My government is better than your government.

Posted by Rocky012 7 years, 3 months ago to History
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What is known in the Gulch about our government.


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  • Posted by Kittyhawk 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you might want to rethink whether people ARE truly ready for self-governance. Chad said highway deaths did not go up when there was no speed limit. In fact, I've seen the statistics, and they went down. See https://www.motorists.org/press/monta... Wherever more freedom has been gained, the same results have been found: people act responsibly (for the most part) and thrive. The reality is that government's laws or "nanny rules" meant to keep us safe do not actually improve behavior, but make it worse.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly my point Chad. You have learned self governance, but many, particularly young people have not. I believe there would be a steep learning curve for many who have grown up with the gov. telling them what to do or not do. Thank you for participating in my topic. I believe there are many more level headed people out there besides you and me.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes Chad the Republic was gradually replaced by a democracy but it didn't die. If big money could have killed it they would have. The Republic still exists If the American people would come back to the Republic we would have the country back that was an inspiration to the world. If you want to join the Republic. http://www.republicoftheunitedstates....
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  • Posted by chad 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    People would not go wild while driving if the results were still the same, death and destruction of property while driving are strong motivators. There was not speed limit on the freeways in Nevada and Montana for many years. When I crossed into Nevada I sometimes sped up but continued to operate safely and so did all the others. It comes back to not being reckless and if you are being held accountable. The highway deaths in these states were no higher than any other. The idea that the state knows where bad behavior begins and needs to regulate it immediately gives the state the right to control individuals.
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  • Posted by chad 7 years, 3 months ago
    Whatever public appearance Donald makes of draining the swamp I would bet on the side of the result of all previous attempts. It will appear as though something is changing while some divisions are simply rolled in with others and the claim is made; 'see, I made it disappear!' Reduction of regulations will assure that new stricter ones are enforced even if fewer in number makes the slaves feel freer. The republic died with a whimper through slow evolution into a democratic communist government that will only give up when it collapses or has killed everyone it can tax.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago
    It has been my dream to find a way to close the Federal Reserve, but now I see we can't. Our current system would collapse. After three generations of living under gov. control I can't expect the American public to suddenly become self governing. If traffic regulations were only suggestions then many drivers would go wild. They would not know how to govern their own actions without a gov. regulation to follow. So now I see the process back to freedom as a slow educational process.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Immigration is a first step, but there are thousands of EO from recent presidents to reverse that give power to act (or not to act) to bureaucrats. Trump should have a team that is working specifcally on all those that expand the powers of federal agencies beyond original intent. LIberal presidents used EOs to expand beyond congressional intent and constitutional limits. EOs can be used to do the opposite and to force con-gress to take responsibility for swamp sprawl.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Getting rid of catch and release. Putting nations on notice to take their deported citizens back once convicted. Talking positively about USA and Mexico work ing together Getting out of TPP
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  • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It would be interesting to see the real first Constitution to seen if there are some words that don't translate well today. I would also like to compare the original Constitution with the one the US corporation wrote in 1871 to see if they only differ in the title.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think he can do things with exec orders, but I really do wonder about the things that require the acquiescence of the establishment.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My guess is that there will be a show of having closed down a part of the swamp, but behind the scenes it will be replaced, for example, the recent discussion of closing the BATF only to turn the same unconstitutional tasks over to the agency with a history of burning people to death and not being punished. I do not have any naive confidence in Trump or his legion from Goldman Sachs.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do you think the establishment will allow Trump to significantly drain the swamp? If so, what parts of the giant swamp do you think he might be successful in draining?
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And destroys the liquid lifetime savings of honest hard-working people to reward wall street/banking cartel scum who never did a day's honest work and have no respect whatsoever for genuine producers.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The people here have gotten accustomed to the federal reserve swamp. It prints "free" money
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am intrigued by the idea of each state being a country of its own and subject to its own laws. There could an association that states belong to that arranges for common defensive operations, and certain common rights that are specifically agreed on. External immigration and freedom of movement between states controls didntvwork for the EU. So I don't know right now to handle that. No federal reserve. No federal money creation.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think we'd have to go back and see what those words actually meant during those times...looking at older dictionary's etc. Connotations have changed a lot since.
    I was reading the beginning of Jefferson Lies and David was showing how words were spelt differently and used differently than we do today with side by side comparisons.
    In short, they may not have meant it the way we assume today.
    I get your point however.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I should have said that you are born with rights, but privileges are given to you. Who ever gives you privileges can take them away. Like when you go into court and find out you have no rights.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You see each state of the union is a country of it's own. So if you are a citizen of a state you are not a citizen of the US corporation..
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