By their own words: "Support Greater Choice and Personal Responsibility
The Fraser Institute is a registered non-profit organization. We depend entirely on donations from people who understand the importance of impartial research and who support greater choice, less government intervention, and more personal responsibility."
where's the link to where you specifically said you did not think it was fair that federal employees were part of Obamacare? as long as you're accusing me of stuff
Nice to know you make stuff up when you miss it. I'll remember that.
Please make sure both ends of the bungee cord are tied off before you try to make those kind of leaps of logic. Otherwise it is likely you will be crushed.
I can't ever decide if you are worth giving research to, Rob. Here is the average wait times 92 compared with 2010 in Canada: http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploadedF... :here are oncology drug approvals comparing can v US vs EU: http://www.fraserinstitute.org/research-... You can also find the info supporting the AARP graphs at Fraser Institute. What is crucial here and supports my statement- it is not how often Canadians cross to US for care, it is how CRITICAL the time and Talent issues are. 50K coming over for critical care or serious operations is different from only 50K coming over for statin drugs.
From the article: "The poll shows that 54 percent of respondents oppose Obamacare, which the president signed into law in 2010. Of those who oppose it, 16 percent say they disapprove of the law because it is not liberal enough, while 35 percent say the measure is too liberal."
That means that only 35% disapprove of the law. The rest either approve of it where it is, or want it to go FARTHER.
Seems to me you are in the minority by a wide margin when it comes to Universal Health Care.
Did you ever hear of "figures don't lie, but some liars sure can figure?"
Remember, much of the disapproval of the law is that it didn't go far enough.
That's called compromise. Obama hit somewhere near the middle.
Show me a chart like the AARP had for the number of folks you claim are coming to America because their system isn't satisfactory. Don't just claim it. That is getting very old.
No, legislators decided. It was unconstitutional. In polls, the majority of Americans do not want it. Even if he takes his skills "somewhere else" he still has to pay the penalty for not signing up for ObamaCare unless he renounces citizenship (only G20 country that requires citizens to comply with rules such as that and pay taxes).
Yes, US citizens are taking advantage of medical travel. But again, a not insignificant part of the cost is due to government regulation and intervention. Their decision is COST based. I disagree that only the very wealthy citizens of a socialized medicine country leave for treatment. It is a common practice in Canada, for example. In this case it is care OPTIONS and TIMELY delivery of medical services. apples and oranges
Mr. Boborobdos is an example of the chase your tail arguments facing our nation today. In times of capitalistic prosperity these types of entities will gladly feed from the trough as they poison the minds around them. In times of decline under their control they will spin these webs of incoherent rhetoric to attract the feeble mind to support them. The best tactic capitalist should employ is to relegate them to the crumbs of their philosophy of destruction and not give them an ear or voice of any kind. Talk straight to the dumbed down masses. Teach self-reliance and the dangers of modern slavery and what it looks like. Until the day returns when you must qualify to vote as was the case in this nations founding, freedom and liberty will be faced with tyrants manipulating ignorant but otherwise good people, into voting their destruction into power. Once over the precipice, rebuilding from the ashes is the only recourse.
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The Fraser Institute is a registered non-profit organization. We depend entirely on donations from people who understand the importance of impartial research and who support greater choice, less government intervention, and more personal responsibility."
Seems to me it's a bit biased.
Rob
Rob
BTW, the care is still there, it's just that some folks are more willing to PAY extra to jump the line. If you can afford it you are welcome.
Rob
Please make sure both ends of the bungee cord are tied off before you try to make those kind of leaps of logic. Otherwise it is likely you will be crushed.
Rob
http://www.gallup.com/poll/163253/americ...
or:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...
or:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploadedF...
:here are oncology drug approvals comparing can v US vs EU:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/research-...
You can also find the info supporting the AARP graphs at Fraser Institute. What is crucial here and supports my statement- it is not how often Canadians cross to US for care, it is how CRITICAL the time and Talent issues are. 50K coming over for critical care or serious operations is different from only 50K coming over for statin drugs.
The SCOTUS has no jurisdiction over 'stupid vs. non-stupid'.
They are only supposed to rule on the constitutionality of the law.
You are not only beating a dead horse, but the wrong horse to boot.
Rob
The health care should be the same for ALL Americans.
Rob
That means that only 35% disapprove of the law. The rest either approve of it where it is, or want it to go FARTHER.
Seems to me you are in the minority by a wide margin when it comes to Universal Health Care.
Did you ever hear of "figures don't lie, but some liars sure can figure?"
Remember, much of the disapproval of the law is that it didn't go far enough.
That's called compromise. Obama hit somewhere near the middle.
Rob
Rob
That fact remains today.
The midterm elections of 2010 prove that ObamaCare would have been a major 'fail' in a Democracy....
"Obamacare Poll: Most Americans Still Oppose Health Care Law"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/27...
The minority of Americans (Rob is their lobbyist) are forcing their wants on the majority of us.
BTW, George Washington grew hemp. Why can't we do that now?
Oh, George also owned slaves.
I'm glad things change, except that hemp thing.
Rob
I do not agree with your analysis of other nations level of success. Quality of care and expedience of delivery are sometimes priceless.
How can you predict success? What are your criteria?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...
http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-...
http://www.arbitraryvote.com/healthcare
http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/na...
http://www.workingnotes.ie/index.php/ite...
http://www.healthpaconline.net/rekindlin...
Why are so many doctors refusing to take new medicare patients?
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/...
There is no free lunch. If good universal government run healthcare is actually delivered it is at the price of other things like national defense, or other vital services and innovation.
O.A.
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