Yep

I understand. But I think your assuming some key things. However, don't confuse the loudmouth Hollywood idiots with those of us who have legitimate concerns about America's direction. I never fault a person for putting their family before country.,,and there are a lot of us.

Just to let everyone know, I am not leaving the US because of Trump. I am going to Belize because my mom and stepdad moved there 3 years ago and I am going to be with them. I really don't care who is in office, well, except Hillary, whoever becomes the Commander-in-Chief. President Trump seems to love the military and they seem to love him. I cannot say the same about the former President, just look at how many Generals and Admirals he fired because they would not toe to his mantra on foreign relations. Not all military is seek and destroy, that is what we were good at but there is also the down time and getting to know people, local people in many places and different cultures. I still have many friends in many places around the world and will continue that in the future, including many on this forum. You can soon add that you know someone in Belize.

My thoughts, exactly.

I mean, ask why they want to leave. In the Trump era, they want to leave in protest to a President who's going to do something right.

Many such stories here in Cal.

So, in wanting to leave they are like James Taggart?

I need to read Atlas Shrugged again, apparently...

Better for the rest of us. I don't care to have their votes dilute mine. These are the Orren Boyles and James Taggarts of society. We're better off without them.

Better for them? I don't understand.

FATCA is more of a reaction to the exodus than a cause. Among other provisions, if the government decides that avoiding US taxes was among your reasons for giving up US residence or citizenship, they will hit you with a huge exit tax. So best to keep quiet about why until you're safe.

I guess enough people are now "shrugging" to hurt the bastards, even if it doesn't show.

i agree...

I agree. I just wanted Obamacare REPEALED, period. Let the free market decide on alternatives to it.

his comment about "replacing ObamaCare WITH something else" concerns me...he doesn't get it about govt being the problem...he is making the mistake every conservative does...

"I was too busy learning mathematics to worry much about politics at the time."
My aunt said almost the exact same thing. It's uncanny.

"When my brother returned from Vietnam, the plane was met by protesters screaming "baby killers" and pelting the soldiers with eggs."
My father says you could get a discounted or free ticket if you flew in uniform, but it was unpleasant to fly into Madison in uniform because of this type of taunting. I've heard it has been exaggerated and perhaps memories have been corrupted by movies like First Blood. My father insists the taunting was real. He said even people who were not against the war but not involved with the military had a negative stereotype of veterans.

I left grad school three years before the bombing but had visited a professor from Liverpool, father of my girlfriend, who worked there. There were a lot of protests going on when I left with a lot of antiwar skits by leftists at the Memorial Union. One of my brothers and his wife gave some counter demonstrations about how the protesters could be resulting in Americans being killed due to the protests.When my brother returned from Vietnam, the plane was met by protesters screaming "baby killers" and pelting the soldiers with eggs. I was once stopped by three guys to be accused of being responsible for the killing in Vietnam. Actually, I was too busy learning mathematics to worry much about politics at the time.
For those too young to remember the bombing, here is an obituary and history of what happened.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/us/...

we hired him to stand up to the establishment. Its not going to be easy for him, but I expect him to peresevere.

it is way past too late...it is no longer a question of "if", but "when" it all collapses...read "Creature from Jekyll Island" on the creation of the Fed over 100 years ago...Trump is a pleasant surprise so far...

I can tell you I am tired of government controls and taxes. I feared Hildebeast was going to make the rest of my years very unpleasant. I thought Trump would at least stall out some of the advances in socialism. He is standing up to the liberal establishment, but lets see how effective he can really be. It might be just too LATE for the USA>

... but rapidly increasing Gov's self-importance!

Please post more about Belize when you get there. We have only been there once for a very short (cruise ship) visit and only saw poverty or very wealthy. I've heard about it being such a wonderful place to retire to from people selling property there, but that makes me cautious - no one tells you that you should buy something in a slum, they always make it sound like paradise.

i have seen my last birthday with a 6 in front of it...my girlfriend and i will work and travel for as long as we can...we are not getting any younger...a lot of barter going on in the RV world...i have not paid taxes in over 15 years...

I have thought of leaving several times and had plans on where to go and what I would do, however because my children and grand children live here I remain to be close to them. Love visiting with them often and watching little ones grow up. Read some where that tyrannies use the devotion to family to keep more of their subjects under control. Might have to live like THX 1138.

Love Filipino food, especially pan sit and that red beef they make. Not such a fan of lecheplan, though...

Check out MINIMALISM on Netflix. Shows how we spend a lot of money and accumulate things that wont ever benefit our lives.

There is a solution to this. First of all, spend the money you have only on things which really benefit your life (and not the bottom lines of big companies like Walmart). That means you dont have to work as much, and therefore pay less tax. US Citizenship is not that great a thing. Once you get it, you are indeed a slave to our government even if you try to leave. I think there are a lot of "virtual expats" that just move to places like Costa Rica and have a great life. I do think it takes a lot of planning and wealth building to do that, however.