Trump: The Most "Unprincipled" Presidential Candidate Ever

Posted by D_E_Liberty 8 years, 2 months ago to Politics
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Written for the Gulch: One Objectivists view of why Donald Trump has no philosophy in the Randist sense, and thus, has no consistent political principles.


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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Is wanting to end wars a more terrible foreign policy than endless aggression against other countries, to the tune of trillions of dollars of our people's substance wasted and the creation of ever more enemies? "Libertarian baggage"? What's that?
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So much agonizing over two awful choices. Why is no one mentioning the best third choice, Gary Johnson, an honest and decent man, successful businessman, term limits supporter, small-government and individual freedom advocate. If you want to abstain from voting because of the two rotters offered, vote for Gary Johnson, Libertarian. In fact, vote for him in any case.
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  • Posted by chad 8 years, 2 months ago
    Two bad choices do not leave those with morals with the option of choosing the lesser of two evils. If candidate A will bind the people with a thousand ropes and candidate B only bind them with nine hundred and fifty there is no choice. To choose B with the hope that next 'year' or next 'election' we will make a difference then and choose someone who would untie the ropes is to place hope where there is none. The only purpose of elections is to one keep the populace entertained believing they are doing their 'part' and making a difference and for the socialists to observe how far they can go. Given the two candidates currently running they can do whatever they want and the sheep will accept whatever torment they are given.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If I was the cause, I wear the badge proudly. But he did not win because enough others saw through his BS. He ended up, as Ann Coulter said (and I don't usually like her) that Cruz lost and he turned out to be the bitch who just could not get over it. Texas will not be well served if they re-elect this liar in two years when he runs again.

    An all this does not even take into account he is religious nut case.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He didn't win because of people like you who did not see his ideology - much better than everyone else. Yes Rand had some positives, but a terrible foreign policy. Trump can't win because he is too irrational, pragmatic, egotistical, dangerous.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can’t tell if Cruz was good on the issues because he was such a liar. After he dropped out I discovered the book “Liar, Liar, Cruz on Fire” which details a lot of lies he made — including the whole story he repeated ad nauseam of his father.

    I was happy to see Cruz go, that is for sure. Given Cruz lies and cheats (but not as well as Hillary), he is hardly a good choice. Rand was my first choice. When he dropped out, that left Carson who could not win, and Trump who would shake things up. I have not voted anything but LP since there was an LP, but I will vote Trump to shake up the establishment. If he were not such a threat, the media and the BGP establishment would not be so violently against him to the point of instigating violence, publishing totally made up stories, and twisting his words. The behavior of the establishment alone should be enough to point voters toward Trump. Anything else be worse than what we have because Hillary will increase all the bad things until we have Venezuela in America.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So you're just one of those who eliminated those who could beat Hillary. I guess you aren't too negative on her.

    BTW, Cruz was far more correct on the issues than any other candidate. Given the candidates we have now, any lying on his part was not significant.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To me Cruz was a typical lying, cheating, politician. I liked him at first, but Iowa showed his true colors and he confirmed his lying and cheating throughout, up to and including the GOP convention. This Christian apologist needs to be impeached or not re-elected. He, and his family, are 100% establishment in the sense they will do anything for power and money. Just check out his wife and brother --- actually add his parents and their relationship to the parents of Hinkley. I could go on, but I prefer to watch the Olympics. Cruz is crap. Not that I am opinionated, right?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So your answer is:? Somehow stating the obvious over and over is not changing my mind but causing me to dig in.

    There is no which party. There is one party the Government Party Deomcrat Socialists to the left and Republicans in Name Only to the near left AKA right wing of the left. We are in a one party system of government now. 'Think of that when you vote locally. Nits breed Gnats.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 2 months ago
    Why should he/ He is not an objectivist why judge him as if he was. Although his business decisions based on the laws in play at the time seemed very un-subjective.

    It's obvious he lived by the principles of the country and it's government and became despite all that the ulitmate outsider. I'm sure you establishment ass kissers rallied to save your little right wing corner of the left but that's all I see you doing just more thinly disguised left wing BS. At this point there are two choices. Comrade Hillary and socialist autocracy funded by the turf protecting establishment

    or

    See what the Ultimate Outsider can do. No way it can be anthing worse that a continuation of the crap shoeled on our plates day in day out.

    Take your left wing government and shove it I aint loyal to you anymore.

    Constitutional Republic if you don't like it get out of my country. take Wilson Roosevelt Johnson, Clinton Obama and Clinton with you.
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  • Posted by JuliBMe 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, this has been my thought process, too. He is a New Yorker, so he was immersed in business there and, by default, its politics. However, his thought processes and the way he speaks seems more AMERICAN in general, rather than political. You know what I mean? He says things like "I love you" a lot to his crowds at the end of his speeches. What politician does that? I think there's a good chance he actually cares about ALL people no matter their political affiliation. And, that is part of the reason this country is going off the rails. In today's world, a person's politics is going to determine how you deal with them. Really? Is that how it's supposed to be? I don't think so. It may explain why he actually does have cross-over appeal. I'm hoping for a landslide this November, but with the "R" party doing its best to sabotage, who knows?
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Other than Rand Paul and Carson, I can't put my finger on even one of the 17 candidates who was not a deeply entrenched Establishment politician.
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  • Posted by EdGoldstein 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The more I think about it , the more I like the idea that Trump does not have any political principals. I think he is an honest man who knows how corrupt things are from having to pay off the thugs. He has enough ego to think he can fix things. I want to give him the chance.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When the statists control the Supreme Court you will think it is a big issue.

    Just as SCOTUS came up with Obamacare is a tax and not a mandated fee, the court can decide anything is what they say it is. “Micro-aggression” is more than only the start of the end of free speech, and the 3rd, 4th, and 6th amendments have so many holes in them already from existing court decisions it will not take much to eliminate any protection at all from them or the rest of the constitution. The Court is a major issue.

    The entire court system is now so corrupt it is difficult to find a judge who actually knows the law rather than the judge knows the people in power who made and confirmed the appointment. Look at the AG, the FCC that wants to take over the internet, the FBI who is obviously giving passes to the political elite, and add hundreds of other examples, THEN make it even worse when Hillary gets in. Record numbers of Americans became ex-pats not only by moving out, but by giving up their citizenship. Today, under the law, if you give up your citizenship due to taxes, then the government claims the right to tax you for an additional 10 years. The next will be a prohibition to leave and a requirement to repatriate any money you have outside the country. This is not merely Hillary v Trump, this is Hillary and the establishment against the population. And, here, as in Argentina, Italy, and ever so many countries, the people initially vote in the dictator. The history is there, all within the last 100 years.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes it is the issue: Trump is no more worth voting for than Hillary. Of course, it depends on which issues you think are most important. I don't happen to see the supreme court as the biggest issue.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Whether the attacks are justified is not the issue. Either Hillary or Trump will win. So, fight against Trump, bitch and moan he is not conservative enough, or enough of anything you want, and Hillary wins. Then picture the supreme court, the lower courts, and all the government agencies peopled by Hillary folks. That is the issue. This election is not Hillary v Trump. Trump has exposed that the Big Government Party of all factions, would rather have one their own in power than anyone who would threaten their power. This is the reason you see all those in power going against Trump. It has nothing to do with Trump, and everything to do with keeping the power the establishment has seized. These attacks on Trump are textbook Red Herrings.
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  • Posted by Rex_Little 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This!! No matter which party controls Congress, Trump will never have majority support. If Hillary gets a Democratic Congress, it's gonna be FDR, LBJ and Dubya all over again.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 2 months ago
    Trump may be unprincipled, but his opponent does have principles. Illustrated by her past actions, her principles are so evil, the an unprincipled person looks saintly by comparison.
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    Posted by wmiranda 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We've already seen self interest and reckless carelessness with Hillary. We already have a narcissist in office. What would be Trump's self interest then? Obviously he doesn't need the money. He's not even going to get paid while in office. He's doesn't need new business connections to grow Trump Enterprises which he'll detach himself from while in office. He doesn't need recognition or more self promoting as we all have seen. Someone who doesn't want to get America in wars we don't belong in or start wars we won't finish.
    So, for the pragmatic me, is to go with the non-politician that's sick and tired of business as usual in D.C., like me, that says he will go after corruption, improve trade to benefit America, bring back jobs others have exported, make our military strong in a dangerous world, leave state level decisions at state level where they belong and keep America's sovereignty, among other things. Some of the things may have been said by other career politicians, but I believe them like I believe CNN is not for Hillary. If he does half of what he promised and how he promised. I'll be a happy camper.
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