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Mass Migration Out of California

Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 11 months ago to Culture
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  • Posted by charlie7894 6 years, 11 months ago
    While I understand and endorse the concept of 'voting with your feet,' to all of you who have abandoned California for not necessarily much more libertarian pastures, I thank you. Since you have chosen to leave, those of us still willing to 'lead with quiet confidence' will be more likely to change opinion with less resistance. Since buying in both Palm Springs and Wonder Valley, I have seen more libertarian bumper stickers than in any state during the 8 cross-country treks. The way to change opinion is to infiltrate, with them thinking you agree with them (find one item where you do - like we all think the government wastes our money) and build on it. If questioned, more people that think they are liberal would test upper left libertarian than you would believe. I have tried it. (My disguise must be working; as a Detroiter that ran as a libertarian on the ballot to the RIGHT of Jack Kevorkian, they think I am a 'hippy' because I do not dye my greying blond hair. Apparently, my anti-drugs, personal responsibility, fiscally and personally conservative but socially tolerant roots don't show.) I will not abandon California to the liberals, there are more than a few Objectivists there to help save it from itself.
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  • Posted by $ Suzanne43 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Because a Liberal is a Liberal. They can't seem to help it. For one example...look at the Jewish people in New York City. The Conservatives continue to support Israel and the Democrats don't, but the Jewish people in NYC continue to vote for Democrats. They are insane hard-core leftists.
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  • Posted by llhawki 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Same in Texas and other states ... I don't understand if they move because they don't like the politics why bring them with you to your new home???
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  • Posted by Texaswildfire 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have to remember, Gov. Perry lured a bunch of companies here from Kalifornia, unfortunately they brought a bunch of those libtards along with them to Austin.
    Not sure, but I think the first border fence is going up around Austin. good idea thou.
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  • Posted by Texaswildfire 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I left Kalifornia again about 4 years ago to East Texas. Stay away from the big cities and there are no building departments or permits to build your home or shop. Real estate prices are very affordable depending on your taste. Saw a fixer-upper 3 br/2ba house with inground pool on 3/4 acre asking 45 K. It does not take much land to target practice there. Try not to go back to Kali for anything.
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  • Posted by Zeek 6 years, 11 months ago
    The problem is that people will move out of California, which state has been ruined by being a single-party state, and, when they arrive in their new home, they'll clamor for the same stupid government spending that put California in the toilet. I remember a bumper sticker I saw during an earlier migration from California; it said, "Don't Californicate Oregon." A cursory glance at the news about Portland would indicate that at least part of Oregon has been Californicated.
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  • Posted by ldb 6 years, 11 months ago
    I left CA in '96 and moved to a small town in Texas. Now we're seeing Californians moving to TX and the saying here is "Don't California my Texas". We're just hoping that it's only the conservative ones leaving the (formerly) Golden State and heading our way.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago
    In looking at real estate listings this morning I realized that the cost of real estate in Nevada just east of Tahoe is more expensive than my area of California - substantially. That's a new development. Says something...
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They're not just moving into Phoenix, I see more Cali plates here in Sedona-Verde Valley area than ever before. Also with a local radio show "Democratic Perspective" on every Tuesday from the local radio station KAZM spewing their Dimo ideals along with Dimo candidates guests are trying to change the State of Gun.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Incidentally I don't gamble at casinos. After gambling all day in small business I really don't need more risk taking !! The winners at gambling would say it's not to their detriment. Only the losers would agree. I gave up the stock market a long time ago too
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  • Posted by IndianaGary 6 years, 11 months ago
    I moved to CA in 1982 from IN to work for Amdahl. I moved from CA in 2002 to work for Microsoft. The left wing pressure got to be too much for me so I went on strike in 2012 and move to NV in 2013. When I was in CA, Gray Davis was governor which wasn't saying much. CA has gone downhill steadily since the end of WWII.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, casinos make great profits without taking any risk. Actually that is much more honest than the stock brokers who steal from their "customers" at every opportunity, but the gambling business is still a business model that produces profits at the detriment of its customers.
    Remember "Trading Places" where the Dukes explain the market to Eddie Murphy? That's a very entertaining movie. (Much more entertaining than going to Vegas to gamble.;^)
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually casinos are based on a business model that is very profitable. Gamblers are trading risks among themselves and the casino just takes a commission on the trade. Not much different than a stock broker where investors. Trade intrinsically worthless stock certificates in hopes of making a killing. Governments use their taxing powers to offer goodies obtained from the rich to voters in exchange for votes- in exchange for a cut of the action
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Big unearned money paid for by taking from others willing to take low probability irrational risk. Is that a desirable business to base a city's economic life upon? Sounds as appealing as federal socialism.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Gambling primarily involved winners and losers trading about 94% of the dollars gambled, with the casinos taking about 6%. It's about the only way average people can enjoy having a chance For big money in an egalitarian world
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Vegas has been saying that for decades. Not buying it. Ban the gambling and 90% of your market disappears, the fancy casino hotels close, the good entertainment stays in NY, SF, and LA. Half the business is because gambling pays for lower cost venues for business conventions attracted only for the lower cost and gambling.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There's the oldie description of California: "California is like granola, once you get past the fruits and nuts, all you have left are the flakes."
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