Yes, the Egyptians refer to the God of Knowledge as Thoth, and the character is traceable to several religions. Religion is often used to both control and express specific dogma through oral tradition. Graham makes the point what better way to pass on specific knowledge than that? He also proposes the ancients came to various countries post catastrophe to bring their knowledge to all man. They then were viewed as gods. That same thing has happened today. So most religion may actually be based on that.

I've heard many references to this work and I believe it's on my wish list at amazon. Thanks

PS...interesting to note, this is what the ancients referred to as living among the Gods on earth...but that changed with our excruciatingly slow journey into conscious thought. Many get hung up on this because the language and expressions never changed.

Read Fingerprints of thee Gods, and Magicians of the Gods and it will provide the chain of data and logic. It is pretty comprehensive and Graham Hancock is pretty good at not letting his theory bend the facts. He admits when there are disparities and he also will quote the ones that correlate. Dobrien introduced me to him, and he has been working on it for 30 years or so. But he talks about the scablands and the guy who first called for a catastrophic flood , who was ridiculed for the idea until he had a truckload of naysayers go out there, and they telegraphed him "we are all catastrophists" yet he was still fought. Mainly because he could not provide the source, as no one had discovered the proof of an impact in 10,800 BC. He also has some very interesting interpretations of many megalithic sites around the world. All he is saying is it seems clear there was an advanced civilization around at 10-12000 BC, yet they apparently had a totally different basis of advanced tech, as they could not detect or deflect the impacter. But he does theorize that the eastern Pacific would have been exposed back then when the ocean was 300 feet lower, which also explains the site off Okinawa, that science poos on because it is underwater. Well, back then, it wasn't.

Which would be more accurate...the Egyptians didn't build the pyramids...they were there when they settled there...The guy that wrote "Forgotten Civilization" found that the P's and the Sphinx showed water erosion...like they'd been under water, exposed to rain and weathering.
My guess is they were built by the Nephilim or their descendants...way before the Egyptians came to be.

Pointing out, repeatedly even, that being a Deist is irrational is not verbal abuse or even rude or mean. It is merely pointing out reality. I've stayed much more kind than Ayn Rand herself was regarding Deists and Religionists.

Tolerance is completely incompatible with Objectivism. Only truth is compatible, and while some people may have different opinions on the truth, only one can be correct. I think you are confusing Objectivism with Libertarianism.
I challenge you to find any "verbal abuse" I have dished out. Microaggressions are not abuse.

Ad hominem.
But it was meant to point out that once you have a wider view of facts, the mysticism naturally sloughs away. I wasn't dismissing your argument because of that, I was making a point. If you didn't get it that's likely because I wasn't being very clear. (I posted it around 2-3am I think)

Actually it is intended for rock that has been buried from sunlight, before re-exposed. re-exposure resets the clock apparently. It has been used in some of the Egyptian relics and reported dates 1-2 thousand years older than everyone is comfortable with.

Thank you, now I understand the term and it's use.

"Great flood myths are far more likely to be over dramatizations of a local people" your evidence please.
How do you know they were ignorant?

That's interesting...what about cloudy days or stone that's buried. I am with you, we'll come up with something that's more dependable.

Nothing can bee 100% fact without direct observation, so no, we will never know the exact truth. But we can make some pretty good premises based on data...zThe future may make something better, there is even a system now that measures the amount of light stored in stone to date, Graham did not seem to give many coherent samples and did acknowledge it is in it's infancy, even when they support his hypothesis.

Hmm, I do not understand the term deists in this case, can you please explain? Thanks.

Please read the comments .Religion has nothing to do with this discussion.

Laughing...the one thing no one seems to take notice of is Carbon 14 dating. Back some years now it was discovered that radio active decay has sped up...pointing to the supposition that maybe it's not a constant and never has been.

I also have thought that counting sedimentary layers is not accurate either...think about it, all sedimentary like events are not always world wide, some if not most are regional. Make sense?

Not to mention that calendars have changed often, days and months in a year have changed between civilizations to further confound things.
I still hold that perhaps the Mayan Calendars are among the most accurate.
Also...there was some article recently I read where scientist admit that the earths rotation was faster a few billion years ago and began slowing ever since...makes perfect sense to me. And another anomaly was noticed...Venus's rotation has sped Up!...go figure...maybe we weren't supposed to keep track of time passage...seems we suck at it.
Still laughing...I enjoy exploring all the different theories but do you think we'll Ever figure it out?

I do not see you as promoting any agenda. My point was the "banish" part seems a bit strong. But I am not committed to any position (except politicians will do us no favors), I will change my position when presented strong logic and facts (again something you do not get from politicians or government). So I am most interested in hearing your thoughts. Thank You.

Agreed. The ignorance of data driven decisions and the manipulation of our own futures is amazing. They know no limits apparently.

Oh, ok, sorry. I do find the logic compelling that fits several disparate facts, so it is something of great interest. The dating thing seems to handicap a lot of science and history, seems a lot of archeologists got issued crystal balls with their degrees.

I am aware of this Nick...just pointing out other important thoughts on the subject.
I find it interesting that there are several different dates associated with these know events.
My thoughts are that our time line and ways of determining them are off a bit, to say the least.

The sun cycles and sunspot theory has recently been statistically proven by, believe it or not, actuaries, which by nature, are not political and only biased by math. They even found a few more cycles we were not aware of.
Western civilizations problem has been the ignoring of natural cycles.

By ignoring the cycles, the progressives and other non-conscious entities can now blame You. Just like our non-conscious biblical ancestors blamed some entity for the punishment, (see the connection?)...either way, Conscious Mankind gets the short end of the stick.

We have had a couple posts about that when they first announced that it was actually getting colder, and we had some discussion and debate as to whether the data was accurate or not. It doesn't take an impact to make it cold, it can also just be a little less warm. There was also some discussion as to the paucity of sunspots being an indicator as well.