If the guy said he had the parking garage rigged to explode, I suppose that is an immediate threat. They had to neutralize him so 1) he couldn't detonate it, 2) they could sweep the garage for bombs. If a sniper can't see him, and you can't move officers in to take him out a point blank range, and there's a threat to the public if blows the parking garage up - what options remain? Not an easy call - and I believe those police officers did not make that decision in haste.
I wonder why the police didn't take the tried and true method of simply waiting him out? He had no hostages and no escape route. Was it entirely necessary to blow him to kingdom come?
From what I've been reading on the Web...some are already suggesting that they would not have blown up a white guy. This could really backfire.
Well, technology marches on... Does anyone remember the name "Alex Murphy?" (Robocop). The biggest leap of logic (in my mind) in this movie was the necessity to implant a human brain inside the robot, as machine intelligence "was not quite there yet" (as the demo in the OCP board room demonstrated, "Lay down your weapon, you have 20 seconds to comply! You now have 10 seconds to comply..." (so the assistant lays down the weapon, but the robot didn't notice...) " you now have 5 seconds to comply..." Oops, technical glitch! I thought robot "tele-presence" (virtual reality remote operation) would be a lower-tech and easier to implement approach, but of course it wouldn't have made as dramatic of a movie. Oh well. In the future, a "Second Amendment" approach to fighting tyranny will be a lot harder when the government shock troops do not bleed...
A flash grenade or something similar would have required a cop to get within the area to deploy it. Further, this guy said he had bombs rigged up around the parking garage - so, a cop couldn't get near him to deploy such measures. They probably couldn't rig the robot to deliver it at that time. I agree with your concern, but, the time table and situation dictated the response. Next time, they'll probably have robots capable of delivering flash grenades. Regardless, it is very difficult for us to play Monday morning quarterback.
Military snipers rarely do, however it has been done to sometimes discourage young children from participating in activities that could get them harmed, police often do when it is a viable option. I have seen them shoot a gun from a man's hand when he was alone, if he were holding a hostage it could easily change the dynamics and the decision. If you don't understand debilitating; to impair the strength of, enfeeble, weaken
Just being in the same cabin with Clinton and Lynch was probably enough to put him over the edge. Al this is fiction on my part, “Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.”
The Dallas police violated Asimov's First Law of Robotics. Of course, the Feds have been doing this via drones for quite some time now. For the record, $5Au takes no position on this, but merely points it out.
I agree. The right to self-defense is inviolate, an individual right, and that includes a policeman or group of policemen in harms way.. If this guy came to my house, armed and ready to kill "white families" in general, and I blew him away to protect myself and them, I don't think anyone would be saying that I as a private citizen (or even if I were an off-duty cop) violated his "due process". Yes, the police are an arm of the government, and should be held to a higher standard, but not a "suicide pact" standard. In a shootout self-defense in any form is the only moral response. Also, according to reports this man was trained and highly mobile. Although seemingly trapped, what if he had gotten away to kill further? IF the police had gunned down the protester who immediately turned over his legally carried rifle to a policeman, THAT would be an unacceptable overreaction.
Let's see at 2.2 pounds about five cases ...no better make sure maybe ten cases would do it. Vaporize. Be easier to set off one stick of dynamite and a smoke bomb and bribe the Medical Examiner.
I have yet to meet a reporter that understands such things. It's the difference between wanting to inform and wanting to influence. Same as the difference between a journalist and a propagandist.
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Good Point. I still laugh about taking an unaltered POS Carcano and firing that fast and that accurately when the shooter barefly qualified. FYI a Marksman as USMC trained Oswald in fact was is the lowest level of qualification.Nor did Oswald have the gunsmithing tools and experience nor the twenty years it took one of our illustrious LEA's using twenty years of practice to get off three rounds in that time frame. Never mind hit the target.
Ignoring any rights of the alleged shooter, I keep thinking it's better intelligence to be able to talk to the perp. I keep thinking about Lee Harvey Oswald when police kill the perp preventing any interrogation. I realize sometimes it could be suicide by cop, too.
If a sniper can't see him, and you can't move officers in to take him out a point blank range, and there's a threat to the public if blows the parking garage up - what options remain?
Not an easy call - and I believe those police officers did not make that decision in haste.
From what I've been reading on the Web...some are already suggesting that they would not have blown up a white guy. This could really backfire.
Further, this guy said he had bombs rigged up around the parking garage - so, a cop couldn't get near him to deploy such measures.
They probably couldn't rig the robot to deliver it at that time.
I agree with your concern, but, the time table and situation dictated the response.
Next time, they'll probably have robots capable of delivering flash grenades.
Regardless, it is very difficult for us to play Monday morning quarterback.
With a 10 meter sloop
You can slip the loop
Off your head and life
Sure bring the wife
Bring the GF too
One on watch
Two below
Two Below? Say
What's the game?
Navigation of course
And plotting is needed
For a perfect rhumb line.
And there is the tacking diagram to prove it.
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