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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They are scared which is why they hate trump. Unfortunately lots of congressmen on both sides are in the establishment
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  • Posted by TheRealBill 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry, I meant on a personal economics level. By setting money aside I can only use for medical, I limit the money I can se aside for there types of emergencies. I see that as a disincentive - especially for the young and healthy. Generally, if we accept the notion of tax favoring for saving, a large "universal" account where you move retirement, medical, and education (to name but three) into one is far more incentivizing.

    Still, it would be better than what we have now (as someone who personally chooses the HSA every chance he has had).
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  • Posted by TheRealBill 7 years, 2 months ago
    Regarding item #2 in the article (unlimited HSA). I'd prefer to see "universal savings account" instead. Pigeonholing money for one and only one purpose is not only rather inelegant it is unwise from an economic perspective.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 7 years, 2 months ago
    What do you mean, why? Don't you know that it
    is a sacred obligation, and in the Constitution, that
    every health-care bill has to be at least 2,000
    pages long?! Only 4 pages?! Isn't that an insult to the American people?! Why then, maybe Congressmen could actually read the bill and understand what was in it before passing it! We can't have that, can we?
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    RE:
    "5. Require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure."

    You CAN shop around.

    My wife needed a hiatal hernia surgery. I called her favorite surgeon (she's worked with him, she's an RN), was told $1800. Called the local hospital, was told no way to determine the final cost but between $10,000 and $20,000. Called two surgical centers, both, total cost, barely $5000,
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  • Posted by tohar1 7 years, 2 months ago
    Four Pages vs. 2500 in the current RINOcare proposal. Let me guess which one them has more special interests in mind. I guess it'll be another Nancy Pelosi and her "Pass It To See What's In It" situation. Bloated bureaucracy at its finest!
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 2 months ago
    Much of Rand Paul's plan was in Trump's campaign platform, and Trump even went further in the direction of freedom on a couple of issues. If Trump would simply push Congress to enact the steps outlined in his platform, it would go a long way toward undoing the damage that Obamacare has caused.

    Relevant Trump platform sections below:

    "5. Require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure

    --and--

    "7. Remove barriers to entry into free markets for drug providers that offer safe, reliable and cheaper products. Congress will need the courage to step away from the special interests and do what is right for America. Though the pharmaceutical industry is in the private sector, drug companies provide a public service. Allowing consumers access to imported, safe and dependable drugs from overseas will bring more options to consumers."

    https://trumpcare.org/

    (The above statements are not 100% consistent with the free market philosophy, but the proposed policies would constitute a major move in that direction.)
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Perhaps it might be about time that Trump shows the same disregard for Congress that Obama had! If the D's continue to obstruct and obfuscate, then let Trump treat them to the same disrespect the Obama showed. Perhaps with the next election, we should start by going after all of the spineless skunks by primarying them all (both R's and D's)! It is time that the Establishments start running scared.....
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yep, Obamacare was designed to fail to aid the push to single-payer, socialized medical care. THe GOPoop is doing their part.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'd say you have a pretty good handle on the scam that we are being subjected to! It is really little more than a shell game for the "Rubes" (who are legion).

    PT Barnum said that there is one born every minute! I'd say his estimate was way too conservative! Our all but defunct educational system along with the rest of our Hegelian based society is turning out Rubes by the millions.........And unfortunately, they all vote!
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Otherwise, which version of Obama-Care lite will be decided upon? A real fix is no longer in the cards. It is a shell game and the "oligarchs" of the Beltway have it already figured out. Obama-Care stays, a real fix is dealt a deathblow by the Republican Establishment. There will be no meaningful negotiations! Only the Democrat/Pelosi monstrosity will survive, until that is the only answer remaining to the Obama-Care intentional failing mess is the "Single Payer" stupidity that the D's wanted in the first place. The Obam Poison Pill is working exactly as planned because they knew the R's did not have the heart for a real fight or to make real decisions! Only a handful get it and they won't (barring a miracle) get their day in the sun!
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Everyone gets CARE., MY wife, RN, working in an ER in Bakersfield THAT would handle up to 280!! intakes in a 12-hour shift, No one would be turned away.

    IT is HEALTH INSURANCE, not HEALTH CARE.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 7 years, 2 months ago
    Simple! The Establishment Republicans don't want to give anything to real Conservatives and/or Libertarians. Acknowledging that the Paul bill answers questions and makes hard decisions inescapable, it us anathema to the "Go along to get along" gang just wanting to sit back and enjoy their perks, become millionaires and go to really cool cocktail parties!

    These folks have absolutely no interest in making the hard decisions that must be made if we, as a Republic are to survive. It is also because they fear someone might not like the fact that they are actually making real decisions that will fix this mess we are careening towards! These clowns want to spend the rest of their lives living on the government taxpayers dime but they don't want to do what we are paying them to do. To the contrary, they will do anything to keep from rocking the boat and upsetting their Beltway Bandit "gravy train".

    So much for the pretense of representing the people! So much for the citizen politician going to DC to make a difference and then returning to private life. Once so many of them get down there, they soon see themselves as the privileged ruling class that means that they can now rule (forever!), just by playing the game......That is the reason that the clowns like Pelosi, Ryan, McConnell, Graham, McCain, Reid and the rest of the "professions" do not allow the Freedom Caucus any voice (or respect)! For what its worth!
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  • Posted by dbhalling 7 years, 2 months ago
    Good question. I wish it included FDA repeal or at least reform.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 7 years, 2 months ago
    My question is this - and it's really a simple one:

    WHY do they call it a "health care plan" when it's really a Health Insurance Company subsidy program? It has less to do with taking care of people and providing them health CARE (which is not the same as "health coverage', a convenient insurance industry mind training wordswap) than guaranteeing a big fat permanent and unearned payola to a few big companies.

    Damn... if THAT'S supposed to be a "conservative value", then by gum, I want to start a company like that, where I'm the biggest fat recipient in front of the Government Payola line getting that guaranteed dole from the government..

    Sure beats having doctors charge normal fees (not inflated payola-based ones) to make sure they all suckle off the fattened teat of the dotgov... to where we could PAY for our health care, not have Holy Mommy Insurance keep us cuddly and warm...

    So yeah... if you believe INSURANCE SUBSIDY is the same as Value Earned - then you really are your brother's keeper. And like it that way.

    /rant...
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I dont even think those are "radical". Those things you mention sound good to me.
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  • Posted by RobertFl 7 years, 2 months ago
    Why? Because it's 4 pages.
    1) Can't hide pork in that
    2) It's too simple to obfuscate non-sense rules.
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