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I am voting for myself for president out of self-interest

Posted by $ jbrenner 7 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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Inspired by the discussion linked above regarding reasons why an Objectivist should vote for Trump for president, I have decided to completely reject those premises.

I was told I wasted my vote when I voted libertarian for president in 2000 in the State of Florida where Bush beat Gore by 555 votes. Several friends said I should have voted for Tweedledee so that we wouldn't get Tweedledum for president. What we got was a month-long lawsuit brought by Tweedledum to try to "discern" my vote that cost the stock market 15%.

While I agree with Gary Johnson on the big picture, he has done just enough to make me not want to vote for him.

I have decided to write in myself in my vote for president. I am the only person who can govern me. As for the rest of you, given the opinions expressed in this forum, I should hope that each of you would vote for yourself, too. I have no interest in governing any of you either.


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  • Posted by chad 7 years, 6 months ago
    I have been voting for myself for years, I am always satisfied with the results.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The US has already slid past the point of no return on socialism. As I said to others, there are more than two doors. No one is forcing us to stay here. ... yet.
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  • Posted by TruBluBruin 7 years, 7 months ago
    Or as I've been saying for years "vote for me, i can't possibly be worse."
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  • Posted by Bethesda-gal 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I feel exactly the same multiplied by a zillion ! Is that an amount yet ? Cuz if it is, don't let Obama know or he run up our tab to that before he's out !!
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I know a John Smith. He introduced himself as "I'm John Smith, believe it or not, my actual name." because apparently he's used to it being taken as a joke.
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  • Posted by Burtb0 7 years, 7 months ago
    This is a foolish position.
    If you are not voting, you are moving Hilairy one step closer to the Presidency.
    The only way to stop the slide into socialism is Vote Trump.


    Unless you want to bring about the destruction of the USA (which may be your game plan- the old tactic of burning the crops to force everyone to fight rather that hunker down behind the castle wall)

    Is a President Trump a guarantee? Not at all. But a Hillary presidency is guaranteed to end in socialism.

    At this point, You have two doors.
    One has a guaranteed Tiger behind it.
    One might have a Tiger or might have a princess.
    Why would anyone open the door to a guaranteed hungry Tiger?
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  • Posted by Steven-Wells 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am certain that my 1 vote for president will make no difference in the electoral college result for my state (CA). I had originally intended to vote for Gary Johnson to increase the Libertarian vote total, which has separate relevance from the immediate national effect.

    Were I convinced that the actual election would come down to me based on a pragmatic choice, I'd vote for the awful Trump, who would not have the personal motivation to do the damage that the despicable Clinton would certainly cause.
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  • Posted by Bethesda-gal 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    YEP !!! Exactly ! When anyone asks, with their eyes bulging and their hair on fire: WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR TRUMP ?!?! All you have to say is: Because he's not the Establishment, and Hillary is ! And then you can watch them explode because they fancy themselves as anti-establishment ! Haha. :)
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump is hated by the establishment who benefit from the cronyism embodied by Hillary. I have listened to a lot of his speeches and noted that what he says is NOT what is reported. For example, he didnt say to toss out all muslims. What he said is that UNTIL we can find a way to separate out the terrorists from the non-terrorist muslims, we should NOT take any people in from muslim areas infected with terrorists. I mean, whats wrong with that?? Its not a blanket ban based on religion, but until we can tell if they are terrorists, why let them come to the USA.
    Check out immigration or even visitation rules for Canada and Australia. They dont seem to have terrorism rampant up there, and for good reason. Its very hard to even come in as a visitor. A simple DUI or pretty much any other conviction will bar you from getting a visa. You cant come in without a return airline ticket, and if they do a background search when you arrive, you are instantly deported.

    And Obama/Hillary wants to bring in thousands of Syrian refugees without even checking them out? I dont want one living next to me. If Hillary wants one, let her give a spare bedroom in HER house to one or more.
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  • Posted by Bethesda-gal 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He has my vote too !
    And I think most of Trump's hatred is derived from comments that, yes, he did say, but that the media has chosen to do their free advertising for Hillary and promote edited versions of his statements over and over.
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 7 years, 7 months ago
    I flatly disagree with the standard "lesser of two evils" argument. In an era in which two lousy candidates yet retained a rudimentary respect for America's core Founding ideas and institutions (such as: the Constitution and the fundamental human rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights,) that pragmatic view would carry more weight. But the "choices" shoved before us in 2016 are no such candidates.

    If you haven't already, I urge you one and all to read Robert Bidinotto's April 28 blog post "A Vote for # Neither," here:
    http://bidinotto.blogspot.com/2016/04...

    I'd thought of quoting its closing paragraphs here, but the whole post is quotable.

    In a Hobson's Choice situation, any protest vote is going to be a protest vote only, not a viable stab at picking a winner - so it's a grasp at the best possible value to be had in such a situation: retaining a clear conscience. I can't speak for anyone else, but a vote for either of the two Democrats or for the Libertarian would not allow that. So I will be bringing a pen.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You beat me. When I lived in California in 1982, I received 3.6% of the vote for State Assembly and my wife received 4.3% of the vote in a congressional race. Both of us ran as LP candidates.
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  • Posted by Ed75 7 years, 7 months ago
    I would have no problem voting for you jb just as long as you promise to nominate originalists to the supreme court.
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  • Posted by Steven-Wells 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I live in CaliDemocratfornia, so my presidential vote will not influence the outcome for my state.
    It does influence the recorded demographics that may aid future candidates of better morals/skills to get on the ballot. With an otherwise worthless vote, if it’s infinitesimally better for future candidacies, I’ll vote for the somewhat flawed Gary (having an Aleppo moment) Johnson rather than the orange buffoon, Donald (the psycho) Trump or the first woman antichrist, Hillary (the gangster) Clinton [or the ludicrous vegetable Jill (the potted palm) Stein].

    Still, I might consider writing myself in for the President slot for the fun of actually voting for a moral, rational, freedom-loving candidate. In a variation of such a gesture, in 2008 I voted for myself for the US House of Representatives. However, that was not a write-in vote—I was on the official ballot. To the nearest integer percentage, I pulled 5% of the vote away from the unbeatable Demoncratic candidate. I later received an encouraging email from a fellow who said he always voted Democratic, but I was his first Libertarian vote.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I had forgotten that. SO TRUE. It really is getting to me that we all just accept what the statists are doing.

    I realize they have ultimate power over us, just as the nazis had power over the jews, and we cant do much more than passively resist and shrug to a degree at least.

    I really get a kick out of the government wanting to 'broaden the tax base". There isnt much they dont tax one way or another these days.

    When you have a party at your house, they want to tax the food that you serve, because its not just for your consumption. Amazing.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fantastic. I want someone at the top who says, go take care of yourselves. :) Ultimately, once mature, who else can one count on? :)
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can write my name in, as long as you don't want me to govern anyone but myself. ;)
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In the immortal words of George Harrison of The Beatles:

    Let me tell you how it will be
    There's one for you, nineteen for me
    Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

    Should five per cent appear too small
    Be thankful I don't take it all
    Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

    If you drive a car, I'll tax the street
    If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
    If you get too cold I'll tax the heat
    If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet
    Taxman!
    Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

    Don't ask me what I want it for (Aahh Mr. Wilson)
    If you don't want to pay some more (Aahh Mr. Heath)
    Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

    Now my advice for those who die
    Declare the pennies on your eyes
    Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

    And you're working for no one but me
    Taxman!
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