Tesla Roadster with a politician, er, dummy in the seat, with a miniature Tesla with politician in it, and an "Arch" (pronounced "Ark"). This concept has made itself used in Sci Fi books in the last few years, one series being The Frontiers Saga, with a "Data Ark" helping humanity after a 1000 year dark age get back into space where they were before.


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  • Posted by lrshultis 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Many of the trials for homeopahic treatments just see whether they are better than placebo treatments and not to compare the results between homeopathic medicine and evidence based modern medicine. Also the meta-studies do not address the differences between the experimental setups of the many trials. It is a type of data mining which may or may not give valid results.
    The diseases supposedly treated do not seem to cover more than a small number which modern medicine shows helpful to being cured diseases.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm with you on this Jan, if it is data and facts, that can be separately verified, then it is all grist for the knowledge mill, otherwise, dump. I will find an article on Yahoo (since it is my mail and has been for 20 years), and will try a Google search, then a Yahoo search, and if it comes up again, then give it some credit, unless it is so off the wall, it is obviously slanted. Google and most search engines have their own built in bias, designed into them.
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  • Posted by IndianaGary 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So, who says the project has to help "humanity", whatever that is? It's just another collective term for a bunch of individuals.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I find them an excellent tool, and not unduly biased when it comes to chemical structures or Sumerian research.

    Jan ;>)
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree, the articles are also likely biased. But they aren't claiming to be unbiased. They are just asking for fair treatment, and wikipedia should be doing so, and instead they are making up rubbish excuses why they shouldn't. Wikipedia is on my shit list until they become unbiased.
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  • Posted by andrewph 6 years, 3 months ago
    The orbital repository is some what superfluous. Adding it to each planetary orbit even more so. It’s a good ad for the crystal data storage device. I would be a bit nervous if I were going to mars considering he missed the that calculation and sent his Tesla into the asteroid belt. Not really better than the last few Russian mars missions
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  • Posted by $ jlc 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you for providing the links, but - while I do consider that Wikipedia has a liberal bias on many contemporary issues - I did not find the links particularly convincing on the topics they addressed.

    For example: the fact that some remedies, which work via known mechanisms (ie immunology) are endorsed by both science and homeopathy does not mean that homeopathy is an equally accurate model as science.

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Herb, I am sure that that was exactly his idea, you can guarantee yourself he has seen it, anyone who loves the Foundation Trilogy is a real Sci Fi fan. Note the position of the driver was almost identical.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 3 months ago
    What is there to say to a Tesla in outer space? Let's put the top up, close the widows and hope that the air doesn't leak out. Reminds me of the opening of the animated film "Heavy Metal." What's next? A refrigerator and stove?
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not a bad point, but also it would be hard for any one person or group to go get control of it. Ground can be captured a lot more easily.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That may be a good a summation as you can get, simply becaiuse more "open minded" people than "closed minded" will take the time to do anything with it.But the use is about as you describe.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wikipedia will generally advance the liberal agenda. However for simple factual things it's a great reference and a good jumping off point for checking actual sources.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Then that also adds an orbiting power system, an orbiting hardware data access system, and assumes that the ability to communicate on the ground (and to store and use downloaded data) has not been destroyed by the catastrophe. If such a facility had survived it's likely that ground based data libraries also survived making the one in orbit of no consequence.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Also, maybe they will have a comm system to allow access by request, eliminating the need for physical access.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with you, that should be the goal of all the world at this point, but the graft being dragged off the system, or the secret government, apparently does not want us off the rock. Even a self sustaining space habitat would be better than what we have now.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Because getting them back from the orbit is unlikely, prohibitively expensive compared to those off-grid based on earth, and if earth is lost there is no way to get there at all. I don't argue with the need to get off earth, but that requires getting a technology rich population off earth to be safe from an earth catastrophe, not just a library stored in a way and a place that is impossible to access after the catastrophe. It's a stupid plan.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wikipedia throws out anything that the AMA doesn't approve, for example, as if it was quackery. Instead they should be following the money and exposing the AMA's quackery.
    Wikipedia is biased in favor of the state sponsored propaganda.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As in one of the stories using such a Data Arch (Ark) they had this thing called the Bio-Digital plague (Humans had continued to create electronics that could be integrated into the body, and had some deep ones), where a virus introduced into the digital side effected a biological side and was killing people off, only a small set were found immune. The survivors still had tech, but not as much as they had, and used this ark to start working their way back up. So, say such an Ark is on Earth, in several places, why not also place them in safe orbits, and so if you lose it on Earth, you know where to go find it.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am not seeing that, Arch is funded on donations, as is Wikipedia. In fact, I kind of like Wiki, it at least makes you prove your points with references, even if the references are bogus. No data source is trustworthy today, but a lot of the "facts" today may be skewered by who paid for them a while back.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I can believe that, they had to do a test flight, so why not stick something on it unique? As it is, had it been a government program, they would need 10 test flights a year apart before anyone would say, "strap the Tesla on it", even then they would use bricks. You have to give the guy credit, he has stuck something up there that even in a 1000 years, someone comes along to ask what was on that planet with all the ruins on it?, and know. Might make a good sci fi story.
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