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Maybe Trump isn’t ‘lying’

Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 3 months ago to Government
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There is just something not right about this. They tried the "he didn't win the vote", they tried to get the electoral college thing, they tried the "no one go to inauguration", the media publishes nothing but negative articles that are slanted in such a way as to protray him as a buffon, loon or liar. Now, they are trying to tell the congress and cabinet to declare him "unfit". It seems no matter what, they are going to pursue this until a standard issue political hack that is predictable and defeatable is put in place. I would say so far he is not the most conventional president, nor has he ever seemed completely run of the mill stable, but he had the answers that pursuaded enough people he was talking their talk, and he has done as much as he can do with a slow motion republican congress, to do the things he wants to do done. Yet, I can't help seeing this actually coming to pass, as the establishment of both parties rallies to remove him.


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  • Posted by $ Seer 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True about his second pick.

    But the confirmation of Gorsuch will do more than restore the balance; he is only about 50 and so will be on the court for awhile. Unless he, like Scalia, has an "accident" or some type of misfortune befall him.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    At best, the confirmation of Trump's nominee will merely restore the balance the Court had before Scalia died.

    It's his second pick that may actually result in measurable progress.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think he is serious, but also plays it hard and fast, so starts in one place and ends in another. Unfortunately politicians only do that after careful consultation with their donors and patrons, and special interests, that all takes time, so they get left behind, and start screaming. I have a couple goats I want to rename "Liberal" and Libertard" to remind me..that do the same thing...
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 3 months ago
    We have to keep the focus on which bathroom transgender people can use, and off the real topics or the public is going to understand the real issues and that they've been manipulated for power for years.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think he's serious on tariffs but it will be tough to get a tariff increase through Congress, and that's one thing he can't do by executive order.
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  • Posted by hvance 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nickursis,
    You and I are on the same page in your analysis of Trump. He's a businessman which I think we have been needing for decades. Ne not a politician but a street fighter and is upsetting a lot of apple carts in DC. Only real problem I have with him is his position on tariffs and I think that is just hot air for negotiations.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    he seems very picky on his distractions, but he may be saving it for something important, like his SCOTUS nominee...
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Standard fare now. I have to skim through Yahoo to separate the 90% Trump manufactured crap, from the maybe 10% with some semblance of fact.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do not forget, both parties are the same, operate the same, but are beholding to different special interests and lobbyists. Trump is a rogue, who cares not for any party, he just used the Republicans for his own ends. Makes him pretty smart, IMHO. I also think he will force them to comply, even Dumbocraps, as he explains, you will want something from me someday...
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You would not be saying that the media gets "cleaned" of material that certain people may not want on it? One of the great things on the internet, it has cached copies in so many places....
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  • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you are referring to the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.
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  • Posted by NealS 7 years, 3 months ago
    Interesting. According to the article, and I have heard it more than once, "Arab Americans in New Jersey celebrated after 9/11" came from Trump. One time I actually saw a brief video on a news program showing exactly that", right after 9/11. I can't verify if it was in Jersey or not, but it was definitely for real. I saw it only once, then it vanished, never to be seen again. I find this especially interesting since I can still remember how I felt when I saw it, how it made me sick to my stomach that any people could feel this way about murdering other innocent people.

    I also saw a video at the time Michael Brown was shot, taken by another black man from behind a road barrier. In the audio he asked another black what had just gone down and the man said, "That dumb n(word) just punched that cop and tried to take his gun and got himself shot". After that one time it also disappeared, never again to be seen. I wouldn't exactly believe either of these stories unless I saw them for myself.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 7 years, 3 months ago
    Coincidentally, yesterday I read an article on Yahoo that was about the mayor of Newark calling Trump a liar and a propagandist. It was 12 paragraphs long calling Trump a liar and propagandist in nearly each paragraph but didn't cite a single instance where Trump lied or used propaganda. The article itself was pure I-Hate-Trump propaganda. Any non-thinking individual would finish the article believing Trump was a liar and propagandist, but would be clueless as to why. This is the very type of media Trump loves to bash - and deservedly so! (edited a typo)
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  • Posted by BeenThere 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "If they were to read his books, and to read Scott Adams's books,"

    Very few know there are books by and about him.
    Research and critical thinking are not in vogue.

    BT
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 7 years, 3 months ago
    Trump is following the mathematical model presented to Alice by the Mock Turtle:

    'Reeling and Writhing, of course, to begin with,' the Mock Turtle replied; 'and then the different branches of Arithmetic — Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision.'

    Distraction is the main tool. Thus far his enemies have not been able to keep up with what he's been doing. If they were to read his books, and to read Scott Adams's books, they would be better able to see the incoming gunfire. They still would not know which way to move to dodge it.
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  • Posted by hvance 7 years, 3 months ago
    If it's coming from the media there's a good chance that it is a lie. This is nothing but hot air for the next election. I wish that the republicans in congress would stiffen their backs and back trump. To not do this they do at their own peril in the next election.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I voted for Trump even though I didn't think he was the ideal candidate. In many ways I don't think he is going far enough. If this is the reaction I wonder what the press would say about President John Galt...
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Definitely a difficult situation. California is a beautiful state, and does have the coast advantage. Its a lost cause, however. I live in Nevada, and we could make a deal to expand the port of Tijuana. Also, California sells a LOT to the rest of the country, and would need the red state markets access to survive. Remember, California doesnt make anything anymore except for produce, and they are in competition with mexico for even those products.

    There would be a definite period of adjustment, but there IS a limit to what us "deplorables" will tolerate from the liberals.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    His protectionism is not good, but I see it as a ploy to get some time to try to get the American manufacturing system back into running order after it has shifted overseas, as well as shipped all it's money offshore. The protectionism is a mechanism to force them to act, not sit around waiting for surveys and "experts".
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. Good points, and very true. I think it is the speed he does it at that really messes them up. The Republicrats were saying a year or so for a replacement of ObamaCare, and he told them a week or two. If they do not come up and act on one, then they will have one laid on them. Rand Paul has already gotten that idea, and has one. The rest need time to talk to their patron, special interests, etc and get their instructions. He isn't waiting for them...
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Disgraceful, yes, but illustrative of an either A or B situation. I am leaning into B and hoping..
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